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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You're a sensitive boy, with that thin skin. Just like your idol.
    Toughen up, son.

    Real cutting edge commentary there.

    Isn't there a bridge you should be out taggin'?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Because that's so easy to do from hundreds even thousands of miles away. Families fleeing central America are leaving as a last ditch measure to find a safe place for their children. Often there's no time to plan - they just run. Many of those caught up in the new policy were already on their way when it started and the trip can take several weeks. They had no idea what they'd be facing at the border. No doubt now the numbers will drop off dramatically, which of course was the administration's intention in the first place.
      How is that my problem?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Democrat lawmakers want to abolish Ice.

        http://thehill.com/homenews/house/39...to-abolish-ice

        More accurately, ONE Democrat has introduced a bill seeking to abolish ICE. Where exactly are the the rest of the Democrats identified in that story?


        This is what we like to call hyperbole. The weapon of those who are not willing to look at the truth.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          More accurately, ONE Democrat has introduced a bill seeking to abolish ICE. Where exactly are the the rest of the Democrats identified in that story?


          This is what we like to call hyperbole. The weapon of those who are not willing to look at the truth.
          You know how it goes. One kid in South Carolina shows up wearing a white hood, and we're all racist as a result.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Well it appears that in the view of Liberals , everyone showing up at the border is an innocent victim just looking for a better life. Let’s talk reality, something that research reveals rather than quote talking heads making a buck. But, hey , if you want to quote George Will, don’t forget what he has always said “ Fair is an elusive concept ‘

            80 % of the children arrriving at the border are alone. Some of them are smuggling drugs, having been caught in possesssion of fetanyl for example. You know, the illegals drug manufactured in Mexico that is responsible for the deaths of many Americans. Other children are being escorted by gang members and non family members. But for liberals, just let them in, we’ll give them a court date as our Laws suggest.

            Due to the inaction of Congress , and past Presidents Bush and Obama, there is a backlog of tens of thousands of cases to be heard. And of those caught at the border and given a court
            date under Obama, 97 % fail to show up. And that’s how gang members and criminals end up in communities to terrorize American citizens. We are still sifting through the cases , it drags on for years. And the Democrats are happy to just let this go on. Matter of fact, they encourage it.

            THe threat isn’t the actions of the President The threat is the false narrative given by the mSM media regarding the circumstances dicating what right the illegals have. And th emjority of those perceived rights is that they apply to specific incidents at Ports of Entry. That’s where asylum can be asked for. Not sneaking under a fence with 10 children and saying their “ guardian” is a family member.

            THe entire reason the Constitution spells out perceived rights for those entering the country is for the protection of the American people, not the protection of non citizens. That’s the lie that Democrats and their MSM enablers want Americans to believe. The US Constitution was written for the benefit of American citizens, and that’s always been the case. In individual circumstances, the Courts may grant certain rights to non citizens, but it is hardly broad based with a wide brush as Democrats suggest.

            So now let’s talk about “ fair”. Many Americans don’t think it is fair that taxpayers have to support people from failed societies that show up at our border and sneak in. Many Americans think it is unfair that in America today, and over many , many years, children are separated from their parents by authorities for a variety of reasons. Criminal Courts , Civil Courts and especially the Foster Care system. Not a peep from Democrats and the MSM regarding perceived injustice that parents claim under so many circumstances.

            There isn’t any conclusion but to admit that Democrats are now the Party of illegals. All of our CT Democratic leaders are all over the country , chasing sound bites and media spotlights for a couple of thousand children, whose main complaint appears to be that the Air Conditioned tents are a little cold. But back at home,, here in CT, in cities like Hartford, Bridgeport and others, children are in need. American children going to crumbling schools, with dated infastructure ,and back home , for many that can mean a broken home, their nutritional and mental needs may not be met.

            So if you are going to stand on your Soapbox and lecture us about the rule of law as it applies to non- citizens, isn’t it fair to suggest that energy should be directed to American children first and foremost ? Do you think that there are more than a couple of thousand American children in need ? Where are the Democrats protesting ? Where are the taxpayer paid for Lawyers to represent American parents in the Civil and Foster care system on the taxpayer dime? I’ll tell you, they don’t exist. How’s that for fair ?

            Wonderful rant, but it has nothing to do with the law and our Constitution.

            The Constitution clearly uses the word "person" in the Fifth Amendment and not the word "citizen". Just go read any Constitutional Historian and expert on this and they will confirm our Founding Fathers purposely used the word "person" to expand the reach of the Amendment beyond those persons who are earlier defined as "citizens".

            This isn't about fair. It's about the law and justice. There are plenty of SCOTUS rulings that have reinforced this position over the years as well.

