U12 Girls

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The five GU12 teams vying not to play in the round robin weekend shapes up (in no particular order) as follows:

EXPLOSION - Needs either a tie or a win in their last two games.

WESTERN - Needs either a tie or a win in their last two games.

STARS - Needs a win and a Scorpion loss or a win and a tie in their last two games.

FULLER - Needs to beat the Scorpions.

SCORPIONS - Needs to beat Fuller and have either Explosion lose their last two, Western lose their last two or Stars lose one of their last two games

Stars and Scorpions have the have the more difficult path to the playoffs.

SCORPIONS just need to beat Fuller regardless of what happens elsewhere, that would give them the head-to-head tie breaker.

It is conceivable that all 5 could end up with identical 5-2-1 records, then what? Goal Differential? Most likely Scorpions are out if that happens.

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This is my predition
WU V Explo tie
Wu v Stars tie
Scorp v Fuller Fuller win
Stars v Inter Stars win
Explo v Fuller Tie

That would mean it ends this way


WU 17 points
Explo 17 points
Stars 17 points
Fuller 17 points
Scorps 13 points

It would come down to goal difference, Stars have that right now but this weekend will be really interesting.

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what are the tie breakers'

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what are the tie breakers'

From the MAPLE web site:

Tie-Break Rules. Ties in the standings at the end of the season or at the end of round-robin play during any qualifying tournament will be resolved as follows:

First, on the basis of head-to-head play;

if still tied, on the basis of goal differential overall; provided that, in determining “goals for” for this calculation, a team will only be given credit for a maximum of six goals more than its opponent for any game;
if still tied, on the basis of fewest goals allowed overall;
if still tied, on the basis of FIFA rules for Kicks from the Penalty Mark, to be scheduled by the Commission.

Ties among more than two teams will be resolved according to the same rules, with the following modifications:

Head-to-head competition will not be considered at all for ties involving three or more teams unless all tied teams have played each other and one team has beaten all other tied teams.
If application of a tie-break rule distinguishes one or more of the tied teams from one or more of the others, this distinction shall be made and shall stand. The remaining tie or ties will be resolved by proceeding to the next applicable tie-break rule and so on, not by going back to the first of the tie-break rules and starting over.
If FIFA penalty kicks have to be taken, there will be a draw by the Commission

For three-way ties: The first team drawn will receive a bye; the next team drawn will be the home team against the remaining team in the first contest of penalty kicks. The winner of the first contest will then compete against the bye team, which will be the home team, in penalty kicks to determine the overall winner. If a team other than the bye team is the overall winner after these contests, the bye team and the team which did not win the first contest will compete in penalty kicks to determine the next finisher, unless the original tie was for runner up in a qualifying tournament round-robin

For four-way ties: The first team drawn will be the home team against the next team drawn and the third team drawn will be the home team against the remaining team in two simultaneous contests of penalty kicks. The winner of each contest will then compete against each other [the winner of the contest including the third and remaining team being the home team] in penalty kicks to determine the overall winner and runner up. If the tie is in League finish, the two teams losing the first contests will also compete in penalty kicks to determine the next finisher.

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The five GU12 teams vying not to play in the round robin weekend shapes up (in no particular order) as follows:

EXPLOSION - Needs either a tie or a win in their last two games.

WESTERN - Needs either a tie or a win in their last two games.

STARS - Needs a win and a Scorpion loss or a win and a tie in their last two games.

FULLER - Needs to beat the Scorpions.

SCORPIONS - Needs to beat Fuller and have either Explosion lose their last two, Western lose their last two or Stars lose one of their last two games

So if Explosion beats Western, Western beats Stars, Stars beat Inter, Fuller beats Explosion and Scorpions beat Fuller, Western would go from #2 to #1, Explosion would go from #1 to #2, Scorpions would go from #5 to #3 (having beat both Fuller and Stars) and Fuller and Stars would have to go to a tiebreaker due to this weekend's 0-0 draw. This is what competions should be like. So much hangs in the balance of the final weekend's games.

Stars and Scorpions have the have the more difficult path to the playoffs.

SCORPIONS just need to beat Fuller regardless of what happens elsewhere, that would give them the head-to-head tie breaker.

It is conceivable that all 5 could end up with identical 5-2-1 records, then what? Goal Differential? Most likely Scorpions are out if that happens.

