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With the thousands of posts you make here on TS Perspective, you are the one who actually takes things to an obscene level so it is more than a little hypocritical of you to judge anyone here for the amount of support they give their club. Anyone who joins a competing club will have reasons why they chose their club and not the others. The underlying biases should be a given. Most of us recognize the biases and just filter the content accordingly then move on.

I have tracked your little disagreement for years now and must say that you are the one who has actually focused the discussion on to the specific clubs. Say what you may about him but BTDT has always argued about paths in more general terms and you have always turned it back to the local representatives on those paths. Just look at your post above as a perfect example, you framed the issue specifically as an NEFC vs Stars/Scorpions thing and that completely ignores that MPS, Aztec, and Seacoast are on the same path as NEFC. You never seem to recognize that there are other clubs just as much involved in the discussion as NEFC. The fact of the matter is there are actually more of us out here on the same path as NEFC than on the one with the Stars/Scorpions so you really misjudge your audience quite a bit of the time.

The way I have always read your posts, the distortions you apparently are so incensed about basically emanate from differing points of view over how much credit the clubs should get for developing players. You have always argued that the Stars and Scorpions deserve a whole lot of credit for their past player's success and his position that the environment doesn't matter much is really what seems to get you worked up. You basically say that above. You feel he distorts their record of accomplishment when the way I read things is really he just ignores it as inconsequential because he doesn't share your view over the cause and effect. No need to go back and look at old posts. Your whole vindictive argument basically grows out of this disconnect and all of the back and forth that you feel is so disrespectful to those clubs boils down to nothing more than a philosophical disagreement over who deserves the credit. That is hardly the clandestine thing you have it built up into in your mind.

The reality is for what ever reason you have argued extensively in favor of the Stars and Scorpions. You voluntarily took on the role as their champion and have been quite prolific in presenting their case for them. The truth of the matter is that a competing club now is achieving the same sort of results that you, yourself have argued needs to be respected. The fact that you refuse to give that club that same respect speaks a whole lot about the validity of your argument and your underlying motivation for making it. You could have simply written a congratulatory note about the kids and club, yet you chose to go off on yet another rant perpetuating your mythical battle. The realty that it is a one sided battle is becoming more and more evident as the evidence mounts showing just how out of touch with reality your opinions have been. The truth is the environment is very different from what you understand it to be so when other posters disagree with you it is not a malicious attack on the clubs, it is actually a discussion dissecting the talking points you keep throwing out to support their case. At this point the only thing fueling your little crusade is your own inability to accept differing opinions about those talking points. The fact that you make all of this so personal speaks more about you than anyone else here.

btdt, your a liar. That's the easiest way to answer what you wrote. To suggest that anyone other than you has tried to manipulate and steer impressions of the clubs in question is an outright lie. You have staked your entire public reputation on this battle, and the proof is in 4-5 years worth of your obsession. Let's start with why it is you who is writing the post above.

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And btw, you just helped prove on the NESCAC thread that my thing with you is not about the ECNL clubs at all. Is Jeremy Lin still a starter in the NBA? Have you seen his financial portfolio?

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And it's "clandestine" as you suggest when you have different rules of assessment for different clubs (i.e. NO credit if Stars or Scorps and FULL credit if NEFC). Yiou repeatedly lie about how many Stars people post and you do that just so you can hammer them some more. The issue is why you go way, way out of your way to attack them constantly. What you do is not even close to how you described what you do above. And what's the real proof of your agenda? That you're still hear, writing 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 paragraph posts every single day.

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I can read past six or seven lines. How do you guys have the energy to keep this up....this is the same argument 6 years in a row.... Just meet for a beer and have it out already.

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I can read past six or seven lines. How do you guys have the energy to keep this up....this is the same argument 6 years in a row.... Just meet for a beer and have it out already.

*meant CAN'T

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btdt, your a liar. That's the easiest way to answer what you wrote. To suggest that anyone other than you has tried to manipulate and steer impressions of the clubs in question is an outright lie. You have staked your entire public reputation on this battle, and the proof is in 4-5 years worth of your obsession. Let's start with why it is you who is writing the post above.

The post jibes with my historical reading of things. Wonder how many posts we will get firing back at me for saying so.

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Perspective has signed 192 post in the last 28 days. Lord knows how many he hasn't signed because it is also clear he is posting anonymously now. The 192 posts puts him on a pace to write well over 2500 posts this year. That would put his rate of posting well in excess of just about every poster on this forum. There is no way he can frame his participation on TS as casual nor should he criticize anyone for their level of participation.

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btdt, your a liar. That's the easiest way to answer what you wrote. To suggest that anyone other than you has tried to manipulate and steer impressions of the clubs in question is an outright lie. You have staked your entire public reputation on this battle, and the proof is in 4-5 years worth of your obsession. Let's start with why it is you who is writing the post above.

And here we go again with the deflections, which is becoming a common trait of yours.