            If you think the law as it exists is not "fair" then I urge you to take up the cause to effect a lasting change.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              How is that my problem?
              Exactly!

              Thank you!

              MAGA

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Wonderful rant, but it has nothing to do with the law and our Constitution.

                The Constitution clearly uses the word "person" in the Fifth Amendment and not the word "citizen". Just go read any Constitutional Historian and expert on this and they will confirm our Founding Fathers purposely used the word "person" to expand the reach of the Amendment beyond those persons who are earlier defined as "citizens".

                This isn't about fair. It's about the law and justice. There are plenty of SCOTUS rulings that have reinforced this position over the years as well.

                If you think the law as it exists is not "fair" then I urge you to take up the cause to effect a lasting change.
                Not that ranting poster, but given the recent spate of poor decision by Scotus I don't expect any decisions to go the way they should any longer.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Because that's so easy to do from hundreds even thousands of miles away. Families fleeing central America are leaving as a last ditch measure to find a safe place for their children. Often there's no time to plan - they just run. Many of those caught up in the new policy were already on their way when it started and the trip can take several weeks. They had no idea what they'd be facing at the border. No doubt now the numbers will drop off dramatically, which of course was the administration's intention in the first place.
                  Mexico is a safe place and they travelled thru it
                  Were also offered asylum in Mexico either just stop or turn around
                  Mexico will save you just ask their president

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Wonderful rant, but it has nothing to do with the law and our Constitution.

                    The Constitution clearly uses the word "person" in the Fifth Amendment and not the word "citizen". Just go read any Constitutional Historian and expert on this and they will confirm our Founding Fathers purposely used the word "person" to expand the reach of the Amendment beyond those persons who are earlier defined as "citizens".

                    This isn't about fair. It's about the law and justice. There are plenty of SCOTUS rulings that have reinforced this position over the years as well.

                    If you think the law as it exists is not "fair" then I urge you to take up the cause to effect a lasting change.
                    The 5th also uses the term citizen- read it
                    And the fifth has nothing to do with what's going on at the border
                    #1- its not a capital crime
                    #2 caught on American soil and no legal justification for being here
                    #3 you dont have to testify against yourself because see #2
                    Life liberty happiness personal property double jeopardy dont apply

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                      That was easy.....

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The 5th also uses the term citizen- read it
                      And the fifth has nothing to do with what's going on at the border
                      #1- its not a capital crime
                      #2 caught on American soil and no legal justification for being here
                      #3 you dont have to testify against yourself because see #2
                      Life liberty happiness personal property double jeopardy dont apply
                      Read it again....

                      5th Amendment:
                      No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Read it again....

                        5th Amendment:
                        No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
                        Thank you.

                        Do you think he'll go read the prior SCOTUS rulings in the past that reaffirm this stuff?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The 5th also uses the term citizen- read it
                          And the fifth has nothing to do with what's going on at the border
                          #1- its not a capital crime
                          #2 caught on American soil and no legal justification for being here
                          #3 you dont have to testify against yourself because see #2
                          Life liberty happiness personal property double jeopardy dont apply
                          And none of that applies to seeking asylum. We agreed to international standards to give asylum seekers a chance to plead their cases. We also agreed to never separate children from their parents unwillingly. But now that we've dropped out of the UN Council on Human Rights the administration has chucked that all out of the window. Trump also said we "don't have time" for the constitution.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Thank you.

                            Do you think he'll go read the prior SCOTUS rulings in the past that reaffirm this stuff?
                            Trump either has zero knowledge of the constitution, or is simply willfully ignoring the parts he doesn't like. He sure loves to rant about the 1st and 2nd amendments so I'm assuming it is the later.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              And none of that applies to seeking asylum. We agreed to international standards to give asylum seekers a chance to plead their cases. We also agreed to never separate children from their parents unwillingly. But now that we've dropped out of the UN Council on Human Rights the administration has chucked that all out of the window. Trump also said we "don't have time" for the constitution.
                              In Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678 (2001), The Supreme Court of the United States addressed the issue of aliens entering the United States and whether they were entitled to due process protections. The Davis Court held in part: “But once an alien enters the country, the legal circumstance changes, for the Due Process Clause applies to all “persons” within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent.”

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                In Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678 (2001), The Supreme Court of the United States addressed the issue of aliens entering the United States and whether they were entitled to due process protections. The Davis Court held in part: “But once an alien enters the country, the legal circumstance changes, for the Due Process Clause applies to all “persons” within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent.”
                                Yeah, well clearly Trump hasn't read that. Or is ignoring it. #2 most likely again

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