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How many times has CDC lied?
BTW I bet you still use a condom because of Zika right?
That’s CDC guidance.
How is this. In 1985 the CDC prohibits gay men from blood donation.
Do you know when they finally fixed that?
2015
30 years to correct course

Some people cannot grasp science. You're one of those people.

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How many times has CDC lied?
BTW I bet you still use a condom because of Zika right?
That’s CDC guidance.
How is this. In 1985 the CDC prohibits gay men from blood donation.
Do you know when they finally fixed that?
2015
30 years to correct course

Did you know the US government offered public films that said radioactive fallout was ok and that people exposed (such as those in Hiroshima) made full recoveries. Reality is that they had little idea yet, but needed to calm public panic over the growing threat of nuclear war. Having simple, practical steps (cover your mouth when coughing, wash your hands, etc.) to have the public use to address helps calm. Much of what you see is an attempt to manage society emotions while the data comes in. It takes months for one proper study to be completed and you often need multiple observations to build scientific community conviction.

Now i think they adjusted the guidance on Zika a few years ago to be that “only YOU should wear a condom”. It’s probably because of your lack of understanding how scientific theories move to laws and the role of experiments and white papers. I think I learned that in 9th science in a rural school in the 1990’s. Not exactly exclusive and new knowledge.

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Some people cannot grasp science. You're one of those people.

Kind of like how only medical grade masks work so don't bother, then wear masks with little to no real studies?

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Kind of like how only medical grade masks work so don't bother, then wear masks with little to no real studies?

2 weeks to flatten the curve .... Little to no difference for state infection rates with shut downs vs hose without ..... Herd immunity ..... Don't Use those cocktails for treatment ..... Use cocktails for treatment ...... I know there are several more. Unless the government or anyone else cites cites at least 2 reputable, independent research articles with their bold claims, then they are just quelling or placating someone with rhetoric. I personally believe that the vaccines are great and highly effective but I am sick of hearing the govt say soany different things frequently and then reverse their course ..... My trust in their knowledge and expertise has severely waind over the last 18 months and I wish they would shut up until they can provide 2 reputable citations with their guesses. They are shooting themselves in the foot and appear to defy or support whatever our president says depending on who holds the position .... There I no place for politics in science. That vaccines should have been released last October and that alone speaks volumes.

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2 weeks to flatten the curve .... Little to no difference for state infection rates with shut downs vs hose without ..... Herd immunity ..... Don't Use those cocktails for treatment ..... Use cocktails for treatment ...... I know there are several more. Unless the government or anyone else cites cites at least 2 reputable, independent research articles with their bold claims, then they are just quelling or placating someone with rhetoric. I personally believe that the vaccines are great and highly effective but I am sick of hearing the govt say soany different things frequently and then reverse their course ..... My trust in their knowledge and expertise has severely waind over the last 18 months and I wish they would shut up until they can provide 2 reputable citations with their guesses. They are shooting themselves in the foot and appear to defy or support whatever our president says depending on who holds the position .... There I no place for politics in science. That vaccines should have been released last October and that alone speaks volumes.

They weren't ready to be released. The pharmaceutical companies and FDA were still pulling together data. It was Trump who was pushing and whining because he thought it would save his campaign. Talk about politicization. As it was there were concerns about his pushing for corners to be cut, and just how safe and efficacious they are.

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They weren't ready to be released. The pharmaceutical companies and FDA were still pulling together data. It was Trump who was pushing and whining because he thought it would save his campaign. Talk about politicization. As it was there were concerns about his pushing for corners to be cut, and just how safe and efficacious they are.

BS they were ready during the first week of October but the govt agencies kept putting off convening to ratify them until after the election. No more BS.

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BS they were ready during the first week of October but the govt agencies kept putting off convening to ratify them until after the election. No more BS.

Keep telling yourself that it was a vast conspiracy so Trump would lose. It wasn't. He lost for many reasons including his terrible response to Covid. Vaccines wouldn't have saved him.

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Keep telling yourself that it was a vast conspiracy so Trump would lose. It wasn't. He lost for many reasons including his terrible response to Covid. Vaccines wouldn't have saved him.

It certainly was. He will never have a vaccine ready by the end of the year, let alone the election .... was accomplished. Thank you President Trump. Never would have happened under this shut down administration, paying people to stay home rather than work.

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Keep telling yourself that it was a vast conspiracy so Trump would lose. It wasn't. He lost for many reasons including his terrible response to Covid. Vaccines wouldn't have saved him.

you can hate Trump-thats OK and there were many reasons for not voting for him
BUT if joe or Obama or Bush were in the white house when this started we still wouldnt have a vax

Trump did what Trump does best he looked at it as a business with a time line- and he broke through all the red tape he could to fast track it- politicians have no idea how to do that

the conspiracy was the nightly barrage of death rates and the commentary of negativity about the vaccine- joe, kamala and andrew included. In the end Trump was right and did what they said couldnt be done
joe is contributing to this new spike by dismantling the border- tha Delta and lambda variants come from the southern continent and that border security is more important than ever- the fact that they arent vaccinating everyone they catch just shows how unserious they are about this- no crisis at the border and no vax crisis for illegals- but Americans must get vaxed

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you can hate Trump-thats OK and there were many reasons for not voting for him
BUT if joe or Obama or Bush were in the white house when this started we still wouldnt have a vax

Trump did what Trump does best he looked at it as a business with a time line- and he broke through all the red tape he could to fast track it- politicians have no idea how to do that

the conspiracy was the nightly barrage of death rates and the commentary of negativity about the vaccine- joe, kamala and andrew included. In the end Trump was right and did what they said couldnt be done
joe is contributing to this new spike by dismantling the border- tha Delta and lambda variants come from the southern continent and that border security is more important than ever- the fact that they arent vaccinating everyone they catch just shows how unserious they are about this- no crisis at the border and no vax crisis for illegals- but Americans must get vaxed

He gambled and preproduced vaccines hoping they would work. It's one of the rare times one of his gambles paid off. Other than that and throwing money at it, it's all he did - and one of the companies didn't take any money. Then once they got approved there was almost no plan in place for distribution.