I am NOT BTDT, but I am so sick of your weak, tired argument. Once more, you go on the attack, when there many things written about you in the above post that would appear to be valid, but yet, as you have done umpteen times, you ignore these questions and go off on a rant about BTDT. You really are nowhere as smart as you think you are, and you continuously embarrass yourself. I bet your co-workers think you're a complete idiot. You add very little substance to any discussion, because you turn it into your blind vendetta against a guy who has his beliefs, much like you have your own. Please do me a favor and answer the questions posed in the above post. If not, please disappear for a few weeks and allow us to have decent discussions.

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btdt, your a liar. That's the easiest way to answer what you wrote. To suggest that anyone other than you has tried to manipulate and steer impressions of the clubs in question is an outright lie. You have staked your entire public reputation on this battle, and the proof is in 4-5 years worth of your obsession. Let's start with why it is you who is writing the post above.

Perspective can go for days talking about not getting his questions answered then he absolutely refuses to acknowledge any answers that do come in. The bottom line is what he sees as lying others see as simply disagreeing. His view of obsession is also pretty warped considering his fairly extreme habits. Those being what they may, what is more obsessive, asking the same questions several thousand times or answering?

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btdt, your a liar. That's the easiest way to answer what you wrote. To suggest that anyone other than you has tried to manipulate and steer impressions of the clubs in question is an outright lie. You have staked your entire public reputation on this battle, and the proof is in 4-5 years worth of your obsession. Let's start with why it is you who is writing the post above.

What is wrong in the post? You chimed in the other day claiming that someone was setting up the discussion in this thread to champion their club and criticized for doing that. Did you not?

You have to admit that you have been very vocal here in your protection of the Stars and Scorpions and a major portion of why you do that is because you don't feel that BTDT gives them enough respect for their record of accomplishment. Isn't that what you just wrote?

Why is it ok for you to make several thousand posts supporting the Stars/Scorpions but not ok for anyone else to support their club in the same way?

Why should the Stars/Scorpions get so much respect but yet when other clubs generate the same sort of results nobody can talk about their accomplishments?

This all shows a little of your duplicity in action. Given your extreme stance on things it is a little hypocritical don't you think? Why is it now wrong for others to call you on the carpet for it?

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Perspective has signed 192 post in the last 28 days. Lord knows how many he hasn't signed because it is also clear he is posting anonymously now. The 192 posts puts him on a pace to write well over 2500 posts this year. That would put his rate of posting well in excess of just about every poster on this forum. There is no way he can frame his participation on TS as casual nor should he criticize anyone for their level of participation.

Here we go. On cue, we get the how many times I am posting argument. At least i am signing in and I am not posting anonymously. If the other person was signing in you would see that he matches or exceeds any of my totals, but only for much longer.

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And here we go again with the deflections, which is becoming a common trait of yours.

I am NOT BTDT, but I am so sick of your weak, tired argument. Once more, you go on the attack, when there many things written about you in the above post that would appear to be valid, but yet, as you have done umpteen times, you ignore these questions and go off on a rant about BTDT. You really are nowhere as smart as you think you are, and you continuously embarrass yourself. I bet your co-workers think you're a complete idiot. You add very little substance to any discussion, because you turn it into your blind vendetta against a guy who has his beliefs, much like you have your own. Please do me a favor and answer the questions posed in the above post. If not, please disappear for a few weeks and allow us to have decent discussions.

I am so sick and tired of the weak argument that I am keeping anyone from having a discussion. Discuss away. The truth is that very few of you have anything to say unless it is to defend and protect your guru.

What questions in the above post? Tell me what they are and I'll answer.

btdt can't have it both way (or I guess in his mind he can). He keeps arguing that I am helping his cause and hurting the ECNL clubs by adding to attention to them that he initiates. So why complain?

I have no interest in the ECNL clubs. And I have tipped my cap plenty of times to the other club and endorsed that as a "path." How many times is that going to be ignored like that never happened. My interest is btdt's narcissism and duplicity and needless agenda, and sometimes the ECNL overlaps with that because he is obsessed with some injury he won't admit and clarify. I called him out on the exact same issues that he exhibits long ago on other topics as already noted.

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What is wrong in the post? You chimed in the other day claiming that someone was setting up the discussion in this thread to champion their club and criticized for doing that. Did you not?

You have to admit that you have been very vocal here in your protection of the Stars and Scorpions and a major portion of why you do that is because you don't feel that BTDT gives them enough respect for their record of accomplishment. Isn't that what you just wrote?

Why is it ok for you to make several thousand posts supporting the Stars/Scorpions but not ok for anyone else to support their club in the same way?

Why should the Stars/Scorpions get so much respect but yet when other clubs generate the same sort of results nobody can talk about their accomplishments?

This all shows a little of your duplicity in action. Given your extreme stance on things it is a little hypocritical don't you think? Why is it now wrong for others to call you on the carpet for it?

It's not that he doesn't give them respect. It that you go out of your way to try and destroy them. You are obsessed with them.

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BTW, I keep hearing over and over about MY extreme views? Which are? Last I checked I haven't expressed or endorsed any extreme views. In fact, if you look at the responses to all of my posts that have nothing to do with btdt a common reply is that I consistently show balance and "perspective."