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    Is college soccer different than other college sports as far as recruiting? How is it possible that Rutgers has 16 players on their current roster of 26 that played at PDA? How does Mike O'Neill get away with this? Is there some sort of loophole that allows him to coach and run PDA without breaking any recruiting rules? Could you imagine if Coach K or Geno Auriemma started a youth club in basketball and started pitching/selling their respective colleges to their players and parents from when they were 8 and 9 years old or even possibly giving them the idea that Duke or Uconn might be in their future?

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Is college soccer different than other college sports as far as recruiting? How is it possible that Rutgers has 16 players on their current roster of 26 that played at PDA? How does Mike O'Neill get away with this? Is there some sort of loophole that allows him to coach and run PDA without breaking any recruiting rules? Could you imagine if Coach K or Geno Auriemma started a youth club in basketball and started pitching/selling their respective colleges to their players and parents from when they were 8 and 9 years old or even possibly giving them the idea that Duke or Uconn might be in their future?
    Sad commentary let me guess, your little Suzy couldn’t cut it at PDA?

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      #3
      We are the Shore! Tryouts March 31st-April 7th. Come see what the buzz is all about. With three Jeff Cup trophies in just one weekend, it's no wonder we are the #1 destination club in NJ. Heres your chance to be apart of the future of soccer. We are the Shore!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Sad commentary let me guess, your little Suzy couldn’t cut it at PDA?
        Nah. Just bored and looking at college rosters and couldn't believe that Rutgers has 16 PDA players. I was honestly asking how they get away with it?

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          #5
          NCAA 50 Mile Rule

          NCAA DIV I 2011-2012 Manual states:
          13.11.2.3 Local Sports Clubs. In sports other than basketball, an institution’s coach may be involved in any
          capacity (e.g., as a participant, administrator or in instructional or coaching activities) in the same sport for a local sports club or organization located in the institution’s home community, provided all prospective student athletes participating in said activities are legal residents of the area (within a 50-mile radius of the institution).
          In all sports, an institution’s coach may be involved in any capacity (e.g., as a participant, administrator or in
          instructional or coaching activities) in a sport other than the coach’s sport for a local sports club or organization
          located in the institution’s home community, provided all prospective student-athletes participating in said activities
          are legal residents of the area (within a 50-mile radius of the institution). Further, in club teams involving
          multiple teams or multiple sports, the 50-mile radius is applicable only to the team with which the institution’s
          coach is involved; however, it is not permissible for the coach to assign a prospective student-athlete who lives
          outside the 50-mile area to another coach of the club. A coach also may be involved in activities with individuals
          who are not of a prospective student-athlete age, regardless of where such individuals reside. (In women’s volleyball
          and women’s sand volleyball, see Bylaws 13.1.7.12 and 13.1.7.13, respectively, for regulations relating to
          a coach’s involvement with a local sports club and the permissible number of evaluation days.) (Revised: 1/10/90,
          1/16/93, 9/6/00, 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02, 5/11/05)
          13.11.2.3.1 Exception. The 50-mile radius restriction shall not apply to a prospective student-athlete
          who resides outside a 50-mile radius of the institution, provided the institution documents that the local
          sports club is the closest opportunity for the prospective student-athlete to participate in the sport. (Adopted:
          1/9/06 effective 8/1/06)
          13.11.2.3.2 Legal Resident. A prospective student-athlete who relocates to an area within a 50-mile
          radius of the institution on a temporary basis (e.g., to participate on a club team or attend an institution
          while maintaining a permanent residence outside of the 50-mile radius) is not a legal resident of the area
          regardless of whether the prospective student-athlete meets legal standards of state or local residency for
          governmental purposes. (Adopted: 9/18/07)
          13.11.2.3.3 Institutional Sponsorship of Local Sports Club. Neither an institution’s athletics department
          nor an institution’s athletics booster group may sponsor a local sports club that includes prospective
          student-athletes. It is permissible for a department of the institution that operates independent of the
          athletics department (e.g., physical education department, recreation department) to sponsor a local sports
          club that includes prospective student-athletes, provided no athletics department staff member is involved
          with the club team. (Adopted: 1/16/93, Revised: 1/11/94)