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What is wrong with this age group, you have teams that score 6 every other game and then can't score. You get teams that should win big and squeek by with single goal. There is always a shock result each week and it seems that there is a division within the division. Can anyone fathom and explaination?

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Lets all hope they all play well , and dont get caught up with the craziness of an insignificant tournament at age 12, and they want to continue to play and improve and become better players and have an impact when they are playing at age 15 & 16, then we can worry about SC, subregional, premiere league, and red bull play...That is when the real soccer is played!!!

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What is wrong with this age group, you have teams that score 6 every other game and then can't score. You get teams that should win big and squeek by with single goal. There is always a shock result each week and it seems that there is a division within the division. Can anyone fathom and explaination?

UHHHHHHHHH they are U12

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What is wrong with this age group, you have teams that score 6 every other game and then can't score. You get teams that should win big and squeek by with single goal. There is always a shock result each week and it seems that there is a division within the division. Can anyone fathom and explaination?

The difference between the top teams and the bottom teams can be significant. Plus, it depends on matchups. Are their strong players negating yours? Also, they are 11 and 12 YEARS OLD!!!! Inconsistancy, lack of focus run rampant at this age. I dont see any results as a shock any one week, but am shocked when a team consistantly loses when they control the ball , or wins consistantly without controlling the field of play. From what I have seen that hasn't happened consistantly.

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What is wrong with this age group, you have teams that score 6 every other game and then can't score. You get teams that should win big and squeek by with single goal. There is always a shock result each week and it seems that there is a division within the division. Can anyone fathom and explaination?

Many things to factor in: Weather, Field Conditions, Puberty. Plus the fact that these teams know each other so well. I've noticed coaches making tactical maneuvers to offset other teams strengths or weaknesses.

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What is wrong with this age group, you have teams that score 6 every other game and then can't score. You get teams that should win big and squeek by with single goal. There is always a shock result each week and it seems that there is a division within the division. Can anyone fathom and explaination?

Many things to factor in: Weather, Field Conditions, Puberty. Plus the fact that these teams know each other so well. I've noticed coaches making tactical maneuvers to offset other teams strengths or weaknesses.

Like packing 10 players behind the ball and hope for a long ball out of the back so the 1 quick forward gets lucky. I don't inderstand this, why don't the coaches go for it each game. Are they too dependant on winning or don't they know any other way to coach. At u12 the games should be end to end with players trying to express themselves, make mistakes and learn how to play the game.
Eagles try to play the right way and have lost every game I give more credit to the Eagles team and coach than I would to at least 3 of the teams in the top 5.

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Does anyone recall a Scorps team that was not dominant at U11/U12 and then became dominant at U13-U16? In recent history the Scorps teams tend to be at the top at U11/U12 and then are often overtaken by other teams in the later years (e.g., look at the current U15 Scorps). Right now neither the Scorps U11 or U12 teams are dominant. Can the Scorps out develop/out recruit the competition or will the U12 Scorps slowly start to fade going forward?

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Does anyone recall a Scorps team that was not dominant at U11/U12 and then became dominant at U13-U16? In recent history the Scorps teams tend to be at the top at U11/U12 and then are often overtaken by other teams in the later years (e.g., look at the current U15 Scorps). Right now neither the Scorps U11 or U12 teams are dominant. Can the Scorps out develop/out recruit the competition or will the U12 Scorps slowly start to fade going forward?

Wow that's deep...

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Does anyone recall a Scorps team that was not dominant at U11/U12 and then became dominant at U13-U16? In recent history the Scorps teams tend to be at the top at U11/U12 and then are often overtaken by other teams in the later years (e.g., look at the current U15 Scorps). Right now neither the Scorps U11 or U12 teams are dominant. Can the Scorps out develop/out recruit the competition or will the U12 Scorps slowly start to fade going forward?

"Start to Fade"? - they're already translucent. They peaked in early April and the bottom is still not in sight!

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Does anyone recall a Scorps team that was not dominant at U11/U12 and then became dominant at U13-U16? In recent history the Scorps teams tend to be at the top at U11/U12 and then are often overtaken by other teams in the later years (e.g., look at the current U15 Scorps). Right now neither the Scorps U11 or U12 teams are dominant. Can the Scorps out develop/out recruit the competition or will the U12 Scorps slowly start to fade going forward?

"Start to Fade"? - they're already translucent. They peaked in early April and the bottom is still not in sight!

Dad, sorry your kid got cut. Does posting these types of things help you feel better about yourself? Do you think that is "normal"?