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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You are high putting Trump in the same conversation as those historical leaders.
    my point exactly
    those historically significant leaders were thought of the same at their time in History- its only AFTER their time that their significance plays out either favorably or not- thats why its called HISTORY
    I purposely used generally positive figures but all of the same could be thought of Stalin,Mao,Pol Pot,Hitler all were loved until they weren't
    Obama was beloved but it will be another 20 years before we know if he actually was a good president or bad or simply just the first Black president- my guess is if all he is remembered for was his race even he would consider that failure

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      No it won't be short lived. He's ticked off every trading partner in the world. In a global economy they have other options.
      No they don't. US dwarfs any country in terms of foreign bought goods. US holes the cards.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        No it won't be short lived. He's ticked off every trading partner in the world. In a global economy they have other options.
        of course they are ticked off-they are about to lose their golden goose
        they dont have other options-if they did why would they be mad? its a global economy ,but the producers in that economy know who are the purchasers(and there aren't an infinite number of them and the pie doesn't grow)
        its not the rest of the worlds fault that the US ( thinking we would always be a dominant #1 economy in the world) made poorly crafted trade deals. its their fault they got used to us keeping those deals, and the time has come for the reckoning. they enjoyed them for 50 years and they dont want to give them up ,but in the end (soon) they can either level the trading field or watch their economies get cut in half

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          No it won't be short lived. He's ticked off every trading partner in the world. In a global economy they have other options.
          China saw the tariffs coming and bought an amazing amount of soybeans prior to implementation (smart move) drove up the soybean price which was great for us but the plan was to be able to hold out for a while and squeeze us
          well they havent squeezed us yet and they need to buy more Soybeans-what now Mr Roboto?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Don't be daft wage growth is for existing jobs,. Of course someone who was unemployed before is better off than before. But only if he's being paid a decent wage. The rate job additions to the economy is slowing down. Real wage growth (pay minus inflation) is actually down (housing, gas, insurance is all driving up costs). This was posted elsewhere "So far, only 18 of the companies in the S&P 500 stock index have cited the tax cuts in announcing additional pay of any kind. Only five of those companies — all banks — announced a true wage hike, lifting hourly wages to at least $15 an hour. The rest are offering workers a one-time bonus (typically of $1,000) or a modest amount of additional money in a retirement plan."

            In the long run might we get real, substantive wage growth? Maybe but only if the economy keeps growing without heating up inflation too much. Trump recently admonished the Fed for trying to tamper inflation. So far wage growth isn't playing out that way, despite Trumps claims to the contrary. Also many tax preparers have been warming people to check their withholding - they may be pleased with a modest pay bump so far but the changing tax tables may bite them in the azz next April. Other changes in the tax code will also hit people next April, like lower of SALT deductions. CT is going to have a lot of really unhappy people next April.
            “ decent wage”
            “ living wage “ in another post.
            Just what does that mean ? What are the definitions of those terms ?

            Once again, looking at just statistics for the true measurement disregards other contributing factors. While some items may have increased in price, and commodity items normally fluctuate , you forget about the advances that have brought the cost of other items down.
            Technology ? The computer called a smartphone in your pocket, how does it compare to a cellphone 5 years ago? 10 ?How much is that wide screen TV compared to 2, 4, or 6 years ago ? How about a microwave? On and on. You pay more for a car but it may very well be built for 200,000 miles if you choose wisely. Change the Oil when required , and compare that to the cost of operating a car 10 years, or for even a bigger shock, 30 years ago.
            Anyone that thinks that having a higher standard of living comes without a cost is disconnected from reality.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              No it won't be short lived. He's ticked off every trading partner in the world. In a global economy they have other options.
              The OP wss right. It will be short lived. They are far more beholden to our dollars than you think. If our industries suffer they get killed even worse and they will give in until the trade wars balance a little mote in our favor. Better still would be if American facrories struggling to cimpete with cheap foreign labor convert to fill a much meeded commodity which helps labor hear and the induatries it supports and puts an even bigger sting into the tariffa for foreign competitora ..... But I dont think they will last this long before foreign goverments relent on several fronts in our favor.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                “ decent wage”
                “ living wage “ in another post.
                Just what does that mean ? What are the definitions of those terms ?

