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    What is the cost of MPS?

    Wondering what the cost of MPS since they are coming to florida. Also overall thoughts on the club.

    any info appreciated

    #2
    Here we go.

    This is not the place to find out. Go to their site or even better call them and ask questions.

    All you are going to get here, is Haters and Lovers. Bot of which have an agenda. All clubs have their strengths and weaknesses. You just need to check them out and see if it works for you. This forum will get out of hand, and while there will be some truths there will be some false allegations.

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      #3
      Plus, you can't really compare the two markets. It's likely to be what the local market will bear.

      I will say that here in MA, it works out about the same as the other clubs. MPS has a developmental focus, particularly at the younger ages. Not right for everyone; however, our experience has been positive.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Here we go.

        This is not the place to find out. Go to their site or even better call them and ask questions.

        All you are going to get here, is Haters and Lovers. Bot of which have an agenda. All clubs have their strengths and weaknesses. You just need to check them out and see if it works for you. This forum will get out of hand, and while there will be some truths there will be some false allegations.
        i understand that thier will be bashers and defenders but just wanted to get an idea about the club overall.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          i understand that thier will be bashers and defenders but just wanted to get an idea about the club overall.
          As the earlier poster said, you will find supporters and detractors of all clubs. Personally, I have found MPS to be a great club with great people.

          As far as costs are concerned, just be sure to do your homework. Regardless of what club you look at, you need to look at the costs and determine exactly what you are getting. How many practices, games, and tournaments are included? What about camps? Is that cost inlcuded in the overall fee? Don't just look at the fee charged by a club and compare it to the fee of another club without looking deeper into exactly what you get. Only then can you compare costs. And, above all else, look at the coaching.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            i understand that thier will be bashers and defenders but just wanted to get an idea about the club overall.
            MPS did a lot to improve youth soccer in Mass by challenging the status quo. They were promoting SSG through U12 long before it became fashionable.

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              #7
              NEP play

              We were out in Lancaster yesterday for MAPLE opening day and watched an MPS game while we waited to get on the field. It was quality soccer. Didn't look any different than a MAPLE game. It's always good to have options.

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                #8
                The cost?

                If it is only about winning, and it all about you, then only your dignity. If you are in it to have your child learn the game of soccer, then it is worth it. But don't have unrealistic expectations like full scholarships, etc. Its probably not going to happen.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                  As far as costs are concerned, just be sure to do your homework. Regardless of what club you look at, you need to look at the costs and determine exactly what you are getting. How many practices, games, and tournaments are included? What about camps? Is that cost inlcuded in the overall fee? Don't just look at the fee charged by a club and compare it to the fee of another club without looking deeper into exactly what you get. Only then can you compare costs. And, above all else, look at the coaching.
                  This is excellent advice for anyone looking at club soccer.

                  With respect to the MPS system, here are the plusses:

                  1. Excellent leadership at the top
                  2. Probably the most innovative club structure in the state with a true "pyramid" system and desire to create a better club league (NEP)
                  3. Consistent tactical approach across the club with age appropriate coaching
                  4. Pretty good premier level teams at the older ages, especially considering how "young" the club is.

                  Here are the negatives:

                  1. Its a business (not unlike other clubs, true). But because of this, they will take on anyone who will pay. And if you can't pay, its hard to get a scholarship

                  2. The problem with "taking on anyone" is that at the young age groups you get the whole spectrum of kids, with a whole spectrum of committment. This can resemble town soccer and can frustrate the higher level player.

                  3. They often rotate coaches, sometimes even the middle of the season. Their coaches are spread thin, to keep overhead down, and the don't make all the practices/games.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This is excellent advice for anyone looking at club soccer.

                    With respect to the MPS system, here are the plusses:

                    1. Excellent leadership at the top
                    2. Probably the most innovative club structure in the state with a true "pyramid" system and desire to create a better club league (NEP)
                    3. Consistent tactical approach across the club with age appropriate coaching
                    4. Pretty good premier level teams at the older ages, especially considering how "young" the club is.

                    Here are the negatives:

                    1. Its a business (not unlike other clubs, true). But because of this, they will take on anyone who will pay. And if you can't pay, its hard to get a scholarship

                    2. The problem with "taking on anyone" is that at the young age groups you get the whole spectrum of kids, with a whole spectrum of committment. This can resemble town soccer and can frustrate the higher level player.

                    3. They often rotate coaches, sometimes even the middle of the season. Their coaches are spread thin, to keep overhead down, and the don't make all the practices/games.
                    I dont think #1 on the negative list is entirely accurate. My kids MPS team had quite a few players come in and look to join but werent taken. They will be looked at thoroughly but its not a given.

                    We never had issues with #3 but have heard that some teams did have so thats partially true

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                      #11
                      I doubt it will happen the same way in Fla the way it did with Mass, but to counter the points above, MPS started out just half-assing it and after many different productions they have come up with a pretty good model. They hardly started with all these great goals in mind. They started out with Pro teams and clinic programs. They tore down the pro teams because the youth market was so positive, now the pro teams don't even exist any more. A lot of disingenuous marketing and programming early to build their brand.

                      As I said, now they are pretty good, but it's after years of trial and error, about ten years to be precise. While their structure might be innovative, it overwent overhauls a number of times, and their structure is far more about profit than player development.

                      To say they are close to other clubs around here is laughable. They are triple the fees of the vast majority of clubs, and about 100 times more expensive than the local mom and pops. I would say that comparing MPS to the top other clubs, the difference is about 1K to 1500 difference per year. For a lot of families that is significant.

                      You're also far better off around here getting cheap training early and then joining an MPS premier team (U13 and older). That is where their good coaches are and organization is most consistent. Their SOE program is appallingly staffed by their least experienced coaches and that is where all the scheduling problems/organizational inconsistencies, and most of the coaching changes happen. The Premier team experience often includes a strong coach and overall training environment, far better than most clubs offer, and comparable to the top other clubs.

                      As a close, I would say that 10 years after they started, you are far better off joining their programs than you were 10 years ago while they were still putting their ideas together, but that's the same anywhere, it's just a good word of warning for Florida.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                        To say they are close to other clubs around here is laughable. They are triple the fees of the vast majority of clubs, and about 100 times more expensive than the local mom and pops. I would say that comparing MPS to the top other clubs, the difference is about 1K to 1500 difference per year. For a lot of families that is significant.
                        Valid point but you need to look at the whole picture:

                        Add in the significant travel costs of the top Mass clubs (Stars and Scorpions) and MPS is usually well under so take that into consideration in FLA. Look at the travel that the top FLA teams do and be sure to factor that in.

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                          #13
                          The quote about fees is laughable and makes you sound like you have an agenda against the club. MPS Fees may be slightly higher than most (they are very close to the other top clubs). However what the poster does not state or even compare, is that MPS offeres more practices and games than other clubs in the region. Costs can only be compared when you compare two organizaions that offer the same product. The MPS fees include new uniform every season (quite a lot of uniform and potenitally too much), residential camp, indoor practices at great facilites, and the main reason why they are high two months more practices and games than most clubs.

                          MPS also provides an inner city program for free.

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