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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Why would he ever take the stand? He just won't show up and litigate in courts a la Trump. What's wrong with that?
    Here’s your reality check :

    Will take 50 senate votes to compel a witness and even though cons have that and a few
    votes to spare, they will be far too cowardly to do so because if they ask Schiff to appear, then Nunes has to be sworn in and cons couldn’t survive that.

    And if Biden is going to appear I think public will be very disappointed if Trump , Don Jr et al don’t “c’mon down” and answer some questions under oath too.

    Looking forward and hope
    Cons still do when reality dawns

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Please do share that circumstantial evidence. You know, the evidence that will show that Shokin refused to investigate Barisma before he was fired. What other evidence are you referring to?
      Come on Snowflake. That's easy. Its the stuff MSM hates to mention. Hunter, hired with zero experience, paid 50K/month, only because his dad was VP, while Dad was appointed the point man on Ukraine by Obama. Obviously Burisma looking for access to highest level of US Government. Maybe some pay to play going on, not far fetched.

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        Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Come on Snowflake. That's easy. Its the stuff MSM hates to mention. Hunter, hired with zero experience, paid 50K/month, only because his dad was VP, while Dad was appointed the point man on Ukraine by Obama. Obviously Burisma looking for access to highest level of US Government. Maybe some pay to play going on, not far fetched.
        sounds more like business and corruption as usual for career politicians like the Bidens, Clintons, Obamas and any other career politician out there.....another reason why TRUMP is hated so much....TRUMP is trying to expose and end all this corruption as was his base argument in the 2016 election, devoted to "Draining The Swamp"...fighting both democrats and Republicans for the american people...God Bless Donald TRUMP!!!

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Snowflake, Snowflake. There is no evidence because no one has done any digging yet on the Biden's and Burmisa. There is a hell of a lot of circumstantial evidence, including media reports from your favorite WAPO that something was not right there with the VP, his son and a corrupt foreign gas company. Patience, Rudy's working on it.

          Yes the IG report was very damning to the FBI. It justifies what the republicans have been saying for some time that the evidence used to spy on a presidential campaign was very weak and little to no exculpatory (known) evidence was provided to the FISA court. But the IG is restricted to the DOJ. Durham has much broader powers and has collected evidence from other government agencies and countries as well. Again, wait and see he's working on it.
          So very wrong it's absurd. What you're saying about Durham is what the republicans (and you) have been saying about the Horowitz report:



          “And when Attorney General Barr and Mr. Horowitz release that report in approximately a month, I think we are going to see additional criminal referrals with [Andrew] McCabe getting another referral, Comey a referral, [Peter] Strzok and [Lisa] Page, James Baker, possibly Bruce Ohr and other people who we haven't even meant as household names yet will have criminal referrals. And I think what we're going to see, Gregg, is in March or April of next year, James Comey, Andy McCabe, Strzok and Paige will be on trial for the crimes they committed against the Fourth Amendment and against this president.” -- Corey Lewindowsky

          “You have a FISA report coming out, and which the word is, it’s historic. That’s what the word is, that’s what I hear. And if it’s historic you’re going to see something.” --Donal Trump

          Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, Trump noted that the release of the FISA report is "coming out soon" and will shed light on a "corrupt election." Trump said he believes the string of misconduct "goes right up" to his predecessor, former President Barack Obama. -- Donald Trump, Washington Examiner 10.19.19

          Fox News' Chris Wallace said on air that the IG report headline should be "it didn't find the things that Bill Barr and Donald Trump alleged."


          The inspector general’s report was going to pull back the curtain, reveal the truth, and explain that the whole Russia investigation could genuinely be dismissed as an illegal witch hunt. The report was going to provide Trump with hard evidence against James Comey, against Andrew McCabe, against Peter Strzok, against everyone who had ever had the gall to actually investigate Trump’s open, public outreach to Vladimir Putin.

          Except it didn’t. Instead. the inspector general found that the FBI had had more than adequate reason to open the investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russia. It found that all of the people who have populated thousands of Trump tweets over the last years—Comey, McCabe, and agents up and down the line—acted without political intent, out of concern over national security. Horowitz’s report didn’t just fail to find any of the conspiracies that Trump and Barr had been touting; it also laid to rest any idea that there is anything, anything, behind those claims.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            So very wrong it's absurd. What you're saying about Durham is what the republicans (and you) have been saying about the Horowitz report:



            “And when Attorney General Barr and Mr. Horowitz release that report in approximately a month, I think we are going to see additional criminal referrals with [Andrew] McCabe getting another referral, Comey a referral, [Peter] Strzok and [Lisa] Page, James Baker, possibly Bruce Ohr and other people who we haven't even meant as household names yet will have criminal referrals. And I think what we're going to see, Gregg, is in March or April of next year, James Comey, Andy McCabe, Strzok and Paige will be on trial for the crimes they committed against the Fourth Amendment and against this president.” -- Corey Lewindowsky

            “You have a FISA report coming out, and which the word is, it’s historic. That’s what the word is, that’s what I hear. And if it’s historic you’re going to see something.” --Donal Trump

            Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, Trump noted that the release of the FISA report is "coming out soon" and will shed light on a "corrupt election." Trump said he believes the string of misconduct "goes right up" to his predecessor, former President Barack Obama. -- Donald Trump, Washington Examiner 10.19.19

            Fox News' Chris Wallace said on air that the IG report headline should be "it didn't find the things that Bill Barr and Donald Trump alleged."