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He gambled and preproduced vaccines hoping they would work. It's one of the rare times one of his gambles paid off. Other than that and throwing money at it, it's all he did - and one of the companies didn't take any money. Then once they got approved there was almost no plan in place for distribution.

Except that he had the major package carriers (Fedex and UPS) and the Army setting up and carrying out the logistics (which Biden harped on but then admittedly kept with just a small amount of tweaking once it ramped up) .... other than that, next to nothing.

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Except that he had the major package carriers (Fedex and UPS) and the Army setting up and carrying out the logistics (which Biden harped on but then admittedly kept with just a small amount of tweaking once it ramped up) .... other than that, next to nothing.

Trump promises:

100M in September
20M end of December


Trump reality
Jan 1 2021 = 3.5M doses

Why? No planning past getting it out the door. They should have been planning for MONTHS while vaccines were in development.


"How did we end up here? The Trump administration’s lack of leadership, incoherent strategic planning and poor attention to detail have created foundational barriers to getting vaccines distributed at scale. The unfocused, patchwork approach President Donald Trump has helped foster means vaccine distribution has been functionally outsourced to individual states, creating significant discrepancies in who is prioritized for vaccine eligibility. This has also entailed major breaks from Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations.

National recommendations from the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) have outlined the following priority groups for initial vaccine distribution: first, health care personnel and residents at long-term care facilities, followed second by essential front-line workers outside of health care and people 75 and older.

However, due to the abdication of the federal government’s responsibility to oversee distribution, every state and territory have ultimately been left to develop their own approaches to vaccine distribution — including defining their own priority groups. As in so many other instances with our response to the pandemic, this is leading to significant inconsistencies in how Americans living in different parts of the country have been affected.

"The lack of a clear federal approach has also meant that the actual delivery of vaccinations has cascaded down to public health departments without adequate preparedness or vitally required support. Public health agencies at the state and local levels are chronically underdeveloped and underfunded. In some counties, there is not even a local public health department, leaving much of this work to fall to the state. Such limitations have been widely characterized for years and are well known. Despite this, as the pandemic has progressed, inadequate attention has been paid to how distribution would actually get done at the local level."
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/trump-...worse-n1252735



In fact the Dems wanted more $ in the stimulus package for local agencies and states for vaccine distribution and the GOP fought it.

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Trump promises:

100M in September
20M end of December


Trump reality
Jan 1 2021 = 3.5M doses

Why? No planning past getting it out the door. They should have been planning for MONTHS while vaccines were in development.


"How did we end up here? The Trump administration’s lack of leadership, incoherent strategic planning and poor attention to detail have created foundational barriers to getting vaccines distributed at scale. The unfocused, patchwork approach President Donald Trump has helped foster means vaccine distribution has been functionally outsourced to individual states, creating significant discrepancies in who is prioritized for vaccine eligibility. This has also entailed major breaks from Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations.

National recommendations from the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) have outlined the following priority groups for initial vaccine distribution: first, health care personnel and residents at long-term care facilities, followed second by essential front-line workers outside of health care and people 75 and older.

However, due to the abdication of the federal government’s responsibility to oversee distribution, every state and territory have ultimately been left to develop their own approaches to vaccine distribution — including defining their own priority groups. As in so many other instances with our response to the pandemic, this is leading to significant inconsistencies in how Americans living in different parts of the country have been affected.

"The lack of a clear federal approach has also meant that the actual delivery of vaccinations has cascaded down to public health departments without adequate preparedness or vitally required support. Public health agencies at the state and local levels are chronically underdeveloped and underfunded. In some counties, there is not even a local public health department, leaving much of this work to fall to the state. Such limitations have been widely characterized for years and are well known. Despite this, as the pandemic has progressed, inadequate attention has been paid to how distribution would actually get done at the local level."
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/trump-...worse-n1252735



In fact the Dems wanted more $ in the stimulus package for local agencies and states for vaccine distribution and the GOP fought it.

You know the vaccines was developed and tested in about 7onths right? You also know that production cannot b ramped up overnight and that over Tim production can increase rapidly .... But it takes time. Shut down Joe and the Hoe wouldn't have had this vaccine signed sealed and delivered still!

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You know the vaccines was developed and tested in about 7onths right? You also know that production cannot b ramped up overnight and that over Tim production can increase rapidly .... But it takes time. Shut down Joe and the Hoe wouldn't have had this vaccine signed sealed and delivered still!

Big brain never came up with any of the vaccine stuff. He was still in denial that this was problem. Actual hero’s in his administration took the risks on building the response and gave him enough info to gain approval. I imagine that once all is said and done Trump will have personally profited from this in some way, which is the only way it got through. Remember he did not view this pandemic as real until several months in and when all states chose to close.

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You know the vaccines was developed and tested in about 7onths right? You also know that production cannot b ramped up overnight and that over Tim production can increase rapidly .... But it takes time. Shut down Joe and the Hoe wouldn't have had this vaccine signed sealed and delivered still!

Yes the business mogul who's leveraged to the hilt and bankrupts everything he touches got the vaccine done. Nice fairy tale incel.