Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

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It is estimated that the cost to CT taxpayers for the believed 100,000 illegals in the state is $ 1 billion a year.

Not defending any illegal immigration here, but a fair debate would require you to offset that cost by the amount of money those illegal immigrants contribute to the state's economy.

They buy cars, go to the store, pay some level of taxes here and there, rent houses, own homes....they put their earnings into the economy....how much?

Is the net result a surplus or a debit?

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FAIR is a hate group pretending to be about "reform." Listen to some of their talking heads on Fox or on line. Just because they say something doesn't make it true. No wonder they love Trump so much - he's anti-immigrant and doesn't believe in facts either.
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-f...n-reform-fair/

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Hey, do you think alcohol and tobacco negatively affect American life?

If so, then why are they made right here in America?

If not, then why are you so worried about the drugs that come across the border.


Aren't they all the same in regards to their contribution to the quality of American life?

When was the last time a smoker killed a whole family be cause you stole his pack of butts
When was the last time an ally shot up a street corner because you started drinking in his bar

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Are you serious ? You really think rental homes full of low earning under educated illegals is a benefit to the state, country ? How much in income tax do you think they pay on average with such low wages? How many forged documents are they using to get by ?

Who do you think is paying when uninsured illegal need Medical care at the Emergency Room ? We have enough problems with legal poor people and their medical bills.

Do you know that 38 % of the patients at Hartford Hospital are on Medicaid? 60 % of the children patients at CT Children's Medical are on Medicaid?

Why would we want to bring in more low educated poor for health care services when there are statistics like the above ? Should we raise you taxes another 10 ro 20 % to pay for the services that Illegals need? How about it ?

Where are all these advocates you claim are asking to bring in even more illegal immigrants? Who is actually seeking to bring in more? What is your proof of this statement?

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Regulated commerce, vs. not. Same reason why you can't bring fruit from overseas, firewood across the border, etc. No way to tell what's in it and how safe it is.

Legalize pot. Huge problems go away. Billions saved nationally in law enforcement, prosecution/defense and court time, as well as imprisonment. Raises millions per state (or federally) in taxes that can go to education or reducing state taxes. Reduces crime. Improves quality control of what people consume. Sessions won't ever do it because then his buddies in for profit prisons will lose money.

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Legalize pot. Huge problems go away. Billions saved nationally in law enforcement, prosecution/defense and court time, as well as imprisonment. Raises millions per state (or federally) in taxes that can go to education or reducing state taxes. Reduces crime. Improves quality control of what people consume. Sessions won't ever do it because then his buddies in for profit prisons will lose money.

I'm game. Helps put the M13 gang out of business and limits the others coming over the boarder with ill intent, too.

I'm socially pretty liberal when it comes to freedoms. Sessions is pushing a Federal overreach agenda on this.

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Where are all these advocates you claim are asking to bring in even more illegal immigrants? Who is actually seeking to bring in more? What is your proof of this statement?

I've never seen it. Repubs also keep forgetting that illegal crossings were on a continual downward trend under Obama and BO had more deportations than any prior president. There's also the inconvenient fact that most illegals enter legally then stay. The "caravans" of people crossing the Mexican border are a fraction of the problem but make for great Fox coverage and Trump tweets.

Dems want immigration reform as much as the GOP, they just differ on how to get there. Then there's the looming labor shortages this country will face in the next 10-20 years. Having plans in place now will help manage the situation (better short-term work visa programs etc)

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Where are all these advocates you claim are asking to bring in even more illegal immigrants? Who is actually seeking to bring in more? What is your proof of this statement?

But first, they have more plans for the ones that are already here.

Democrats in the New York Legislature are pushing to approve a 21st Century “Equal Rights Amendment” to the state constitution that would bestow legal protections to non-citizens — including illegal immigrants.

“Equality of Rights shall not be denied or abridged because of race, color, creed, religion, national origin, citizenship, marital status, age, gender, sex, pregnancy, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, physical or mental disability …” said the amendment advanced by Sen. Liz Krueger (D-Manhattan) and Assemblywoman Shelley Mayer (D-Westchester).

The “protection against discrimination … is needed to ensure an inclusive society with equal opportunity for personal fulfillment and respect for everyone in New York in all their diversity,” the amendment states.

The inclusion of the “citizenship” clause is turning into an explosive campaign issue because Mayer is now running to fill a vacant Westchester Senate seat in a special election on April 24. Her Republican opponent is former Rye Councilman Julie Killian.

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I'm game. Helps put the M13 gang out of business and limits the others coming over the boarder with ill intent, too.

I'm socially pretty liberal when it comes to freedoms. Sessions is pushing a Federal overreach agenda on this.

For a party that's all about state's rights it is an issue that makes little sense other than the fact that he's an old man with old fashioned ideas AND he has friends who profit from the current system. Let states decide what they want to do.

