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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Please name one good coach on boys side. At least coaches on girls side could say team made playoffs boys side can’t. Both older boys DA teams were under 500 for their respective records. KB is crap along with his staff Uncle Tom and Bipolar Boy.
    How much of that record is the responsibility of the coaches? How much is the responsibility of the players? Could it be that the program simply doesn't have players at the caliber of the other clubs? HOw can you put it entirely on the coaches without proof that the talent level between the clubs is essentially the same?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      How much of that record is the responsibility of the coaches? How much is the responsibility of the players? Could it be that the program simply doesn't have players at the caliber of the other clubs? HOw can you put it entirely on the coaches without proof that the talent level between the clubs is essentially the same?

      coaches dictate style of play, line ups, strategy for games. sure kids have to perform but if coaches continue to play same players and get terrible results and not make changes with lineups then majority of blame should go to coaches. playing time should be earned and based on how the player is performing in practice. I get you find favortism everywhere but Oakwood is a bit over the top with this. The coaches at Oakwood do not practice what they preach.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        How much of that record is the responsibility of the coaches? How much is the responsibility of the players? Could it be that the program simply doesn't have players at the caliber of the other clubs? HOw can you put it entirely on the coaches without proof that the talent level between the clubs is essentially the same?
        Typical of OW blaming their players. They have a history of not developing players then bringing in outside players. Now they can't develop OR recruit new talent? That's on the club.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          How much of that record is the responsibility of the coaches? How much is the responsibility of the players? Could it be that the program simply doesn't have players at the caliber of the other clubs? HOw can you put it entirely on the coaches without proof that the talent level between the clubs is essentially the same?
          Good coaches can cultivate talent and set up the environment for said talent to thrive and excel. To say OW doesn't have talent is shifting the blame. Own it, period. OW staff needs to grow up and accept that they aren't good. There are plenty of CT players going to play for NYCFC and NYRB and doing well. The talent is here. OW is tripping over their own feet and ruining it.

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            Where are the tryout results?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Where are the tryout results?
              Probably some rosters not complete since so many players have left club.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Probably some rosters not complete since so many players have left club.
                Good point, although I’m sure they can fill out the rosters with more suckers from Ginga, Sporting and Rush.

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                  Question Man Responds

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  coaches dictate style of play, line ups, strategy for games. sure kids have to perform but if coaches continue to play same players and get terrible results and not make changes with lineups then majority of blame should go to coaches. playing time should be earned and based on how the player is performing in practice. I get you find favortism everywhere but Oakwood is a bit over the top with this. The coaches at Oakwood do not practice what they preach.
                  Isn't it clear that your assumptions and how you lay responsibility works from the premise that those kids sitting on the bench are as good as those who start? What is your basis for concluding that playing different players will yield different results, if the coach is playing the best players first?

                  How do you know playing time isn't being earned? How do you know the kids who get the bulk of the minutes are not the most deserving from how they perform in training? Are you in attendance at all their training sessions?

                  Do you not realize that all coaches have their favorites? Isn't the issue really about what criteria they use to determine their favorites? Is it wrong to be the favorite if you are the hardest working kid in training? Is it wrong to be the favorite if you play the tactics the coach asks from you? It it wrong to be the favorite if you possess the best skill and the coach believes you the best chance to win the game?

                  Are you suggesting that the coaches at Oakwood use other criteria?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Isn't it clear that your assumptions and how you lay responsibility works from the premise that those kids sitting on the bench are as good as those who start? What is your basis for concluding that playing different players will yield different results, if the coach is playing the best players first?

                    How do you know playing time isn't being earned? How do you know the kids who get the bulk of the minutes are not the most deserving from how they perform in training? Are you in attendance at all their training sessions?

                    Do you not realize that all coaches have their favorites? Isn't the issue really about what criteria they use to determine their favorites? Is it wrong to be the favorite if you are the hardest working kid in training? Is it wrong to be the favorite if you play the tactics the coach asks from you? It it wrong to be the favorite if you possess the best skill and the coach believes you the best chance to win the game?

                    Are you suggesting that the coaches at Oakwood use other criteria?
                    No. #ALL IN !!!!!!

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Typical of OW blaming their players. They have a history of not developing players then bringing in outside players. Now they can't develop OR recruit new talent? That's on the club.
                      Where does "blame" enter into this at all? A team is formed of coaches and players. Everyone has responsibility towards the teams success and everyone is accountable for team challenges and lackluster performance.

                      You continue to live in this fantasy that clubs bear the bulk of responsibility for individual player development and that's simply not true. The coach creates a culture for the player to apply herself, learn and grow. But the player has to find the commitment in herself to want to be better and apply herself effectively within that culture to achieve that.

                      Individual development first and always rests on the shoulders of the player. If the "club" is confident that the coach has created a proper learning environment and after a period of time, players haven't applied themselves well enough to grow as much as needed to keep the team competitive, then by all means, it's time to seek players to replace these.

                      You seek elite level play but expect these regional clubs to have the kind of organizational loyalty to the individual that is more likely a part of a town-based program. Apples and oranges.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Isn't it clear that your assumptions and how you lay responsibility works from the premise that those kids sitting on the bench are as good as those who start? What is your basis for concluding that playing different players will yield different results, if the coach is playing the best players first?

                        How do you know playing time isn't being earned? How do you know the kids who get the bulk of the minutes are not the most deserving from how they perform in training? Are you in attendance at all their training sessions?

                        Do you not realize that all coaches have their favorites? Isn't the issue really about what criteria they use to determine their favorites? Is it wrong to be the favorite if you are the hardest working kid in training? Is it wrong to be the favorite if you play the tactics the coach asks from you? It it wrong to be the favorite if you possess the best skill and the coach believes you the best chance to win the game?
                        Are you suggesting that the coaches at Oakwood use other criteria?
                        You are joking, please tell us you exactly believe the crap you are spewing. Players “favorites” miss practice with no accountability others miss practice not the favorites miss practice either don’t play or not rostered. If you have losing record and play same kids then maybe just maybe coaches are poor judge of talent.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Where does "blame" enter into this at all? A team is formed of coaches and players. Everyone has responsibility towards the teams success and everyone is accountable for team challenges and lackluster performance.

                          You continue to live in this fantasy that clubs bear the bulk of responsibility for individual player development and that's simply not true. The coach creates a culture for the player to apply herself, learn and grow. But the player has to find the commitment in herself to want to be better and apply herself effectively within that culture to achieve that.

                          Individual development first and always rests on the shoulders of the player. If the "club" is confident that the coach has created a proper learning environment and after a period of time, players haven't applied themselves well enough to grow as much as needed to keep the team competitive, then by all means, it's time to seek players to replace these.

                          You seek elite level play but expect these regional clubs to have the kind of organizational loyalty to the individual that is more likely a part of a town-based program. Apples and oranges.
                          Oakwood culture is ****.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Oakwood culture is ****.
                            It’s arrogant, elitist and obnoxious. And the attitude is undeserved.

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                              And Oakwood is behind FSA in college placements as well.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Probably some rosters not complete since so many players have left club.
                                After your check clears

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