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            NCAA DIV I 2011-2012 Manual states:
            13.11.2.3 Local Sports Clubs. In sports other than basketball, an institution’s coach may be involved in any
            capacity (e.g., as a participant, administrator or in instructional or coaching activities) in the same sport for a local sports club or organization located in the institution’s home community, provided all prospective student athletes participating in said activities are legal residents of the area (within a 50-mile radius of the institution).
            In all sports, an institution’s coach may be involved in any capacity (e.g., as a participant, administrator or in
            instructional or coaching activities) in a sport other than the coach’s sport for a local sports club or organization
            located in the institution’s home community, provided all prospective student-athletes participating in said activities
            are legal residents of the area (within a 50-mile radius of the institution). Further, in club teams involving
            multiple teams or multiple sports, the 50-mile radius is applicable only to the team with which the institution’s
            coach is involved; however, it is not permissible for the coach to assign a prospective student-athlete who lives
            outside the 50-mile area to another coach of the club. A coach also may be involved in activities with individuals
            who are not of a prospective student-athlete age, regardless of where such individuals reside. (In women’s volleyball
            and women’s sand volleyball, see Bylaws 13.1.7.12 and 13.1.7.13, respectively, for regulations relating to
            a coach’s involvement with a local sports club and the permissible number of evaluation days.) (Revised: 1/10/90,
            1/16/93, 9/6/00, 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02, 5/11/05)
            13.11.2.3.1 Exception. The 50-mile radius restriction shall not apply to a prospective student-athlete
            who resides outside a 50-mile radius of the institution, provided the institution documents that the local
            sports club is the closest opportunity for the prospective student-athlete to participate in the sport. (Adopted:
            1/9/06 effective 8/1/06)
            13.11.2.3.2 Legal Resident. A prospective student-athlete who relocates to an area within a 50-mile
            radius of the institution on a temporary basis (e.g., to participate on a club team or attend an institution
            while maintaining a permanent residence outside of the 50-mile radius) is not a legal resident of the area
            regardless of whether the prospective student-athlete meets legal standards of state or local residency for
            governmental purposes. (Adopted: 9/18/07)
            13.11.2.3.3 Institutional Sponsorship of Local Sports Club. Neither an institution’s athletics department
            nor an institution’s athletics booster group may sponsor a local sports club that includes prospective
            student-athletes. It is permissible for a department of the institution that operates independent of the
            athletics department (e.g., physical education department, recreation department) to sponsor a local sports
            club that includes prospective student-athletes, provided no athletics department staff member is involved
            with the club team. (Adopted: 1/16/93, Revised: 1/11/94)
            This is from the 2011-2012 NCAA manual. Does this still apply?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              This is from the 2011-2012 NCAA manual. Does this still apply?
              Haven't heard of any changes to the rule since then.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Is college soccer different than other college sports as far as recruiting? How is it possible that Rutgers has 16 players on their current roster of 26 that played at PDA? How does Mike O'Neill get away with this? Is there some sort of loophole that allows him to coach and run PDA without breaking any recruiting rules? Could you imagine if Coach K or Geno Auriemma started a youth club in basketball and started pitching/selling their respective colleges to their players and parents from when they were 8 and 9 years old or even possibly giving them the idea that Duke or Uconn might be in their future?
                What is even better for the program is he doesn’t have to go to any showcases. When his Blue team plays another ECNL team I would bet plenty of players reached out to him ahead of time. When his team travels to the Championship tournaments and ECNL showcases he can get his scouted done as well vs. opponents who are usually top tier teams as well as the other teams playing at the showcase. PDA also invites clubs/teams to Zerapath for mini round round robin invitational tournaments where he can scout potential recruits. It’s a major win/win for him.

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                  #9
                  The 50mi rule is bull**** and why PDA keeps other clubs out of the North Atlantic div. 50mi stretches as far south as Cherry Hill and Voorhees across to northern Barnegate up to East Meadow in NY and White Plains as well as all of northern NJ, Bethlehem and Quakertown in PA.

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                    #10
                    Do any other schools have this type of arrangement with an ECNL level club?

                    Does this happen in any other sport?

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                      #11
                      Who cares. Is Rutgers even relevant in big 10. Answer is no.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Is college soccer different than other college sports as far as recruiting? How is it possible that Rutgers has 16 players on their current roster of 26 that played at PDA? How does Mike O'Neill get away with this? Is there some sort of loophole that allows him to coach and run PDA without breaking any recruiting rules? Could you imagine if Coach K or Geno Auriemma started a youth club in basketball and started pitching/selling their respective colleges to their players and parents from when they were 8 and 9 years old or even possibly giving them the idea that Duke or Uconn might be in their future?
                        How is that any different than the camps that coaches run all year round!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Who cares. Is Rutgers even relevant in big 10. Answer is no.
                          You haven’t been paying attention to sports. My guess is you’ve been in a COVID-19 slumber.

                          Rutgers is more than relevant, football, basketball, soccer, wrestling, lacrosse, etc...

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                            #14
                            Rutgers is very relevant. It is 100% a recruiting advantage. Furthermore he keeps most of the best players in-state and from a scholarship standpoint it counts as instate tuition. He has more money to spread around and keep the best kids in state. The whole 2025 recruiting class is from PDA and he coaches most of them.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Rutgers is very relevant. It is 100% a recruiting advantage. Furthermore he keeps most of the best players in-state and from a scholarship standpoint it counts as instate tuition. He has more money to spread around and keep the best kids in state. The whole 2025 recruiting class is from PDA and he coaches most of them.
                              Do they not recruit any players from CSA, PSA, STA etc???

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