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Self-righteous drivel.

It's obvious that in the quoted post the mod was coaching an 11v11 game. In the old 11v11 U11 games, scores of 10 plus goals were rare. But now that U11 is playing 8v8, the game has changed. The good players are just too close to the goal.

I would say the JD coached U11 girls team could beat the FH team 20-0 minimum. So it is apparent to me that they let up on the gas in some manner, whether it was positionally or some other way.

The mod's team had a 5 goal lead in an 11v11 game. That's gotta be equivalent to a 10 goal lead in an 8v8 game.

Shame on you mod for running up the score.

The rest of you are completely in the dark. Get off your soapboxes and enjoy the fact that the kids are young.

drivel by any other name is still drivel. after all poster, every young kid deserves a good beat down, right?

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Repect is a subjective thing. As a player I would rather beaten by 0-10 than being played around by the other team playing only with weaker foot. I believe there are many people think if you are not playing your opponent seriously you are not paying proper respect.

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Saturday after her game getting beat 8-1 My daughter said "I'm tired of losing" Sat. nite she's out working with the ball... Sun. she goes for her first unprompted, uncoached fitness run and core workout. Some good can come from getting beat bad consistently.

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Saturday after her game getting beat 8-1 My daughter said "I'm tired of losing" Sat. nite she's out working with the ball... Sun. she goes for her first unprompted, uncoached fitness run and core workout. Some good can come from getting beat bad consistently.

You sound like you have a great kid and I mean that most sincerely. I hope the other 17 kids on her team have the same reaction.

I don’t think that 16-0 a beating shows that the coach has any respect for anybody or has a care for anyone but himself and his ego. Had I been a parent on the sideline and I watched my kid's team put a beating on another team like that, I would be questioning my choice to entrust my child to that guy. How long do you think it will be before he turns on the kids who play for him because of a mistake or mental lapse that he/she makes?

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I have really been trying to avoid commenting on this but I just can't walk away from this one.

Yes, I have been on both sides of this situation.

Just recently in a game I looked at the other team warming up and knew right away it was going to be a wipe out. I had my goalie start as a striker and took my best players and had them rotate in goal. And my goalie was NOT a field player, believe me. By the 2nd half I was down to 9 players (one of which was this goalie) and we had a 5-0 lead. My players were instructed do keep playing the way they would normally (So as not to gain bad habits) and if they had an goal scoring opportunity to shoot wide. My rational is if you are good enough to hit the net..You are good enough to miss it to. And yes, my backs played up, strikers had time as defenders, etc. The final score was 6-2 and we missed the net a solid 1/2 dozen times in the 2nd H. My kids could not wait to have the game end, it was no fun per se but they used it as time to work on skills, moves and positional play they would not have otherwise done in a more competitive games. I had both the head and assn coach come over to my players and thank them for showing class and restraint along with a few of the parents of the other team who spoke to me directly. As I have done earlier when I found myself on the other side of a few of these games and it was clear the other team/coach was holding his players back.

There are numerous issues here and in no particular order

1) Competitive sports and any level, in particular for pre-teens should INCLUDE teaching RESPECT (for yourself, your opponent, the referee and the game itself) and Sportmanship. If you fail to do so you have not done your job ... and doing so is not in conflict with teaching skills or competitive drive. The end result of not doing this is creating the shallow, self centered, over pampered, egotistical and obnoxious professional athletes we see today that have abundant natural athletic gifts and skill but the social acumen of a doorstop. Think Pittsburgh's quarterback.... Athletics is a real chance to teach class and was certainly an opportunity missed here.

2) Arrogance. Both these coaches and others roasted here in previous threads for running up the score (BB) usually have little fear of the table being turned on them. Does anyone really think we will see the day when any FH team will give a JD coached Stars team a 16-0 beat down. Not real likely in the near future. But pride do cometh before the fall. For every self centered little teenage Mia Monster you attract by this win you will lose the excellent and skill player of character and leadership that will look (or who's family will direct them) elsewhere ... and please do not tell me this doesn't happen. There is a reason that last years Stars U-13G State Cup champion team was the Athletics and NOT the hyped United team and it was not a coincidence, it was the 2nd year in a row.

