CIAC will pause all fall sports activities until Aug 24

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Thats fine, be angry, again that is your choice. I am for freedom of choice. I am vaxed, i get it but we cant allow our govt to force mandates like this. Now some have taken this idea waaaaaaaay too far right just as others have taken this waaaaaaaay too far left. We would like to think that people would just do whats right but in the end there is so much that comes in to that. I would love to be in a position where my choices would be best for society but I cant. I have a family so my choices are for them, unfortunately, I could care less about your circumstances and what you want or what you think.

Its a slippery slope when we start allowing the govt to make these kind of choices for us....whats next?

It's also a very slippery slope if you don't have laws and people following - chaos in fact.

And you'd be singing a different tune if you or a loved one badly needed an ER bed but unvaccinated Covid patients were taking them all up.

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i certainly wouldnt be singing a different tune, people who have been vax even boostered some still needed to go to hosp and some still even died, so spare me about the unvaxxed. That argument simply doesnt work, when the vax was only designed to keep people from getting really really sick or dying and yet people who are vaxed are still getting sick, still transmitting it and still in some cases dying. The vax is a bandaid, its not a solution

Does the vax work in the way that was told to us, yes the numbers seem to suggest it does. BUT you cannot sit there with a straight face and say its ok for another to tell you what to put in your body. And again, I say that as being somebody who is vax.

Also, yes we live in a country of Laws------and people have the choice to follow them or not. Isnt crime up these days? yet we still have laws. Our choices have consequences but its still our choice.

Choice is key!

If a person who is unvaxxed and doesnt wear a mask and goes out, i dont know anywhere, a bar, a restaurant, a family gathering and gets sick, or gets really sick, or gets really sick and needs hosp or gets really sick and dies. I dont get angry or disgusted, I say, wow they seemed to have made a stupid choice-----again their choice

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He isnt right or wrong. I think what he is simply saying is that its your choice and that choice may or may not have a negative consequence. You have that same choice.

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i certainly wouldnt be singing a different tune, people who have been vax even boostered some still needed to go to hosp and some still even died, so spare me about the unvaxxed. That argument simply doesnt work, when the vax was only designed to keep people from getting really really sick or dying and yet people who are vaxed are still getting sick, still transmitting it and still in some cases dying. The vax is a bandaid, its not a solution

Does the vax work in the way that was told to us, yes the numbers seem to suggest it does. BUT you cannot sit there with a straight face and say its ok for another to tell you what to put in your body. And again, I say that as being somebody who is vax.

Also, yes we live in a country of Laws------and people have the choice to follow them or not. Isnt crime up these days? yet we still have laws. Our choices have consequences but its still our choice.

Choice is key!

If a person who is unvaxxed and doesnt wear a mask and goes out, i dont know anywhere, a bar, a restaurant, a family gathering and gets sick, or gets really sick, or gets really sick and needs hosp or gets really sick and dies. I dont get angry or disgusted, I say, wow they seemed to have made a stupid choice-----again their choice

Heart attacks, strokes, traffic accidents didn't drop during the pandemic. Very few vaccinated people wound up in the hospital; on average 10% or less of hospitalized Covid patients were vaccinated

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sure it's their choice. but their choice limits healthcare for others. the unvaccinated and fat people also should have to pay higher insurance rates if the refuse to get vaccinated or take control of their health, just like smokers do. the rest of us shouldn't have to subsidize their poor choices

Let the risk management people of the insurance world sharpen their pencils and do the math then on covid and its impact on hospitizations and deaths without conjecture and hearsay (like the government and scientists should have done) .... the burden will fall on older americans and those with specific comorbidites ...... I have zero doubt that rates for 99.98% of everyone under 65 will not change. There is simply no need for any healthy person under 50 to get vaxxed. The risk is just too low or nonexistent.

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i certainly wouldnt be singing a different tune, people who have been vax even boostered some still needed to go to hosp and some still even died, so spare me about the unvaxxed. That argument simply doesnt work, when the vax was only designed to keep people from getting really really sick or dying and yet people who are vaxed are still getting sick, still transmitting it and still in some cases dying. The vax is a bandaid, its not a solution

Does the vax work in the way that was told to us, yes the numbers seem to suggest it does. BUT you cannot sit there with a straight face and say its ok for another to tell you what to put in your body. And again, I say that as being somebody who is vax.

Also, yes we live in a country of Laws------and people have the choice to follow them or not. Isnt crime up these days? yet we still have laws. Our choices have consequences but its still our choice.

