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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Or was it because a man was murdered by a cop playing judge, jury, and executioner over supposed counterfeit bill.
    well that will be determined in a court of law by a jury after a full investigation

    if he asphyxiated you may have a point- fentanyl is a dangerous drug, bad shat happens when people use that recreationally

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      well that will be determined in a court of law by a jury after a full investigation

      if he asphyxiated you may have a point- fentanyl is a dangerous drug, bad shat happens when people use that recreationally
      At least he is alive to get his trial in court.

      Yes, drugs are bad but addiction to those drugs is far worse. You don’t wake up one day and decide to be a junkie. And you don’t usually wake up the next day and stop being a junkie. Unfortunately, we live in an “everybody needs a script for a hangnail” society. Doctors are at fault for a large percentage of the drug crisis we face today. Not everyone is immune to addiction. Some are fortunate to get the help they need and walk away alive, others aren’t so lucky. Maybe we need to start there.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        At least he is alive to get his trial in court.

        Yes, drugs are bad but addiction to those drugs is far worse. You don’t wake up one day and decide to be a junkie. And you don’t usually wake up the next day and stop being a junkie. Unfortunately, we live in an “everybody needs a script for a hangnail” society. Doctors are at fault for a large percentage of the drug crisis we face today. Not everyone is immune to addiction. Some are fortunate to get the help they need and walk away alive, others aren’t so lucky. Maybe we need to start there.
        Someone like George Floyd is much less likely to have access to treatment programs. Poverty, addiction, lack of healthcare, inadequate education, lack of opportunities are all "societal issues" but they are highly correlated with race in the US. Plenty of whites face those issues as well but they keep voting for a party that doesn't want to want their lives to be better

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Someone like George Floyd is much less likely to have access to treatment programs. Poverty, addiction, lack of healthcare, inadequate education, lack of opportunities are all "societal issues" but they are highly correlated with race in the US. Plenty of whites face those issues as well but they keep voting for a party that doesn't want to want their lives to be better
          I completely agree. We need to do better.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I completely agree. We need to do better.
            society reacts to issues

            we need treatment programs because a large segment of the population decided it was ok to do drugs
            why did they think that? many answers

            but think of all the things that drugs affect in a society
            from birth to grave

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              society reacts to issues

              we need treatment programs because a large segment of the population decided it was ok to do drugs
              why did they think that? many answers

              but think of all the things that drugs affect in a society
              from birth to grave
              Think of all the people, many white, who got addicted because big pharma and docs pushed opioids.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Think of all the people, many white, who got addicted because big pharma and docs pushed opioids.
                Don't forget about our veterans. How many come back from active duty and fall into the hands of drugs?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Don't forget about our veterans. How many come back from active duty and fall into the hands of drugs?
                  there are a million reasons- the question is how to mitigate the negative effects
                  homelessness,criminality,unwanted pregnancies,unemployment,abuse,suicide,ods

                  because at the end of the day the drugs arent going anywhere as most are helpful for legitimate medical issues

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    there are a million reasons- the question is how to mitigate the negative effects
                    homelessness,criminality,unwanted pregnancies,unemployment,abuse,suicide,ods

                    because at the end of the day the drugs arent going anywhere as most are helpful for legitimate medical issues
                    No one says drugs will go away but they shouldn't be given out like candy either. A doctor in Wallingford was recently charged for selling prescriptions:

                    https://www.myrecordjournal.com/News...criptions.html

                    These are the scumbags that aren't helping the matter.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      No one says drugs will go away but they shouldn't be given out like candy either. A doctor in Wallingford was recently charged for selling prescriptions:

                      https://www.myrecordjournal.com/News...criptions.html

                      These are the scumbags that aren't helping the matter.
                      most of the current opiod crisis is due to over prescription of pain killers

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                        #26
                        The Logical Voice

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So coronavirus killing millions more because of protesting is ok? I thought coronavirus was racist anyway and only targeted black people. Doesn't this make it a lot easier for the racist covid to do its work?
                        This is another foolish argument.

                        Of course it's not good for virus control to have all these people out in protest. That doesn't really take much see. Of course it tremendously increases the risk of spread beyond what we could practically control with proper social distancing. That's not the debate and from a medical perspective the protests are not helping us.

                        However, things have happened that have raised cultural awareness over racial issues and police behavior to a point that the population feels compelled to rise to civil disobedience to confront. This need to find justice has outweighed the fear these same people may have about infection. I think it will take a huge surge in hospitalizations and deaths to scare folks away again. You are seeing such surges down south and out west now. We shall see what it does to this passion that has folks in the streets.

                        If the medical authorities had their choice they'd bring these protests to an end to prevent virus spread, but just how are they supposed to do that with so many thousands simply refusing to obey instructions to disperse and go home? The only way you get them off the streets now is to show them a clear path to equality and justice is in place, or you use force to drive them away, or you just wait them out and let the energy and focus dissipate on its own.

                        I was a teen in the period from 1966 through 1974. I watched the Vietnam war on TV and then watched the people take to the streets to bring that war to an end. The Democratic Convention of 1968, Kent State, riots in major cities, protests and marches in major cities and on the capital. In the beginning it was just the "hippies" and "peaceniks" and those on the right regarded as traitors. Soldiers coming home were spit on, had feces thrown at them. I can't think of a group of Veterans more shabbily treated then and after than the Viet Nam vets. But by the end of 1969 and beyond, the marchers and protesters were of all ages, colors, religions and political leanings were part of those protests.

                        We are witnessing and/or participating in much the same thing now. The people, when they take to the streets, become a force that cannot be ignored. Common sense says they shouldn't be out there right now, but it seems that the people believe it risks are worth facing for the outcome they want to have.

                        As Dan Fogelberg once sang, "Are the spoils worth the cost of the hunt?". We shall find out in in the next year or so.

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                          #27
                          The Logical Voice

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If there is a spike in Covid 19 the blood will be on the hands of the protestors,media, politicians , looters and BLM.
                          On this point, we agree.

                          The question remains, is the gain we make in social justice and equality worth the risks being taken to get there?

                          This is one of those life moments when we get the test first and the lesson afterwards.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            On this point, we agree.

                            The question remains, is the gain we make in social justice and equality worth the risks being taken to get there?

                            This is one of those life moments when we get the test first and the lesson afterwards.
                            Red states were already seeing an increase in cases from lifting distancing measures and this week some states are really spiking. However, red states were less likely to see large widespread protests other than in some of their larger cities. Who wins the covid race, red or blue states?

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