            The inspector general’s report was going to pull back the curtain, reveal the truth, and explain that the whole Russia investigation could genuinely be dismissed as an illegal witch hunt. The report was going to provide Trump with hard evidence against James Comey, against Andrew McCabe, against Peter Strzok, against everyone who had ever had the gall to actually investigate Trump’s open, public outreach to Vladimir Putin.

            Except it didn’t. Instead. the inspector general found that the FBI had had more than adequate reason to open the investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russia. It found that all of the people who have populated thousands of Trump tweets over the last years—Comey, McCabe, and agents up and down the line—acted without political intent, out of concern over national security. Horowitz’s report didn’t just fail to find any of the conspiracies that Trump and Barr had been touting; it also laid to rest any idea that there is anything, anything, behind those claims.
            No, no, Snowflake, as usual, you're not completely correct. Not sure what repot you're reading but the report found plenty of things amiss. Holding back exculpatory evidence, relying on an unverified and proven inaccurate dossier, not sharing the biased origins and funding of the information to support the application. It proves it was a leap to judgement and a scary one at that. It's an example of government out of control. And an example of what happens when you give too much power to unelected officials. It's everything republicans have been saying. Again, this is just part one, Durham is on part two.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              No, no, Snowflake, as usual, you're not completely correct. Not sure what repot you're reading but the report found plenty of things amiss. Holding back exculpatory evidence, relying on an unverified and proven inaccurate dossier, not sharing the biased origins and funding of the information to support the application. It proves it was a leap to judgement and a scary one at that. It's an example of government out of control. And an example of what happens when you give too much power to unelected officials. It's everything republicans have been saying. Again, this is just part one, Durham is on part two.
              Explain to me how the FISA warranted impacted the investigation at all. If it was never issued then the government couldn't spy on Page. Ok. So?

              I get that the FBI mishandled the application. Got it. How did that impact the investigation?

              The report concluded that investigation was legitimate and was not based on the dossier.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Explain to me how the FISA warranted impacted the investigation at all. If it was never issued then the government couldn't spy on Page. Ok. So?

                I get that the FBI mishandled the application. Got it. How did that impact the investigation?

                The report concluded that investigation was legitimate and was not based on the dossier.
                See Snowflake not 100% accurate. This spying occurred on 4 people it turned out. Flynn, Manafort, Page and Popodopolous. The spying started this whole thing. The spying came first, when Trump found out he started chopping heads, Comey was first, then McCabe. Sessions and Rosenstien didn't have the guts to end it. There would have been no Muller if the spying didn't occur, because Comey's firing concerned Rosenstien so he initiated a special counsel, even though there was insufficient evidence to start the spying in the first place. In the end Muller found nothing. Trump was right all along and the whole thing was everyone's waste of time.

                All kidding aside what is scary to me is the small amount of evidence and the lack of due diligence needed to start the ball rolling on spying on a political campaign. McCabe said he thought Trump might be a Russian agent as recently as this summer.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  See Snowflake not 100% accurate. This spying occurred on 4 people it turned out. Flynn, Manafort, Page and Popodopolous. The spying started this whole thing. The spying came first, when Trump found out he started chopping heads, Comey was first, then McCabe. Sessions and Rosenstien didn't have the guts to end it. There would have been no Muller if the spying didn't occur, because Comey's firing concerned Rosenstien so he initiated a special counsel, even though there was insufficient evidence to start the spying in the first place. In the end Muller found nothing. Trump was right all along and the whole thing was everyone's waste of time.

                  All kidding aside what is scary to me is the small amount of evidence and the lack of due diligence needed to start the ball rolling on spying on a political campaign. McCabe said he thought Trump might be a Russian agent as recently as this summer.
                  You're not saying that FISA warrants were issued against Manaford, Flynn and Popodopolous, are you? Because that didn't occur. What did occur was that the FBI was conducting a legitimate investigation, as Horowitz found. So the investigation was legitimate and necessary.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    See Snowflake not 100% accurate. This spying occurred on 4 people it turned out. Flynn, Manafort, Page and Popodopolous. The spying started this whole thing. The spying came first, when Trump found out he started chopping heads, Comey was first, then McCabe. Sessions and Rosenstien didn't have the guts to end it. There would have been no Muller if the spying didn't occur, because Comey's firing concerned Rosenstien so he initiated a special counsel, even though there was insufficient evidence to start the spying in the first place. In the end Muller found nothing. Trump was right all along and the whole thing was everyone's waste of time.