Choice is key!

If a person who is unvaxxed and doesnt wear a mask and goes out, i dont know anywhere, a bar, a restaurant, a family gathering and gets sick, or gets really sick, or gets really sick and needs hosp or gets really sick and dies. I dont get angry or disgusted, I say, wow they seemed to have made a stupid choice-----again their choice

So happy we have a government to control your "choices". What a barberic point of view...

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Wrong. Even "bad" flu years don't even top 100K. Most average years are 25-40K. That translates to a mortality rate of .1 to .2%, not even the 1.4% you've been citing as the rate for Covid. Literally Covid is 10x greater. Over two years we've lost 500K a year https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

How many of the COVID-reported deaths had COVID as the primary cause vs the person was positive?

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i certainly wouldnt be singing a different tune, people who have been vax even boostered some still needed to go to hosp and some still even died, so spare me about the unvaxxed. That argument simply doesnt work, when the vax was only designed to keep people from getting really really sick or dying and yet people who are vaxed are still getting sick, still transmitting it and still in some cases dying. The vax is a bandaid, its not a solution

Does the vax work in the way that was told to us, yes the numbers seem to suggest it does. BUT you cannot sit there with a straight face and say its ok for another to tell you what to put in your body. And again, I say that as being somebody who is vax.

Also, yes we live in a country of Laws------and people have the choice to follow them or not. Isnt crime up these days? yet we still have laws. Our choices have consequences but its still our choice.

Choice is key!

If a person who is unvaxxed and doesnt wear a mask and goes out, i dont know anywhere, a bar, a restaurant, a family gathering and gets sick, or gets really sick, or gets really sick and needs hosp or gets really sick and dies. I dont get angry or disgusted, I say, wow they seemed to have made a stupid choice-----again their choice

What if their "stupid choice" kills your loved one? You also would not get angry or disgusted and say "wow, they made a stupid choice"?...

The point of restrictions to control their stupid choices that can have consequences on all of us.

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So happy we have a government to control your "choices". What a barberic point of view...

easy drama queen

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What if their "stupid choice" kills your loved one? You also would not get angry or disgusted and say "wow, they made a stupid choice"?...

The point of restrictions to control their stupid choices that can have consequences on all of us.

quite the leap you made there...how would that happen exactly?

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How many of the COVID-reported deaths had COVID as the primary cause vs the person was positive?

Sorry but nearly 1M deaths aren't an over count, doesn't matter how much you want to believe it

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How many of the COVID-reported deaths had COVID as the primary cause vs the person was positive?

Sadly, Americans may never now. So much information has been politicized, buried, not allowed to be let out , it is unprecedented. The First Amendment has been compromised by MSM, Big Tech, and even those supposedly in charge of the Government response. Too much money , power , influence and control involved , it was, and is, the perfect storm for forces to take advantage of a crisis. .
It could only have occurred at this time, in this environment, under these circumstances.

Doubters can look to the 1669-70 Flu epidemic here in America. The American population was 2/3 less, the expected life expectancy 10 years less, the Medical / Hospital “ industry “ significantly less , and less influential. No masks, no lockdowns, the majority of schools stayed open. No mandates, so no law suits ,demonstrations and the SCOTUS didn’t even have to get involved. Yet 120,000 Americans died. Those that lived through it barely noticed, even in major metropolitan areas.

What I suspect, from research , the real cumulative deaths from COVID itself in America is most likely around 400,000. That would put it in a similar category of the 1969/70 Flu epidemic, when one looks at deaths above and near expected life expectancy at this time in comparisons. . Obesity rates were nearly half. People had 50 less years of cumulative junk and processed foods in their diets that have weakened their immune systems, That’s a scientific fact.
Less than cancer deaths actually. There have been widespread and significant lies from day one, especially from those who assert to be the experts.

Drop the masks in school, stay healthy , get more fresh air and live your life.

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Where Crack Pipe Con?

No, the federal government isn’t spending $30 million on ‘crack pipes’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...pe-fact-check/

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Where Crack Pipe Con?

No, the federal government isn’t spending $30 million on ‘crack pipes’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...pe-fact-check/

I bet it would be far cheaper just to provide them with fentanyl.

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Where Crack Pipe Con?

No, the federal government isn’t spending $30 million on ‘crack pipes’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...pe-fact-check/

wonder why they included that quote from Humphries in your link
seems that they were trying to provide the pipes and got bagged so they pulled them

read past the headline - the truth is in the middle