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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Isn't like the bathroom issue, huh? Would you use the bathroom (or allow your daughter to) while this 'woman' was in there?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdnBV-S-RXk
    Sure why not. Straight males and females act like that every single day too. Does that prevent you from using the public bathroom for fear that a maniac may be in there?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Isn't like the bathroom issue, huh? Would you use the bathroom (or allow your daughter to) while this 'woman' was in there?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdnBV-S-RXk
      Your an idiot. There are millions of Cisgender people behaving badly and I would be uncomfortable entering a public bathroom with and same for there are millions of cis females would not want my wife or daughter entering with.

      It's about respect, dignity and thoughtful debate. Your fearmongering is sad and adds nothing. There is a legitimate debate about the implementation of reasonable rules regarding athletics and transgender people. NCAA and Olympic communities are currently updating and refining their rules.

      This will impact CT athletics and surely will be an issue in girls soccer teams club and high school teams.

      I lean towards more specific and science base rules like having a cap on testosterone levels and or post surgery. I think just declaring yourself a "boy" or "girl" is not good longterm solution to address the issue.

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        Men and former men should not be competing with women, period. There is a natural advantage physically to being born male that does not completely go away no matter what you cut off or what hormones you shoot them up with.

        This is not just a competitive issue but a safety issue as well. Having full grown men running around playing contact sports with significantly smaller women is going to get someone serious hurt or worse.

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          “It's about respect, dignity and thoughtful debate. Your fearmongering is sad and adds nothing. There is a legitimate debate about the implementation of reasonable rules regarding athletics and transgender people. NCAA and Olympic communities are currently updating and refining their rules.

          This will impact CT athletics and surely will be an issue in girls soccer teams club and high school teams.

          I lean towards more specific and science base rules like having a cap on testosterone levels and or post surgery. I think just declaring yourself a "boy" or "girl" is not good longterm solution to address the issue.”

          Yes! This is a completely separate issue and needs to be thoughtfully and fairly dealt with. This isn’t a political issue despite both extreme opposite political sides taking biased unfair positions. This is an issue of Do we need separate Men’s and Women’s divisions? If we believe that we need to separate men and women into separate competitive divisions because otherwise women would basically be shut out, then allowing biological males to compete with the women completely destroys the entire premise. We thoughtfully and fairly need to come up with a better solution that looks solely at the issue of fair sports competition.

          Future issues could be biological boys who don’t feel “manly” enough because they were born with less testosterone, feel ashamed of others seeing them as more feminine and want to have added testosterone & HGH therapy to become the type of taller, stronger male they feel they are inside. Shouldn’t they be allowed to take testosterone and compete as their true selves just like a transgender person? Whether we like it or not, these types of issues are coming down the pike. If we make competition rules that are NOT based solely on gender, it will help to include all but be fair to all at the same time.

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            Have your girls start taking testosterone. Problem solved.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              “It's about respect, dignity and thoughtful debate. Your fearmongering is sad and adds nothing. There is a legitimate debate about the implementation of reasonable rules regarding athletics and transgender people. NCAA and Olympic communities are currently updating and refining their rules.

              This will impact CT athletics and surely will be an issue in girls soccer teams club and high school teams.

              I lean towards more specific and science base rules like having a cap on testosterone levels and or post surgery. I think just declaring yourself a "boy" or "girl" is not good longterm solution to address the issue.”

              Yes! This is a completely separate issue and needs to be thoughtfully and fairly dealt with. This isn’t a political issue despite both extreme opposite political sides taking biased unfair positions. This is an issue of Do we need separate Men’s and Women’s divisions? If we believe that we need to separate men and women into separate competitive divisions because otherwise women would basically be shut out, then allowing biological males to compete with the women completely destroys the entire premise. We thoughtfully and fairly need to come up with a better solution that looks solely at the issue of fair sports competition.