3) Did the kids enjoy this...We can be sure the FH team was not having fun but unless the entire Stars team was a group of little monsters I am pretty sure they were not really enjoying it either. Watch the kids body language. When they stop celebrating goals as a team the fun is gone and when they are casual to the point of embarrassed when they score the kids GET IT ... even if the adult instructors do not. But being kids, they will do as they are told and being on an elite team they will do WHAT THEY ARE TOLD so as not to lose their slot. But I doubt any of the kids were enjoying this game past the first 20 minutes and if they were mores the pity.

4) This was NOT the FH teams choice. In the Fall of U-11 MAPLE randomly places teams in divisions with some geographic considerations. That there should be a better system is certainly debatable but to state that this team "Got what it asked for" is misinformed. This does start to sort itself out as seasons provide history and records past U-11 fall and the competition becomes more even. I doubt very highly that the difference between a 5-0 or 6-0 win and a 16-0 win will make any difference in the eventual placement of JD's team in MAPLE Blue in the Spring. There was no reason to do this other than "they could"

5) If this was a U-15 and older game..well so be it. They are then young adults and have chosen their path and its consequences and it is the time to start learning some of the adult lessons you will need to know when you are out in the world and on your own. At 10 years old however, we should be encouraging young people to stay active and have a love of the game this does nothing to help keep these kids on the pitch and out of trouble later down the road. For those applauding these smack downs, let me say it again...THEY ARE 10 YEARS OLD. We lament that in this day and age our kids are "growing up to soon" and then we applaud the adult like lesson that "life is hard" and unless you are good enough "it sucks to be you"....Really, is this the lessons you want YOUR 10 YEAR OLD taught. If so, for the love of god please stop breeding, the world has seen enough monsters like your children will become.

I review situations like this with my players and parents right at the beginning of the season, why we will not continue pound on another team when the game is clearly not a match of equals. I make it very clear that I understand the incredible influence a coach has on young people and how I take very seriously not just teaching soccer but to be another appropriate role model for the children entrusted to me each week. As coaches we are and should be more than just instructors and there is a real disconnect if these adults fail to see and take responsibility for the roles they have chosen for themselves.

In the end, it is called SPORTMANSHIP for a reason and that is because it can and should be taught within the parameters of sporting activities.

I know there are lots (sorry, but WAY to many) people here who disagree with me, but this weekend and every weekend we are tested as adults and role models to very impressionable (10 YEAR OLD) young children. And last weekend these coaches failed miserably to meet even the lowest standards of dignity or restraint.

They may be able to teach skills and tactics, but in my opinion they need a refresher course in moral and honorable behavior before they hit the pitch again with young children.

Lots of great points here but I did not see the league and MYSA held accountable here. They have allowed the league to keep expanding and expanding to the point that these clubs take your money, yet most of these kids are outclassed and can not compete and should not be playing in "PREMIER" league. Let's call MAPLE for what it is. A glorified town league. Nothing more, nothing less.

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JD under 10 team last year beat up many teams by at least 10 goals. Let's all BOW down and kiss his feet his is the MASTER of his own DOMAIN....

You the MAN JD, your teams are OMG good, you really are full of it

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Unfortunately I wasn't able to attend this game but we knew that the score wasn't going to be very good for a brand new team and the kids understood to take it as a learning experience and to know where they need to get to. My daughter wasn't so much concerned about the score (she was down about it but not to the point of tears) but she was more bothered by the Stars' parents comments as they were walking off of the field calling the FH team a bunch of "toddlers" and other names and directing it at the kids. After hearing that I was more disappointed in the Stars' parents for the example that they were setting than anything else.

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My understanding is 8 girls from STARS team go to school with the girls from FH 'B' team.. How was school today for your STAR Prima-donna's ?

