Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

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Remember Trump's inaugural speech? It was all doom and gloom negativity. Obama's was
at least inspirational, even if he didn't fully deliver. over his 8 years (thanks in part to GOP obstructionist moves)

You call it doom and gloom rational people called it reality- and he is working on changing that reality
Obama, a great speech giver, spoke fantasy and couldnt deliver his socialist utopia
U call obstructionism rational people call it democracy

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Remember Trump's inaugural speech? It was all doom and gloom negativity. Obama's was
at least inspirational, even if he didn't fully deliver. over his 8 years (thanks in part to GOP obstructionist moves)

Oh stop. Obama has the House and Senate for 4 months, and what did he do ? Rammed Obama care through so Nancy could parade around with the giant gavel with John Larson playing the part of a lap dog.
One $$$ Trillion not ready for prime time shovels "stimulus " that went down the rabbit hole of unions, cronies and states. Oh yes, don't forget " cash for Clunkers" . a real stinker that cost taxpayers millions and millions. The list goes on with the " green " busts like Solyndra.

Only after the Repubs took over Congress was his insanity corralled , and that is how the system is designed to work. Today, the Democrats are proud to " resist " , but when Repubs " obstructed " it was a high crime. Save us.

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Remember Trump's inaugural speech? It was all doom and gloom negativity. Obama's was
at least inspirational, even if he didn't fully deliver. over his 8 years (thanks in part to GOP obstructionist moves)

Great point. Different tones, different tenor. Campaigned that well as well. While "hope and change" to me was nothing, it was his message and his speeches represented it. Trumps message played to the anger of some, and his speeches played to that.

-Signed

Someone who is so not a Lib

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Oh stop. Obama has the House and Senate for 4 months, and what did he do ? Rammed Obama care through so Nancy could parade around with the giant gavel with John Larson playing the part of a lap dog.
One $$$ Trillion not ready for prime time shovels "stimulus " that went down the rabbit hole of unions, cronies and states. Oh yes, don't forget " cash for Clunkers" . a real stinker that cost taxpayers millions and millions. The list goes on with the " green " busts like Solyndra.

Only after the Repubs took over Congress was his insanity corralled , and that is how the system is designed to work. Today, the Democrats are proud to " resist " , but when Repubs " obstructed " it was a high crime. Save us.

The wall will be the ultimate cash for clunker.

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they. All. Have. Speech. Writers.

It's not the writing it's the ideas and delivery of the speech that are most important.

Sorry, its the truthfullness and feasability that make a speech important
Direction and vision are important only if you are willing to do the hard work to get to the finish line
Delivery is only important to keep people listening- but if its all smoke and mirrors does it really matter?

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The wall will be the ultimate cash for clunker.

true dat. what a g dam waste of money.

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The wall will be the ultimate cash for clunker.

Not even close to the debt Obama racked up.




Dems for a fence in 2006
Obama, Schumer and Clinton voted for a border wall in 2006.

They did vote for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized building a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the United States and Mexico.

Still, the fence they voted for is not as substantial as the wall Trump is proposing. Trump himself called the 2006 fence a "nothing wall."
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So will the Dems approve 1/2 the cost, any cost ? Unlikely from the resistance

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Not even close to the debt Obama racked up.




Dems for a fence in 2006
Obama, Schumer and Clinton voted for a border wall in 2006.

They did vote for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized building a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the United States and Mexico.

Still, the fence they voted for is not as substantial as the wall Trump is proposing. Trump himself called the 2006 fence a "nothing wall."
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So will the Dems approve 1/2 the cost, any cost ? Unlikely from the resistance

Don't care who voted for a wall. negative bang for the buck. suit yourself but i don't want a single tax dollar spent on that useless monstrosity.

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Don't care who voted for a wall. negative bang for the buck. suit yourself but i don't want a single tax dollar spent on that useless monstrosity.

When charges of “racism” and “xenophobia” fail, Democrats’ fallback argument against President Trump’s proposed border wall is that it simply “won’t work,” so why waste billions building it? Tell that to the residents of El Paso, Texas.

Federal data show a far-less imposing wall than the one Trump envisions — a two-story corrugated metal fence first erected under the Bush administration — already has dramatically curtailed both illegal border crossings and crime in Texas’ sixth-largest city, which borders the high-crime Mexican city of Juarez.

In fact, the number of deportable illegal immigrants located by the US Border Patrol plummeted by more than 89 percent over the five-year period during which the controversial new fence was built, according to Homeland Security data I reviewed. When the project first started in 2006, illegal crossings totaled 122,261, but by 2010, when the 131-mile fence was completed from one end of El Paso out into the New Mexico desert, immigrant crossings shrank to just 12,251.

