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    #61
    19-0

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I know him, and think (or thought) he was a great coach - but running up a score to 19 speaks for itself, its a question of spin. Maybe he'll grow out of it - still young.
    I have been around the game for a long time and I'm currently coaching U13G. This score is a disgrace to youth sports anywhere. The coach,club and parents should be embarrassed!!! How do you shake hands with kids and coaches after you've done everything in your power to humiliate them? STOP SCORING!!!

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      #62
      Sfjt3n

      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I don't think you've ever seen quite the same disparity in scores in the past that you are seeing today. IMO 3 things are causing the problem. The first is that teams are playing small sided at U11 and small sided games are basically designed for lots of scoring. 2. You've got more kids playing because you've got more teams playing since it is small sided, so disparity between teams is going to be more obvious unless clubs attempt to field balanced teams within this age group. How many are? My bet not many. And 3, the top clubs are fielding teams long before U11, so if you are a club that has not, your up against some teams and players that already have several years club experience under their belt.
      Good points here. The small-sided game does lead to more scoring which is like throwing gasoline on the fire associated with the proliferation of teams in the younger age groups. Let's face it, more teams means more players which means more money for the club. That's not to say that they build more teams purely from that perspective. Those teams also tend to be the primary feeder for an A team. The other point mentioned here is a good one. The better clubs are grooming children in the 7 - 9 year old range for future placement on their U-10 teams. For example, Liverpool has the Scalawags and the Hamlets have the Wanderers. I'm sure the Stars, NEFCs, Western Uniteds, etc. have similar options for young children. So when these kids reach U-9 or U-10, they are often far more skilled than the competition.

      Still, all in all, MAPLE could take a huge step toward correcting this by simply asking the clubs identify their A teams, B teams etc. and then grouping them appropriately. Would their still be blowouts? Yes, but there'd be fewer and honestly, at U-11, no one benefits from a 19-0 "victory."

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        #63
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        You can breath one sigh of relief. The BU11 Bolts will no longer be taking up a spot in Blue. That's one less strong team to be accused of misconduct.
        I know them well. Both Bolts U11 coaches would never run up the score. BY 5-0 they would back off and try other things.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I know them well. Both Bolts U11 coaches would never run up the score. BY 5-0 they would back off and try other things.
          Totally agree, but when it comes to the Bolts on these boards, even at 5-0 they would be accused of misconduct. Kind of nice that they are now out of the crossfire.

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            #65
            FC Blazers 19 - 0

            If I were the Abbey Villa coach I would have pulled my team off the field and forfeited. The score would then have been 3-0 and FCB would only have a GD of 3 instead of 6. That way FCB also gets slapped in the face.

            Just me

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              #66
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              If I were the Abbey Villa coach I would have pulled my team off the field and forfeited. The score would then have been 3-0 and FCB would only have a GD of 3 instead of 6. That way FCB also gets slapped in the face.
              And what lesson does that teach the AV players ? That "slapping your opponent in the face" is the goal of the competition ?

              Who cares about GD at U11 ? Who cares about wins and losses ?

              Only coaches and parents whose egos get in the way of whats important in childhood sports. And don't start with any crap about developing high level soccer players. Go look at the U11 development in ANY other country whose national team is better than ours. None of them feature coaches who look to run up the score by 19 goals or, contrarily, look to "slap their opponent" in the face.

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                #67
                Say what you want about JD (Stars) and DC (Blazers)- both ONLY care about results which is why JD has brought Stars to one of the top rated girls soccer clubs in the country and DC and FO are trying to copy that with the boys- Every other team and kid ruthlessly recruited or cut or relegated be damned!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Say what you want about JD (Stars) and DC (Blazers)- both ONLY care about results which is why JD has brought Stars to one of the top rated girls soccer clubs in the country and DC and FO are trying to copy that with the boys- Every other team and kid ruthlessly recruited or cut or relegated be damned!
                  Don't know about Blazers but you are right about Stars

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                    #69
                    Drinking the kool-aid

                    Stars will catch some karma in time... For every cut player, or team that they crush, numbers will work against them in time.. They are not the only game.. game.. game..

                    With 2nd and 3rd teams...... to many parents 'Drinking the Kool-Aid' will turn the club into just another cult disaster.. Parents beware...

                    NEVER FORGET Jonestown
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Don't know about Blazers but you are right about Stars
                      Blazers MO - don't call the kids if they are getting bumped from the team.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Blazers MO - don't call the kids if they are getting bumped from the team.
                        DC's arrogance and 'must win at all costs' attitude will catch up to him sooner or later. Word travels pretty quick and it's not long before a coach's reputation is established It doesn't matter how good a practice coach he is.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          DC's arrogance and 'must win at all costs' attitude will catch up to him sooner or later. Word travels pretty quick and it's not long before a coach's reputation is established It doesn't matter how good a practice coach he is.
                          In the wide world of youth sports, as long as he's winning, people will come. Until someone with just as winning a record shows up closer to the players' homes, he won't have to worry about not drawing good players that will help his teams win games. Running up scores will never be the reason players don't show up to play for a coach. Whether right or wrong, that is a fact of life in youth sports, so you'd better prepare yourself for it and if you want to see it change, get your kid's teams and their coaches to better themselves so coaches like this can't run up the score. As Dr. Phil says, you can't control what others do, only what YOU do.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            In the wide world of youth sports, as long as he's winning, people will come. Until someone with just as winning a record shows up closer to the players' homes, he won't have to worry about not drawing good players that will help his teams win games. Running up scores will never be the reason players don't show up to play for a coach. Whether right or wrong, that is a fact of life in youth sports, so you'd better prepare yourself for it and if you want to see it change, get your kid's teams and their coaches to better themselves so coaches like this can't run up the score. As Dr. Phil says, you can't control what others do, only what YOU do.
                            Go back and re-read previous posts. Running up scores is just the TIP of the iceberg.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Go back and re-read previous posts. Running up scores is just the TIP of the iceberg.
                              I stand by what I said. You have no control on what others choose to do, only what you choose to do.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                DC's arrogance and 'must win at all costs' attitude will catch up to him sooner or later. Word travels pretty quick and it's not long before a coach's reputation is established It doesn't matter how good a practice coach he is.

                                I think you overestimate the knowledge of the average parent. When they investigate clubs, they will first see whether or not the club has a favorable W/L record, rankings,what leagues they play in, and what tournaments they go to. Although I feel that I have greater appreciation and insight, I would prefer my child to play in the first division, play against competitive clubs etc etc.
                                Ideally, after you have selected a few clubs to consider, you will investigate further and learn of the clubs reputation, development strategies, and how they treat the players...who are still children.
                                Regardless, you will NEVER get away from the W/L record....

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