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    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I am the OP, a woman who has played sports and who has daughters who play sports and likely to have someday granddaughters who plays sports, and I am very concerned by this as are many other woman who have been involved in sports over the years. Some of them can tell you what it was like for girls who wanted to play sports before Title IX came to be. The athletic opportunities that have come to females thanks to Title IX are being eroded by allowing those born male to compete against those born female. I agree it's as the result of political ideology and not science. The fact of the matter is little has been done in terms of studies because the belief has been this is a rare oddity and it's just women's sports anyway, so who cares? Well I care and it's no longer a rare oddity. In our effort to be accepting to the transgender population more and more are coming out and more and more want to play sports with the gender they identify.
    ok. Good luck. I have never met another person personally affected by this yet and I am constantly talking to sports parents. I see you are very upset but I just dont see this affecting very many people at all.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The issue is the small number of specifically male to female transgenders in high school that are also athletes that want to compete on girls teams. there are a few of those but is it a small few. just not enough to have affected enough people with a negative view of it to garner tons of outrage. Obviously you are outraged - we get that. But you are part of a very small group.
      The class M girls track championship 100 and 200 m went to boys. A boy also won the silver in the 100. It affected every Class M girl that ran the event. No class M girl in the state had a chance to get a gold in the 200 or even a silver in the 100. That is ridiculous and the scope is broad. Every boy player should call their self a girl and get a scholarship on girls NCAA teams (hockey, golf, soccer, softball ... what a joke). Not sure who is dumber .... the people that run these organizations or our local and federal governments or the idiots that keep putting them in power!

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        #63
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The issue is the small number of specifically male to female transgenders in high school that are also athletes that want to compete on girls teams. there are a few of those but is it a small few. just not enough to have affected enough people with a negative view of it to garner tons of outrage. Obviously you are outraged - we get that. But you are part of a very small group.
        Martina was outraged and look what they did to her a champion of LGBT rights. Imagine what is going to happen to you if you speak up about it.

        The people pushing this agenda won't allow dissent or debate.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The issue is the small number of specifically male to female transgenders in high school that are also athletes that want to compete on girls teams. there are a few of those but is it a small few. just not enough to have affected enough people with a negative view of it to garner tons of outrage. Obviously you are outraged - we get that. But you are part of a very small group.
          As you move up through the educational athletic system the issue gets worse. Fewer women have the opportunity to play college sports and now those opportunities are being taken by those born male. CeCe Telfer at Franklin University is the perfect example of that.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The class M girls track championship 100 and 200 m went to boys. A boy also won the silver in the 100. It affected every Class M girl that ran the event. No class M girl in the state had a chance to get a gold in the 200 or even a silver in the 100. That is ridiculous and the scope is broad. Every boy player should call their self a girl and get a scholarship on girls NCAA teams (hockey, golf, soccer, softball ... what a joke). Not sure who is dumber .... the people that run these organizations or our local and federal governments or the idiots that keep putting them in power!
            I am sure there are just so many boys out there that just dream of doing that. sorry that happened but it is one of millions of injustices life serves up every day. we can barely make progress on the huge issues much less the little ones.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              As you move up through the educational athletic system the issue gets worse. Fewer women have the opportunity to play college sports and now those opportunities are being taken by those born male. CeCe Telfer at Franklin University is the perfect example of that.
              i am out. not going to spin and spin about an issue I see as fairly insignificant.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I am sure there are just so many boys out there that just dream of doing that. sorry that happened but it is one of millions of injustices life serves up every day. we can barely make progress on the huge issues much less the little ones.
                Stop accepting the liberal agenda and penalizing the masses for the anomalies that affect less than 0.1% of the population. The masses are too kind early and then everyone wonders why one night they show up with torches and pitch forks in large numbers .... its because smaller, nicer groups are never listened to.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  i am out. not going to spin and spin about an issue I see as fairly insignificant.
                  It is getting larger every year and it is ridiculous.

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                    #69
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                      #70
                      https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.10/ar...04688b4576.jpg

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Stop accepting the liberal agenda and penalizing the masses for the anomalies that affect less than 0.1% of the population. The masses are too kind early and then everyone wonders why one night they show up with torches and pitch forks in large numbers .... its because smaller, nicer groups are never listened to.
                        when this penalizes the masses, the masses will get involved.

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                          #72
                          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpfCPMEX...jpg&name=small

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                            #73
                            Competition by testosterone level instead of by gender?

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Absolutely correct. It is actually happening. And it's not just track.

                            There is no coherent way to square (1) having separate competitions for females with (2) allowing transgender females to compete in those competitions. If you think that biological males have an advantage, then transgender females shouldn't be permitted. And if you don't think that biological males have an advantage, then there's no reason to break competitions out by gender.
                            THIS! This is the crux of the matter. Sporting competitions used to be only for men. Then we created separate divisions in sports for men and women (because otherwise women would have no physical chance to compete). Allowing biological males to compete in the womens divisions of sports completely nullifies the original intent of having a women’s division in the first place. This is a policy and fairness issue about sport competition ad has NOTHING to do with bathrooms! If so much more than testosterone levels about being a male didn’t also give an unfair competitive advantage (like lung capacity, muscle make up and amount, bone strength and alignment), then I would say we should have competitive divisions base on testosterone levels instead of gender. Then maybe add in a separate division that allows performance enhancing drugs, blood doping etc. I bet that division would be the most popular for fans to watch...

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                              #74
                              Most people would rather slit their wrists then have to go watch a high school track meet. They are awful for spectators. I can say that because I have had to do it many times. HS track is beloved by the runners, coaches and a maybe few hearty parents. that's it. sorry.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                when this penalizes the masses, the masses will get involved.
                                The masses will never get involved because it only affects women who play sports and as I said, not a lot of the masses care about women's sports. Those of us who come out against this are going to be labeled a variety of things for even doing so. That is one reason even those involved with women's sports are afraid to speak out.

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