Is CFC is the #1 scumbag club in the USA?

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West went 0-8 in the EDP league, scored 1 goal, conceded 25

So is that your definition of being the best? By getting pounded? World class, fsa, and albertson were the only ecnl clubs in the league.

They will get destroyed at the Pre ecnl level, CFCs should at least split the games between the branches.

Whoa. With that kind of record there's hardly a justification to give West anything, let alone the whole shebang. Makes no sense at all. But it's TS so this could all be BS. Agree with poster above that giving both branches tough competition is a good way to build up for CFCU

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YES - CFC are scumbags

West went 0-8 in the EDP league, scored 1 goal, conceded 25

So is that your definition of being the best? By getting pounded? World class, fsa, and albertson were the only ecnl clubs in the league.

They will get destroyed at the Pre ecnl level, CFCs should at least split the games between the branches.

that's all

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Whoa. With that kind of record there's hardly a justification to give West anything, let alone the whole shebang. Makes no sense at all. But it's TS so this could all be BS. Agree with poster above that giving both branches tough competition is a good way to build up for CFCU

It's hard for SD to lobby for his program given that he's preoccupied with another endeavor. West it is.

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It's hard for SD to lobby for his program given that he's preoccupied with another endeavor. West it is.

Lobbying is one thing if the two branches were neck and neck. On paper this makes no sense at all - there's no justification for it.

But there haven't been any Arsenal parents on here bit*Hing yet (and they certainly would if true) so maybe this is just another TS rumor

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U13 is just a fill gap year. CFC at U14 puts together their proper ECNL and NPL teams so just being in the club is enough if you want to be in the United program.

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CFC usually pays more attention to how the branches fare in the Cup in determining Pre-ECNL assignments.

And once you get the assignment, they won't take it away the next year as the drama it would cause is not worth it - especially for a program (Pre-ECNL) that is meant to be developmental.

So how did Arsenal and West do in the cup at U12?

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CFC usually pays more attention to how the branches fare in the Cup in determining Pre-ECNL assignments.

And once you get the assignment, they won't take it away the next year as the drama it would cause is not worth it - especially for a program (Pre-ECNL) that is meant to be developmental.

So how did Arsenal and West do in the cup at U12?

Both made it to semifinals. West lost to the Champion Ginga 2-0 and Arsenal lost 2-0 to FSA. So that blows that theory

http://www.cjsareg.org/cjsacup/Brack...p/U12Girls.pdf

The rest of argument also doesn't hold because by your reasoning once assigned always assigned. And if Arsenal doesn't have it this year then they are taking it way from them (1/2 anyway). Arsenal parents would be furious.

Shouldn't this be something CFC decides before tryout time so folks know what they're signing up for? If this is all true then yes the Scumbag title definitely holds

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U13 is just a fill gap year. CFC at U14 puts together their proper ECNL and NPL teams so just being in the club is enough if you want to be in the United program.

This age group is very weak throughout CFC. combining the teams will only be a slight improvement.
Arsenal, are definitely the stronger of the two branches. the designation should have gone to them. Perhaps politics are playing a part in selecting west. Now that their best players (team) has been "united" they need something to carry their flag

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Notice how every CFC discusison eventually devoles to a West versus Arsenal argument? And yet people still seem to be under the illusion that CFC is a single, unified "club." It's only a club in that they wear the same uniforms.

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Notice how every CFC discusison eventually devoles to a West versus Arsenal argument? And yet people still seem to be under the illusion that CFC is a single, unified "club." It's only a club in that they wear the same uniforms.

I've always said Arsenal and West are the A teams, the branches are all B.

As for this year's U13s there are several strong players at YU and Ginga. If CFC can snag them for CFCU next year then that will help. If they stick with their prior practice of 98% CFC players the CFCU teams won't be very strong as they have been. Yet, if they take too many outsiders they tick off CFC parents and threaten the entire CFC structure. It's a no win situation that they've not faced before.

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Why is this thread still alive?

Haven't we already agreed that, indeed, "CFC is the #1 scumbag club in the USA"?

Move on already.

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It's like a convicted criminal who keeps trying to present new evidence to get a re-trial or even better an overturned conviction. TS judges keep turning them down.

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I've always said Arsenal and West are the A teams, the branches are all B.

As for this year's U13s there are several strong players at YU and Ginga. If CFC can snag them for CFCU next year then that will help. If they stick with their prior practice of 98% CFC players the CFCU teams won't be very strong as they have been. Yet, if they take too many outsiders they tick off CFC parents and threaten the entire CFC structure. It's a no win situation that they've not faced before.

Yeah, all these great players at YU and Ginga and no talent at CFC anywhere. I have no doubt there are a few at Ginga and YU, but you are naïve if you think all the talent resides outside CFC. Let me guess, your team was great at 8v8, built up got soccer points against similar teams, and have not played 11 v 11 yet. Let me ask a few questions. Were you in reality carried by your top 2 players? Will weakness in depth will be exposed on larger field, larger goals? Will all the talent that supposedly resides outside of CFC really just be exposed on the larger field and playing head to head 11 v 11? Quite frankly, I do not know the answer and neither do you. Let see how the fall season goes and then make some judgments. good luck.

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I've always said Arsenal and West are the A teams, the branches are all B.

As for this year's U13s there are several strong players at YU and Ginga. If CFC can snag them for CFCU next year then that will help. If they stick with their prior practice of 98% CFC players the CFCU teams won't be very strong as they have been. Yet, if they take too many outsiders they tick off CFC parents and threaten the entire CFC structure. It's a no win situation that they've not faced before.

Sorry, can't have 40 "A" players one year and then 20 the next. By the TS definition of "A" teams and players, CFC has two teams with a mix of A and B players. But inmplies to the parents and players that they are all A players. And they everyone is "shocked" to find out a year later that was not the case. Again, CFC is not a club, just a loose association of separate soccer teams that compete more fiercely against one another than they do against teams from other clubs.

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Sorry, can't have 40 "A" players one year and then 20 the next. By the TS definition of "A" teams and players, CFC has two teams with a mix of A and B players. But inmplies to the parents and players that they are all A players. And they everyone is "shocked" to find out a year later that was not the case. Again, CFC is not a club, just a loose association of separate soccer teams that compete more fiercely against one another than they do against teams from other clubs.

What are you even trying to say? In your opinion, should they identify an A team earlier? Seems like you are trying to imply CFC is doing something underhanded. Not even sure what you mean by CFC not being a club. Would they be a club if the identified an A team at U9, no matter how crazy that is? These parents know the numbers. Are they disappointed when the their kid hits u13 they do not make United? Sure. But it seems you are making the case they are better off not even trying to make United. Would they be better off at some smaller "real" club and not trying for United? That is a fine opinion, but it is not what people are doing. Let me guess, CFC is collapsing, the numbers will shrink because you are right, etc. etc. I wont hold me breathe.