Sideline chatter but a former Bayside then Scorps dad has told me his daughter and friends pulled out of Scorpions to Juve and this club is superior to Scorpions now for female players even without ECNL patch. Did they follow the coach? Maybe? Would love to hear more as we were looking at Scorpions but Juve is getting some talent.
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I can tell you that the Juventus girls did not do well during the Juventus Memorial Day tournament. As such:
U11 Girls - Serie A
Champions: Seacoast United Mass Boston 2010 Pre-Elite Girls
Finalists: NEFC 2010 Metro West Elite Girls
U12 Girls: Serie A
Champions: Seacoast United Bedford 2009 Pre-Academy Girls
Finalists: Seacoast United Mass Boston 2009 Pre-Elite Girls
U13 Girls - Serie A
Champions: Seacoast United Bedford 2008 DPL Girls
Finalists: NEFC 2009 Pre-GA Girls
U14 Girls - Serie A
Champions: NEFC 2007 Girls DPL
Finalists: Seacoast United Mass South 2007 Elite Girls
I can also tell you that last season's Scorpions girls teams for 2009 and 2010 played mostly at a lower level in NEP. That said, they have the ECNL pathway and will recruit their way to success over the next couple years for these age groups.
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Juve is fine for younger teams/players and 2nd/3rd tier soccer. If your kid is serious about playing competitive soccer with a possibility to play D1 in college, they need to be looking at moving to a top tier league for exposure at the recruiting ages and to be pushed by the better players/teams, faster speed of play, etc.
Reality is both Stars and Scorpions will fill out their ECNL teams and aggregate talent such that by U15, most of the top girls talent is on one of three ECNL teams. In years past, NEFC GA/DA would also have some very talented players on their top team and the rest (SSS, Seacoast, various lower tier clubs) would have one or two players who could make a top roster, but overall the teams by then aren't the same caliber. The soccer "pyramid" for girls really does aggregate much of the talent in the area to just a few clubs. Juventus at U15+ isn't one of them.
D1 College coaches will say it doesn't matter what team or league you play for, but that is BS. When you look at their recruits and where they come from, it is almost invariably ECNL or GA. Very few get looks outside of that, and it is usually one player (like a Bayside girl getting recruited to PC, she will likely be the only one on that team going D1).
If your kid doesn't care about playing in college, it doesn't matter. Play where she will be happy and at a level that challenges and she can have success. Same goes for D3. If she is looking for D1, Juve isn't the place to be. Same goes for a bunch of other clubs, so I'm not bashing Juve. It just happens to be the way the pyramid is structured right now and the best Juve girls can offer is DPL and EDP, both 2nd/3rd tier competitively to ECNL and GA.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSideline chatter but a former Bayside then Scorps dad has told me his daughter and friends pulled out of Scorpions to Juve and this club is superior to Scorpions now for female players even without ECNL patch. Did they follow the coach? Maybe? Would love to hear more as we were looking at Scorpions but Juve is getting some talent.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostJuve is fine for younger teams/players and 2nd/3rd tier soccer. If your kid is serious about playing competitive soccer with a possibility to play D1 in college, they need to be looking at moving to a top tier league for exposure at the recruiting ages and to be pushed by the better players/teams, faster speed of play, etc.
Reality is both Stars and Scorpions will fill out their ECNL teams and aggregate talent such that by U15, most of the top girls talent is on one of three ECNL teams. In years past, NEFC GA/DA would also have some very talented players on their top team and the rest (SSS, Seacoast, various lower tier clubs) would have one or two players who could make a top roster, but overall the teams by then aren't the same caliber. The soccer "pyramid" for girls really does aggregate much of the talent in the area to just a few clubs. Juventus at U15+ isn't one of them.
D1 College coaches will say it doesn't matter what team or league you play for, but that is BS. When you look at their recruits and where they come from, it is almost invariably ECNL or GA. Very few get looks outside of that, and it is usually one player (like a Bayside girl getting recruited to PC, she will likely be the only one on that team going D1).
If your kid doesn't care about playing in college, it doesn't matter. Play where she will be happy and at a level that challenges and she can have success. Same goes for D3. If she is looking for D1, Juve isn't the place to be. Same goes for a bunch of other clubs, so I'm not bashing Juve. It just happens to be the way the pyramid is structured right now and the best Juve girls can offer is DPL and EDP, both 2nd/3rd tier competitively to ECNL and GA.
I know for a fact many players left Scorpions ECNL for Select, Juve and NEFC from 2008-2004. Good thing you're a top coach and can handle coaching 7 teams this year because god knows you still owe your prior coaches money from last year.
All of those clubs have D1 recruits including Juve, we know of at least 3 but keep trying.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell done Nick, nice copy and paste straight from your marketing material. Scorpions are literally bleeding players left and right not just from Juve but from every other club in Massachusetts.
I know for a fact many players left Scorpions ECNL for Select, Juve and NEFC from 2008-2004. Good thing you're a top coach and can handle coaching 7 teams this year because god knows you still owe your prior coaches money from last year.
All of those clubs have D1 recruits including Juve, we know of at least 3 but keep trying.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell done Nick, nice copy and paste straight from your marketing material. Scorpions are literally bleeding players left and right not just from Juve but from every other club in Massachusetts.
I know for a fact many players left Scorpions ECNL for Select, Juve and NEFC from 2008-2004. Good thing you're a top coach and can handle coaching 7 teams this year because god knows you still owe your prior coaches money from last year.
All of those clubs have D1 recruits including Juve, we know of at least 3 but keep trying.
Not an exhaustive list, but telling:
https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/sear...ea=commitments
FC Stars, NEFC, Scorpions, and SSS. Run a similar search for 2021's and you get similar results. Results. Not hearsay, not fiction. Commits to D1's. That's what we're talking about and it's kind of hard to dispute this, but I'm sure you'll try.
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Juve has an ID clinic coming up.
The timing is interesting as all the top players (ECNL) are already rostered.
So who are they throwing this Hail Mary at mid summer?
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