They hit a low of 9,678 in 2012, before slowly ticking back up to a total of 25,193 last year. But they’re still well below pre-fence levels, and the Border Patrol credits the fortified barrier dividing El Paso from Mexico for the reduction in illegal flows.

And crime abated with the reduced human traffic from Juarez, considered one of the most dangerous places in the world due to drug-cartel violence, helping El Paso become one of the safest large cities in America.

Before 2010, federal data show the border city was mired in violent crime and drug smuggling, thanks in large part to illicit activities spilling over from the Mexican side. Once the fence went up, however, things changed almost overnight. El Paso since then has consistently topped rankings for cities of 500,000 residents or more with low crime rates, based on FBI-collected statistics. The turnaround even caught the attention of former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other Obama administration officials, who touted it as one of the nation’s safest cities while citing the beefed-up border security there.

Federal data illustrates just how remarkable the turnaround in crime has been since the fence was built. According to FBI tables, property crimes in El Paso have plunged more than 37 percent to 12,357 from their pre-fence peak of 19,702 a year, while violent crimes have dropped more than 6 percent to 2,682 from a peak of 2,861 a year.

The overall crime rate in El Paso continued to fall last year, prompting city leaders to trumpet the good news in a press release that noted, “Because El Paso is a border town, its low crime rate may surprise you.”

Since the fence was completed, the volume of marijuana and cocaine coming through El Paso and seized by Border Patrol agents has been cut in half


El Paso City Manager Tommy Gonzalez boasted that the city will “continue to lead our country in public safety.”

Another core promise made by Trump to justify constructing a massive wall spanning from Texas to California is that it will slow the flow of drugs coming across the border from Mexico.

“We need the wall for security. We need the wall for safety,” Trump said last week while answering questions about the sweeping new GOP immigration bill. “We need the wall for stopping the drugs from pouring in.”

On that score, El Paso already has exceeded expectations.

Drug smuggling along that border entry point has also fallen dramatically. In fact, since the fence was completed, the volume of marijuana and cocaine coming through El Paso and seized by Border Patrol agents has been cut in half.

The year before the wall was fully built in 2010, the volume of illegal drugs confiscated by the feds along the El Paso border hit 87,725 pounds. The year after, the amount of drug seizures plummeted to 43,783 pounds. Last year, they dropped even further to a total of 34,329, according to Border Patrol reports obtained by The Post.

All told, a legion of empirical evidence supports the idea a southern border wall could, in fact, work. There is also anecdotal evidence. In local press accounts, El Paso residents and business owners alike have praised the fence, citing it as an effective deterrent to both illegal crossings and crime.



Now Trump plans to build a possibly bigger deterrent.

The existing fence along the El Paso sector, which is made of a combination of corrugated steel and metal meshing, towers 21-feet high at some points and is already hard to climb. But the Trump wall, which will begin construction in El Paso, will be even taller and have multiple layers of security.

Still, Democratic leaders are adamantly opposed to it. They argue the $18 billion wall won’t work to keep out illegal immigrants and drugs, and will only be a massive waste of tax dollars.

“We think, frankly, the building of the wall, its cost is not justified either by its efficiency or effectiveness,” House Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday.
Even local Democrats are arguing with success.

“That wall in itself is a racist reaction to a racist myth that does not reflect the reality of this country at all,” said Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-El Paso).



Paul Sperry

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When charges of “racism” and “xenophobia” fail, Democrats’ fallback argument against President Trump’s proposed border wall is that it simply “won’t work,” so why waste billions building it? Tell that to the residents of El Paso, Texas.

Federal data show a far-less imposing wall than the one Trump envisions — a two-story corrugated metal fence first erected under the Bush administration — already has dramatically curtailed both illegal border crossings and crime in Texas’ sixth-largest city, which borders the high-crime Mexican city of Juarez.

In fact, the number of deportable illegal immigrants located by the US Border Patrol plummeted by more than 89 percent over the five-year period during which the controversial new fence was built, according to Homeland Security data I reviewed. When the project first started in 2006, illegal crossings totaled 122,261, but by 2010, when the 131-mile fence was completed from one end of El Paso out into the New Mexico desert, immigrant crossings shrank to just 12,251.

They hit a low of 9,678 in 2012, before slowly ticking back up to a total of 25,193 last year. But they’re still well below pre-fence levels, and the Border Patrol credits the fortified barrier dividing El Paso from Mexico for the reduction in illegal flows.

And crime abated with the reduced human traffic from Juarez, considered one of the most dangerous places in the world due to drug-cartel violence, helping El Paso become one of the safest large cities in America.