                Once again, looking at just statistics for the true measurement disregards other contributing factors. While some items may have increased in price, and commodity items normally fluctuate , you forget about the advances that have brought the cost of other items down.
                Technology ? The computer called a smartphone in your pocket, how does it compare to a cellphone 5 years ago? 10 ?How much is that wide screen TV compared to 2, 4, or 6 years ago ? How about a microwave? On and on. You pay more for a car but it may very well be built for 200,000 miles if you choose wisely. Change the Oil when required , and compare that to the cost of operating a car 10 years, or for even a bigger shock, 30 years ago.
                Anyone that thinks that having a higher standard of living comes without a cost is disconnected from reality.
                the next question is

                is having a cell phone a Right or a luxury?
                health insurance has been deemed a right by the left is a cell phone,a car, a TV.
                , a computer? maybe a 2nd car, a guy to mow your lawn, a fresh coat of paint every 5 years
                a manipedi every 6 weeks?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The OP wss right. It will be short lived. They are far more beholden to our dollars than you think. If our industries suffer they get killed even worse and they will give in until the trade wars balance a little mote in our favor. Better still would be if American facrories struggling to cimpete with cheap foreign labor convert to fill a much meeded commodity which helps labor hear and the induatries it supports and puts an even bigger sting into the tariffa for foreign competitora ..... But I dont think they will last this long before foreign goverments relent on several fronts in our favor.
                  they already are- notice the line of foreign leaders lined up to deal with Trump
                  they are all trying to get their best deal F their friends(competitors)
                  mexicos new guy seems eager to redo the deal

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    the next question is

                    is having a cell phone a Right or a luxury?
                    health insurance has been deemed a right by the left is a cell phone,a car, a TV.
                    , a computer? maybe a 2nd car, a guy to mow your lawn, a fresh coat of paint every 5 years
                    a manipedi every 6 weeks?
                    https://www.fcc.gov/general/lifeline...come-consumers

                    A right obviously. Paid for by those who work and pay full price plus a “tax” so hood rats can have a phone to call their baby mamas and keep in touch with drug dealers

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      https://www.fcc.gov/general/lifeline...come-consumers

                      A right obviously. Paid for by those who work and pay full price plus a “tax” so hood rats can have a phone to call their baby mamas and keep in touch with drug dealers
                      Funny, this never happens at the Norwegian festival. Ever go to the Caribbean festival in nyc? Probably not. No one goes except people from those sheet hole countries that came to America to take advantage of welfare programs.

                      https://nypost.com/2018/08/12/ten-pe...al-in-england/

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The impact on the auto industry is going to be substantial. The tariffs will result in large price increases ($1500-$5000 depending on brand and model), which leads to falling demand. That leads to layoffs at suppliers, auto transport companies, car dealerships...

                        "LMC Automotive last month estimated a 25 percent tariff would reduce U.S. auto sales by 1 million annually. That’s without factoring in the downturn in the American car market that began last year, the first slide in sales since the end of the Great Recession. The Association of Global Automakers last week predicted that “hundreds of thousands of American jobs” are at risk, while the Japanese government estimated that a minimum 200,000 U.S. workers linked to “transplant” factories, dealerships and other facilities operated by Japanese auto brands could lose their jobs. And the Japanese report said that number could climb as high as 624,000 if it and other trade partners choose to retaliate — an increasing likelihood. The larger figure comes from a separate study conducted by the Peterson Institute for International Economics." https://www.nbcnews.com/business/aut...motors-n888361

                        Other are already feeling the pinch - we already know about Harley moving to Europe to avoid their retaliatory tariffs. Even smaller companies are starting to get hit. https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-losses-2018-8. Small and midsized companies have a harder time absorbing cost increases or shifting production quickly. https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.0af66d657d80. He's already bailing out farmers (to keep their votes). He can't bail out everyone.
                        Please update this list on Wikipedia

                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...alyptic_events

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Except that many companies don't pay a living wage. Many beneficiaries are the working poor. Nor do companies provide for their workers. They manipulate hours so that they're not full time and don't have to provide healthcare. Pensions have gone the way of the horse and buggy. More of the workforce is going independent contractor each year with no safety nets. Nice pay and benefit packages are for the corporate suite only.

