Shouldn’t Pateadores have its trainings shut down and it’s coaches given remedial education on the protection of children and their families? Was the coach (identified by another poster above) told to do training sessions with so many players or is he going rogue and doing it on his own? Either way, Pateadores and this club need their trainings shut down now for the safety of the community.
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While new COVID-19 cases reach record numbers day after day here in the States...Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Cases in Canada are down 82% from their peak. Cases in Italy are down 97% from their peak. Etc, etc.
Washington is doing better than elsewhere, but even our numbers are rising steadily because too many people are too stupid and selfish to do what is right.
Yes, I said stupid and selfish. This post says it all.
Back in March, the people who were objecting to protective measures (or claiming that concerns were overblown) may simply have been ignorant. Maybe they didn't understand. There is no longer any such excuse.
If you are still objecting to and/or openly defying public health measures, you are a horrible, terrible excuse for a human being. You are stupid. You are selfish. It is that simple.Comment
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You all do realize university of washington medical and science departments have come out and said it's nearly impossible to get covid-19 while outdoors. They have the data and facts behind their conclusions. Cliff mass has done a couple of article about their findings. The kids should be playing and practicing. Other states have been playing kids sports and actual games for months without issues.Comment
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While Cliff Mass the weather guy and professor of atmospheric sciences has thoughts on the virus, his UW colleagues who specialize in this stuff (like Trevor Bedford and Carl Bergstrom) disagree with him. So does Dr Fauci and so do most epidemiologists from the other leading programs in this field (Harvard, Johns Hopkins, University College London, Columbia).Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
That said, there are some minority views, and there’s a broad range of opinions among the specialists. Full lockdowns are clearly a blunt but effective mechanism for dealing with the problem (with a lot of associated adverse consequences to the economy, public health, and educational development, as well as youth sports of course). While lockdowns served their purpose, it’s hard to see the political will to go back and it’s far from clear that doing so would be a good thing. Over the past few weeks, the situation in King County is this:
— cases are way up, but
— testing has more than doubled, and the relatively few people testing positive now don’t tend to be nearly as sick
— about 95-97% of those getting tested test negative
— of the people who test positive, very few end up in the hospital (less than 2% over the past ten days, compared with 30% back in March)
— deaths are also way down, with a total of about 5 over the past couple weeks, also way down from the numbers back in March (every death from this or anything else is of course a tragedy, and the low numbers don’t diminish that)
The risk of outdoor transmission seems to be very, very low. Hopefully the combination of all these things could result in both school and sports working in the fall, but some places (like Houston, Dallas, Miami, Los Angeles and, closer to home, Yakima) are looking far worse than King County at the moment.Comment
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I approve this. Most of us think we should end sports altogether. This virus is never going away. It is irresponsible to take risks. Pro sports are done too.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Way too many on a field?Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/...afe-start.aspx
“for team sports that can mean limiting to groups of five in separate parts of the field if separated by a buffer zone.”
You people need to relax. Youth soccer is not causing a rise of covid cases. Our restaurants, bars, grocery stores, places of worship, beauty/hair salons, apartments, universities and general house parties, hospitals, dentists offices and all the other “essential businesses” at this point are the issue.
If you have 20 kids in 4 groups of 5 on a field, and you keep the groups separated, and the kids socially distanced, in king county you are legal.
Go crawl under the rock you came from and stop trying to be the COVID police.