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I really believe in seeding the teams as young as U-10 but the leagues preach "development, development, development.'

We live in VA and our league (WAGS) does not seed until U12. Last Spring, my daughter's team got placed in a very weak division. We knew the other teams were not strong and petitioned the league to be placed in another division to no avail. WAGS actually was insulted that we wanted to be "so competitive at such a young age (U11)." Her team won every game 7-0. The scores could have been 16-0, that's how one sided the games were. It was the most miserable season for all involved, it's very hard as a parent to stand near the other team's parents and watch their faces, to stop applauding after the 3rd goal, etc. We had team meetings where we argued whether it is more degrading to the other team to score every chance you have or play keep away...

Our coach used various tactics to not make the games so lopsided, many have already been mentioned. However, the lack of competition really hurt us come tournament time as we had not been challenged and our girls did not really work on effective formations that we needed to perfect before playing in the premier brackets.

It was a very frustrating season and we felt punished for something that was not our fault.

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I cannot believe the number of people out there who can condone what this coach did. If anything, he only showed how poor a coach he really is if he cannot figure out a way to keep his team from running up the score like this. He obviously did not care or has no control over his team...both of which are poor attributes for such a highly touted coach as JD. Obviously he is either being vindictive to this other team for some personal reason, or he has totally lost his perspective on what youth sports are suppose to be developing as far as character and sportsmanship...shame on him either way. I only hope the parents and kids on this team can step back enough to realize that any coach who does this, should not be coaching their child. There is no excuse for this type of behavior in a youth league no matter what the level of play, and any decent coach out there knows this.

Forget it! We all know this coach doesn't develop players. The work has already been done by the time he gets them.

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JD under 10 team last year beat up many teams by at least 10 goals. Let's all BOW down and kiss his feet his is the MASTER of his own DOMAIN....

You the MAN JD, your teams are OMG good, you really are full of it

I once thought he was a good man and ran a good club but his true colors eventually came through. Clubs come and go and his will eventually.

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I really believe in seeding the teams as young as U-10 but the leagues preach "development, development, development.'

We live in VA and our league (WAGS) does not seed until U12. Last Spring, my daughter's team got placed in a very weak division. We knew the other teams were not strong and petitioned the league to be placed in another division to no avail. WAGS actually was insulted that we wanted to be "so competitive at such a young age (U11)." Her team won every game 7-0. The scores could have been 16-0, that's how one sided the games were. It was the most miserable season for all involved, it's very hard as a parent to stand near the other team's parents and watch their faces, to stop applauding after the 3rd goal, etc. We had team meetings where we argued whether it is more degrading to the other team to score every chance you have or play keep away...

Our coach used various tactics to not make the games so lopsided, many have already been mentioned. However, the lack of competition really hurt us come tournament time as we had not been challenged and our girls did not really work on effective formations that we needed to perfect before playing in the premier brackets.

It was a very frustrating season and we felt punished for something that was not our fault.

Then stop going to the games. Try letting your kid play an entire season with you sitting in your car. It will change your perspective. Nothing is more annoying than the (yawn) my kid's team is so wonderful posts.

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I agree with the moron. It aint all hugs and kisses sweetheart! Get better or get off the field!!

To so easily identify with a moron is to be one.
It ain't all testosterone and insecurity, bully! Get some scruples or get off the field.

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U13 Nominee:

Granite FC G 10
North Shore I 1

Has RG always been a jerk, or has he just perfected it over the last few seasons? Absolutely no class and his teams are mediocre.

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To so easily identify with a moron is to be one.
It ain't all testosterone and insecurity, bully! Get some scruples or get off the field.

I love this. Testosterone and insecurity is probably the cause of 90% of this nonsense. Maybe all the dads should sit in the car and the coaches should get one of the calmer moms to stay on the team sideline and listen to thier every word. Bet that would bring them out of thier testosterone fueled cloud. There is nothing like a witness.