                          As for corporate taxes, before the cut the sated rate was higher than some other countries BUT with all the tax breaks and loopholes almost no one paid 35%; some could get their real rate down close to zero. Those loopholes are still there and now the rate is lower. The result will be less money in the coffer in the long run. Combined with lower revenue from high wealth individuals the deficit will sky rocket. Any drag on the economy (which could result from tarriffs and some of his other dumb-azz moves) also means less coming in. You want infrastructure, the stupid wall. The money has to pay for it.
                          Don’t pay a decent wage?
                          You don’t know what your talking about. For those who are value add to a company, they get a decent wage. Those that aren’t don’t.
                          Real life example for you. I work at a small company here in ct. we have summer interns. We pay them 15 bucks an hour. Are you telling me that is not a decent wage for on the job training for the summer? Same company for full time employees. We pay 100% of the premium for the basic healthcare program. Now, there is a 2500 deductible, so the first 2500 of medical expenses is on you and we don’t pay for all your defendants, but the fact is, the employee is covered and can buy up and cover dependents if they choose. Why do you think it is a company’s responsibility to even pay for your health insurance? Such a sense of entitlement.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Don’t pay a decent wage?
                            You don’t know what your talking about. For those who are value add to a company, they get a decent wage. Those that aren’t don’t.
                            Real life example for you. I work at a small company here in ct. we have summer interns. We pay them 15 bucks an hour. Are you telling me that is not a decent wage for on the job training for the summer? Same company for full time employees. We pay 100% of the premium for the basic healthcare program. Now, there is a 2500 deductible, so the first 2500 of medical expenses is on you and we don’t pay for all your defendants, but the fact is, the employee is covered and can buy up and cover dependents if they choose. Why do you think it is a company’s responsibility to even pay for your health insurance? Such a sense of entitlement.
                            Service sector jobs pay $10-11 an hour. Fast food jobs used to be for teenagers. Now it's primarily adults. That is not a liveable wage for an adult. Real wages in the US have not risen in years.

                            You're such the typical TS poster - can't see past their own personal experience to investigate what is happening on a larger scale. Your plan is not at all typical of what many workers receive. If you dare work for yourself or small company ACA plans are very unaffordable with huge deductibles and out of pocket. ACA had many flaws but now Trump is completely stripping it down until no one can afford it and is replacing it with crappie plans that don't cover anything. Where was that great insurance plan he promised?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Don’t pay a decent wage?
                              You don’t know what your talking about. For those who are value add to a company, they get a decent wage. Those that aren’t don’t.
                              Real life example for you. I work at a small company here in ct. we have summer interns. We pay them 15 bucks an hour. Are you telling me that is not a decent wage for on the job training for the summer? Same company for full time employees. We pay 100% of the premium for the basic healthcare program. Now, there is a 2500 deductible, so the first 2500 of medical expenses is on you and we don’t pay for all your defendants, but the fact is, the employee is covered and can buy up and cover dependents if they choose. Why do you think it is a company’s responsibility to even pay for your health insurance? Such a sense of entitlement.
                              I keep forgetting that every single company is exactly like your hypothetical small company in Connecticut. You're so right. Nothing to see here. All is well.
                              Forget.


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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Service sector jobs pay $10-11 an hour. Fast food jobs used to be for teenagers. Now it's primarily adults. That is not a liveable wage for an adult. Real wages in the US have not risen in years.

                                You're such the typical TS poster - can't see past their own personal experience to investigate what is happening on a larger scale. Your plan is not at all typical of what many workers receive. If you dare work for yourself or small company ACA plans are very unaffordable with huge deductibles and out of pocket. ACA had many flaws but now Trump is completely stripping it down until no one can afford it and is replacing it with crappie plans that don't cover anything. Where was that great insurance plan he promised?
                                Real simple. Do something people value. Not very difficult. Learn a trade, have skills that are valued by employers. When what you know or do is valuable there is competition for your services and people are willing or required to pay more. Or continue to get paid shyte because you are easily replaced and have very little value.

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