For the rest of you, be smart, where a mask, carry sanitizer, and go for a run. Get your lungs healthy and stay away from anyone over 55.Comment
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I’ve been coaching my team at once. Groups of four in different corners of the field, probsbly 15-20 yards between groups, 6’ between all players in group. I can easily stay in the middle and coach all of them.Comment
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this is how most of the clubs are doing it. XF limited to 10 per session, but you are allowed as many as you want. Supposed to keep the kids in the same groups each week, groups of 5 should be well distanced from each other and easy to visually distinguish and all players must maintain social distancing.Comment
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Think of all the money that people will save by not having kids play sports! Massive savings. Think of the savings people aren't spending tens of thousands on season tickets and $9 for a bag of peanuts or $12 for a plastic cup of beer at the ball game.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Xfire suspended all training until at least July 20 at the earliest. I’m pretty sure they have confirmed that on their website. It sure seems like Pateadores is taking a big risk with their kids. It’s highly irresponsible to gamble with kids’ health. Anyone on this thread advocating folks to chill out and just let the kids play is essentially sending the message that it’s OK to gamble with kids’ health. The leadership at Pateadores is highly questionable and suspect. It appears ex-Sounder James Riley is coaching with them now. I hope to God he stays far, far away from this dangerous clown show.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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0 deaths under 19 years old in Washington from COVID.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
90% of deaths in Washington were people over 60 years old.
52% of deaths in Washington were people over 80.
https://www.doh.wa.gov/emergencies/coronavirus
I’m not advocating for people to go back to normal. I am very sorry people have died. But if clubs are following the guidance, and your child doesn’t have a pre-existing health condition, it would appear reasonable to send your child to practice. There is a risk, like many other risks.Comment
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Ahh, yes. Let's ignore the fact that "mild" and asymptomatic infections have been shown to wreak havoc on people's immune systems across the entire world.Comment
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There are concerns that the virus could have long term impacts on some people (particularly lung scarring on some patients who had sufficiently severe cases to be hospitalized, which in King County would be some subset of about 3% of positive cases over the past few weeks), and there are a lot of unknowns about potential long term impacts given that the virus has only been around a few months, but there isn’t any support for anything remotely like what you claim above.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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"There isn't any support for anything remotely like what you claim above"
I'm not the clownshow you're responding to but this is a silly overstatement.
Here are two sources that took me less than 10 seconds to find:
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"In the Netherlands, the Lung Foundation, together with the University of Maastricht and the CIRO group, surveyed 1,622 Covid-19 patients who had reported a number of long-term effects from their illness. Ninety-one percent of the patients were not hospitalized, which indicates that the vast majority of the surveyed patients would fall under the category “mildly symptomatic.” The average age of the patients surveyed was 53.
Nearly 88% of patients reported persistent intense fatigue, while almost three out of four had continued shortness of breath. Other enduring symptoms included, among other things, chest pressure (45% of patients), headache and muscle ache (40% and 36%, respectively), elevated pulse (30%), and dizziness (29%). Perhaps the most startling finding was that 85% of the surveyed patients considered themselves healthy prior to getting Covid-19. One or more months after getting the disease, only 6% consider themselves healthy."
As reported in Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuac.../#3dea3fb95979
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The second, as reported by NPR:
"The Nature Medicine paper analyzes 37 asymptomatic cases, found through the contact tracing and testing efforts of the Wanzhou District Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in central China, which screened 2,088 close contacts of coronavirus patients from February through early April.
The asymptomatic patients were hospitalized for observation. Fifty-seven percent showed lung abnormalities on a CT scan, a sensitive imaging technique that produces a three-dimensional picture of the lungs. Some showed "striped shadows," while others presented with "ground-glass opacities" — clear signs of inflammation in the lungs.
"To find so many asymptomatic patients with such significant changes on CTs is quite surprising," says Dr. Alvin Ing, a professor of respiratory medicine at Macquarie University who was not involved with the study. It shows that even people with no outward signs of infection can be experiencing some temporary damage to their lungs. It feeds into a pattern he's seen in treating COVID-19 patients: "The symptoms underestimate the severity of the disease." In other words, the coronavirus is often taxing a person's body more severely than their symptoms — or lack thereof — suggest.
The findings are consistent with several studies following asymptomatic patients in China, which have found that many can develop lesions in the lungs despite having no outward symptoms, says Dr. Jennifer Taylor-Cousar, a pulmonologist at National Jewish Health in Denver not involved with the paper. "It probably is, at least in this disease, pretty common," she says."
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...l-asymptomaticComment
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We need to shut it all down again like immediately. Everything. As long as they beef up the unemployment benefits to $1200 per week, we can ride this wave for years if that's what it takes.Comment
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