Before 2010, federal data show the border city was mired in violent crime and drug smuggling, thanks in large part to illicit activities spilling over from the Mexican side. Once the fence went up, however, things changed almost overnight. El Paso since then has consistently topped rankings for cities of 500,000 residents or more with low crime rates, based on FBI-collected statistics. The turnaround even caught the attention of former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other Obama administration officials, who touted it as one of the nation’s safest cities while citing the beefed-up border security there.

Federal data illustrates just how remarkable the turnaround in crime has been since the fence was built. According to FBI tables, property crimes in El Paso have plunged more than 37 percent to 12,357 from their pre-fence peak of 19,702 a year, while violent crimes have dropped more than 6 percent to 2,682 from a peak of 2,861 a year.

The overall crime rate in El Paso continued to fall last year, prompting city leaders to trumpet the good news in a press release that noted, “Because El Paso is a border town, its low crime rate may surprise you.”

Since the fence was completed, the volume of marijuana and cocaine coming through El Paso and seized by Border Patrol agents has been cut in half


El Paso City Manager Tommy Gonzalez boasted that the city will “continue to lead our country in public safety.”

Another core promise made by Trump to justify constructing a massive wall spanning from Texas to California is that it will slow the flow of drugs coming across the border from Mexico.

“We need the wall for security. We need the wall for safety,” Trump said last week while answering questions about the sweeping new GOP immigration bill. “We need the wall for stopping the drugs from pouring in.”

On that score, El Paso already has exceeded expectations.

Drug smuggling along that border entry point has also fallen dramatically. In fact, since the fence was completed, the volume of marijuana and cocaine coming through El Paso and seized by Border Patrol agents has been cut in half.

The year before the wall was fully built in 2010, the volume of illegal drugs confiscated by the feds along the El Paso border hit 87,725 pounds. The year after, the amount of drug seizures plummeted to 43,783 pounds. Last year, they dropped even further to a total of 34,329, according to Border Patrol reports obtained by The Post.

All told, a legion of empirical evidence supports the idea a southern border wall could, in fact, work. There is also anecdotal evidence. In local press accounts, El Paso residents and business owners alike have praised the fence, citing it as an effective deterrent to both illegal crossings and crime.



Now Trump plans to build a possibly bigger deterrent.

The existing fence along the El Paso sector, which is made of a combination of corrugated steel and metal meshing, towers 21-feet high at some points and is already hard to climb. But the Trump wall, which will begin construction in El Paso, will be even taller and have multiple layers of security.

Still, Democratic leaders are adamantly opposed to it. They argue the $18 billion wall won’t work to keep out illegal immigrants and drugs, and will only be a massive waste of tax dollars.

“We think, frankly, the building of the wall, its cost is not justified either by its efficiency or effectiveness,” House Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday.
Even local Democrats are arguing with success.

“That wall in itself is a racist reaction to a racist myth that does not reflect the reality of this country at all,” said Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-El Paso).



Paul Sperry

Did you post something? This is ts. Keep it short or don't waste your time and money. No one is reading all your cutting and pasting.

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Did you post something? This is ts. Keep it short or don't waste your time and money. No one is reading all your cutting and pasting.

I found it rather interesting. Certainly much more than the fuktard name calling with no substance that is usually on here.

Maybe you meant to be watching cartoons this afternoon instead of trying to engage in an adult conversation?

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Did you post something? This is ts. Keep it short or don't waste your time and money. No one is reading all your cutting and pasting.

" Ignorance is bliss "

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" Ignorance is bliss "

Much better.

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Multiple studies show that at least 60-70% of illegals enter the country legally and just stay. Illegal border crossings are a small part of the issue. Mexico also isn't the only entry point. Spend money on better tracking of legal visitors, faster deportation for overstays, stronger penalties for employers who hire illegals, tighten up gaps on the border, have a better system for temporary low skilled workers to come here 3-5 years for low skilled jobs (like agricultural workers ). I think everyone can agree on common sense solutions like that. The wall is folly and symbolic for Trump's dog whistle politics

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Multiple studies show that at least 60-70% of illegals enter the country legally and just stay. Illegal border crossings are a small part of the issue. Mexico also isn't the only entry point. Spend money on better tracking of legal visitors, faster deportation for overstays, stronger penalties for employers who hire illegals, tighten up gaps on the border, have a better system for temporary low skilled workers to come here 3-5 years for low skilled jobs (like agricultural workers ). I think everyone can agree on common sense solutions like that. The wall is folly and symbolic for Trump's dog whistle politics

"faster deportation for overstays"

Hoo boy, you sound like a cold heartless bastahd with comments like that.


"tighten up gaps on the border"

Great idea. Let's do it with a wall. No gaps now.