              Future issues could be biological boys who don’t feel “manly” enough because they were born with less testosterone, feel ashamed of others seeing them as more feminine and want to have added testosterone & HGH therapy to become the type of taller, stronger male they feel they are inside. Shouldn’t they be allowed to take testosterone and compete as their true selves just like a transgender person? Whether we like it or not, these types of issues are coming down the pike. If we make competition rules that are NOT based solely on gender, it will help to include all but be fair to all at the same time.
              Are we east germany now and need hormone testing for all contestants before every match? I am sure the democrats will create a new tax to pay for all of this lunacy.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Are we east germany now and need hormone testing for all contestants before every match? I am sure the democrats will create a new tax to pay for all of this lunacy.
                Well the rest of the dems politics align with the old "East Germany" so why not?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post


                  I lean towards more specific and science base rules like having a cap on testosterone levels and or post surgery. I think just declaring yourself a "boy" or "girl" is not good longterm solution to address the issue.”

                  If we make competition rules that are NOT based solely on gender, it will help to include all but be fair to all at the same time.
                  Scientific based rules? What in the world is wrong with athletes born female compete against other females? Pretty simple and straight forward. Has been working for a little while:)

                  Make rules NOT based solely on gender? Really? You cant be serious!

                  This "politically correct" crap has got to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Scientific based rules? What in the world is wrong with athletes born female compete against other females? Pretty simple and straight forward. Has been working for a little while:)

                    Make rules NOT based solely on gender? Really? You cant be serious!

                    This "politically correct" crap has got to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    Its going to get worse until the country looks like Panem and you can barely tell the men from the women.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Are we east germany now and need hormone testing for all contestants before every match? I am sure the democrats will create a new tax to pay for all of this lunacy.
                      Not sure about east Germany but as soon as Sam decides he wants to be sally and gets to play against Nancy he has an unfair advantage
                      Nancy can never overcome- that’s why we have gender based and age based sports rules
                      We even have weight based rules in football
                      18 year olds are different from 12 year olds and boys and girls are different biologically
                      If you were born with junk you play against others with junk- pretty simple

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Not sure about east Germany but as soon as Sam decides he wants to be sally and gets to play against Nancy he has an unfair advantage
                        Nancy can never overcome- that’s why we have gender based and age based sports rules
                        We even have weight based rules in football
                        18 year olds are different from 12 year olds and boys and girls are different biologically
                        If you were born with junk you play against others with junk- pretty simple
                        I am going to have my 15 year old self identify as a 12 year old and play in the u13. She is going to crush it and go pro.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I am going to have my 15 year old self identify as a 12 year old and play in the u13. She is going to crush it and go pro.
                          He must be pretty good if you are going to let him play up in the U13s as a U12 girl.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            He must be pretty good if you are going to let him play up in the U13s as a U12 girl.
                            you cant read


                            at all

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              you cant read


                              at all
                              yaw wicked smaht!

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                “It's about respect, dignity and thoughtful debate. Your fearmongering is sad and adds nothing. There is a legitimate debate about the implementation of reasonable rules regarding athletics and transgender people. NCAA and Olympic communities are currently updating and refining their rules.

                                This will impact CT athletics and surely will be an issue in girls soccer teams club and high school teams.

                                I lean towards more specific and science base rules like having a cap on testosterone levels and or post surgery. I think just declaring yourself a "boy" or "girl" is not good longterm solution to address the issue.”

                                Yes! This is a completely separate issue and needs to be thoughtfully and fairly dealt with. This isn’t a political issue despite both extreme opposite political sides taking biased unfair positions. This is an issue of Do we need separate Men’s and Women’s divisions? If we believe that we need to separate men and women into separate competitive divisions because otherwise women would basically be shut out, then allowing biological males to compete with the women completely destroys the entire premise. We thoughtfully and fairly need to come up with a better solution that looks solely at the issue of fair sports competition.

                                Future issues could be biological boys who don’t feel “manly” enough because they were born with less testosterone, feel ashamed of others seeing them as more feminine and want to have added testosterone & HGH therapy to become the type of taller, stronger male they feel they are inside. Shouldn’t they be allowed to take testosterone and compete as their true selves just like a transgender person? Whether we like it or not, these types of issues are coming down the pike. If we make competition rules that are NOT based solely on gender, it will help to include all but be fair to all at the same time.
                                True. Michael Jackson was a little boy inside but it wasn’t legal for him to do everything with biological little boys. This is an interesting topic. Bottom line is some states have it right. Male to female trans can only play on male teams until they’ve transitioned. Female to male trans can play on female teams unless they start taking male hormones.

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