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For a party that's all about state's rights it is an issue that makes little sense other than the fact that he's an old man with old fashioned ideas AND he has friends who profit from the current system. Let states decide what they want to do.

While I surmise I differ on the surface with you politically on many factors, your statements above I agree with 100%. Shows how hypocritical my party can be.

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But first, they have more plans for the ones that are already here.

Democrats in the New York Legislature are pushing to approve a 21st Century “Equal Rights Amendment” to the state constitution that would bestow legal protections to non-citizens — including illegal immigrants.

“Equality of Rights shall not be denied or abridged because of race, color, creed, religion, national origin, citizenship, marital status, age, gender, sex, pregnancy, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, physical or mental disability …” said the amendment advanced by Sen. Liz Krueger (D-Manhattan) and Assemblywoman Shelley Mayer (D-Westchester).

The “protection against discrimination … is needed to ensure an inclusive society with equal opportunity for personal fulfillment and respect for everyone in New York in all their diversity,” the amendment states.

The inclusion of the “citizenship” clause is turning into an explosive campaign issue because Mayer is now running to fill a vacant Westchester Senate seat in a special election on April 24. Her Republican opponent is former Rye Councilman Julie Killian.

Just because someone is here illegally doesn't mean they should open to abuse, mistreatment. They should have some legal protections as part of basic human rights. And I know this may be shocking to you but some are here because they genuinely are persecuted or face certain death back home. We used to be a country that cared.

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Regulated commerce, vs. not. Same reason why you can't bring fruit from overseas, firewood across the border, etc. No way to tell what's in it and how safe it is.

Don't deflect.


That was not the argument being made by the poster. His argument was clearly that the drugs are a problem because they have a negative impact on our culture. I'm simply asking him if he sees alcohol and tobacco the same and if so, why are they allowed to be made and sold in this country?

The question was one of negative impact on our culture, not about regulated economies or not.

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While I surmise I differ on the surface with you politically on many factors, your statements above I agree with 100%. Shows how hypocritical my party can be.

Most voters are more in the center on many issues than they or their parties are willing to admit. Both sides have becomes parties of the extremes

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When was the last time a smoker killed a whole family be cause you stole his pack of butts
When was the last time an ally shot up a street corner because you started drinking in his bar

I don't know, but I'm sure we can find all sorts of petty reasons for people killing other people.

What's your point?

It seems the last few large scale killings in this country had nothing to do with drugs, alcohol or tobacco.

Nice try, but you miss the mark.

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I've never seen it. Repubs also keep forgetting that illegal crossings were on a continual downward trend under Obama and BO had more deportations than any prior president. There's also the inconvenient fact that most illegals enter legally then stay. The "caravans" of people crossing the Mexican border are a fraction of the problem but make for great Fox coverage and Trump tweets.

Dems want immigration reform as much as the GOP, they just differ on how to get there. Then there's the looming labor shortages this country will face in the next 10-20 years. Having plans in place now will help manage the situation (better short-term work visa programs etc)

" third highest rate of births to unwed women in America. "
Junior High School Educations.
That will sure make America great again.

More than three quarters of African American births are to unmarried women, nearly double the illegitimacy rate of all other births, according to new federal data.

The National Center for Health Statistics said that in 2015, 77.3 percent of non-immigrant black births were illegitimate. The national non-immigrant average is 42 percent, and it was 30 percent for whites.

The new numbers were in a Center for Immigration Studies analysis on the births to immigrants. That total is 32.7 percent, but to Hispanic immigrants it is 48.9 percent, according to Steven Camarota, the director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies.





On one thing we can all agree: The Left wants more and more immigrants — including immigrants who enter or stay in the country illegally — to come to America and become American citizens.

The question is, why?

The first and most obvious reason is political. The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, chain migration, sanctuary cities, and citizenship for immigrants living in the country illegally will give the Left political power. An estimated 70 to 80 percent of Latin American immigrants will vote Democratic. So with enough new voters from Latin America alone, the Democrats would essentially be assured the presidency and Congress for decades













Conservatives and Republicans fool themselves when they argue that Latin Americans are “social conservatives” because they oppose abortion and support a strong nuclear family. Even to the extent that those statements are true — and regarding the second claim, it is worth noting that Latinos have the third-highest percentage of births to unwed women in America — those arguments are irrelevant. Latin Americans are overwhelmingly on the political left, and they vote accordingly. Think about the Latin American Pope Francis’s beliefs about big government, small militaries, and the social welfare state, and his contempt for capitalism (“terrorism against all humanity”) — and you know how the vast majority of Latin Americans think.


Why do Democrats support sanctuary cities, and even sanctuary states? Because, it enables them to feel good about themselves. In their eyes, they are moral heroes protecting the stranger, the oppressed, the marginalized, the destitute.