                    All kidding aside what is scary to me is the small amount of evidence and the lack of due diligence needed to start the ball rolling on spying on a political campaign. McCabe said he thought Trump might be a Russian agent as recently as this summer.
                    They were initially spying on Manafort, who was on the take in Ukraine for several years working with ousted Ukrainian president Yanukovitch. When Manafort became Trumps campaign manager that raised eyebrows - justifiably so it turns out

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      You're not saying that FISA warrants were issued against Manaford, Flynn and Popodopolous, are you? Because that didn't occur. What did occur was that the FBI was conducting a legitimate investigation, as Horowitz found. So the investigation was legitimate and necessary.
                      Don't bother. Cons will spin this to to their graves, like Benghazi, Obama's birth certificate, Seth Rich's death and other favorite conspiracy theories.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So very wrong it's absurd. What you're saying about Durham is what the republicans (and you) have been saying about the Horowitz report:



                        “And when Attorney General Barr and Mr. Horowitz release that report in approximately a month, I think we are going to see additional criminal referrals with [Andrew] McCabe getting another referral, Comey a referral, [Peter] Strzok and [Lisa] Page, James Baker, possibly Bruce Ohr and other people who we haven't even meant as household names yet will have criminal referrals. And I think what we're going to see, Gregg, is in March or April of next year, James Comey, Andy McCabe, Strzok and Paige will be on trial for the crimes they committed against the Fourth Amendment and against this president.” -- Corey Lewindowsky

                        “You have a FISA report coming out, and which the word is, it’s historic. That’s what the word is, that’s what I hear. And if it’s historic you’re going to see something.” --Donal Trump

                        Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, Trump noted that the release of the FISA report is "coming out soon" and will shed light on a "corrupt election." Trump said he believes the string of misconduct "goes right up" to his predecessor, former President Barack Obama. -- Donald Trump, Washington Examiner 10.19.19

                        Fox News' Chris Wallace said on air that the IG report headline should be "it didn't find the things that Bill Barr and Donald Trump alleged."


                        The inspector general’s report was going to pull back the curtain, reveal the truth, and explain that the whole Russia investigation could genuinely be dismissed as an illegal witch hunt. The report was going to provide Trump with hard evidence against James Comey, against Andrew McCabe, against Peter Strzok, against everyone who had ever had the gall to actually investigate Trump’s open, public outreach to Vladimir Putin.

                        Except it didn’t. Instead. the inspector general found that the FBI had had more than adequate reason to open the investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russia. It found that all of the people who have populated thousands of Trump tweets over the last years—Comey, McCabe, and agents up and down the line—acted without political intent, out of concern over national security. Horowitz’s report didn’t just fail to find any of the conspiracies that Trump and Barr had been touting; it also laid to rest any idea that there is anything, anything, behind those claims.
                        you need to read more than the first page
                        it found 17 separate misdeeds by the very FBI agents you cite that led to the investigation- this reprot was damming to the FBI and its leadership most of all
                        then take into account that Horowitz has no legal power to compel anyone to testify,and he also cant talk to anyone outside of DOJ
                        while true he didn't get anyone to admit to political bias he also laid the groundwork or the cornerstone for Durham
                        cant wait for that to drop-he has already empaneled a grand jury- you don't do that for nothing

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You're not saying that FISA warrants were issued against Manaford, Flynn and Popodopolous, are you? Because that didn't occur. What did occur was that the FBI was conducting a legitimate investigation, as Horowitz found. So the investigation was legitimate and necessary.
                          the FISA warrants were based on a total lie so that makes them and anything gained from them dog chit

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                            Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Don't bother. Cons will spin this to to their graves, like Benghazi, Obama's birth certificate, Seth Rich's death and other favorite conspiracy theories.
                            sorry amigo, spinning is your domain...too bad you are not good at it.

                            1) Bengazi was a total ball drop for obama and hillary...American Soldiers died because of this.
                            2) Seth Rich is just one of i think 50 something people directly linked to the Clintons who died suspiciously yet no further investigations were conducted? 1 or 2 maybe how can there be 50 something?
                            3) Obamas birth certificate ok, its online and his 2 terms are completed.

                            Keeping it real, why don't you?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              sorry amigo, spinning is your domain...too bad you are not good at it.

                              1) Bengazi was a total ball drop for obama and hillary...American Soldiers died because of this.
                              2) Seth Rich is just one of i think 50 something people directly linked to the Clintons who died suspiciously yet no further investigations were conducted? 1 or 2 maybe how can there be 50 something?
                              3) Obamas birth certificate ok, its online and his 2 terms are completed.

                              Keeping it real, why don't you?
                              right on cue. you must get dizzy A LOT.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                sorry amigo, spinning is your domain...too bad you are not good at it.

                                1) Bengazi was a total ball drop for obama and hillary...American Soldiers died because of this.
                                2) Seth Rich is just one of i think 50 something people directly linked to the Clintons who died suspiciously yet no further investigations were conducted? 1 or 2 maybe how can there be 50 something?
                                3) Obamas birth certificate ok, its online and his 2 terms are completed.

                                Keeping it real, why don't you?
                                Responding to a previous post saying not to bother.

                                You were right. Just shows you that all of the Benghazi investigations that found nothing means nothing to these lemmings. Just keep investigating your political rivals (but not Trump, of course) until someone finds something. Didn't work with Benghazi and the investigation didn't find fault with Clinton or Obama, but they say whatever they want. So sad what has become of the republican party.

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