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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    My post was in response to an allegation of Title IX violation being made against MK not in support of TA's actions. He absolutely should have been fired as quickly as he was and his conduct was in no way proper but it didn't rise to the level of being a Title IX offense and thus not a reportable event.

    I find it odd that you think an AD or SWA at a PAC 12 school would be so casual with their own very high paying job as to hire a coach without any level of due diligence. It doesn't require a deep dig to find this stuff. Kagan was hired on July 16th and there are posts on TS on 5/27 spelling out exactly what went on in Miami. They knew. They either felt that there was not enough there or that they have adequate oversight; but they knew before they hired him. And the fact that it's not football or basketball doesn't matter. If something similar were to occur after hiring him they would be out of a job. It would be a PR nightmare. You don't put a 700k/yr job at risk on a new hire without doing any due diligence regardless of the job. HR wouldn't let it happen and the University's risk management wouldn't let it happen. And please - let's not try to pretend that the AD didn't make a phone call to both the AD's at OSU and UofM. There are plenty of ways to find out information without requiring illegal actions.

    I think we have to remember that the only allegation against MK is that he knew about inappropriate behavior of a boss and did nothing about it. There are no accusations about improper behavior from him. And, there are definitely no accusations about the current WSU staff that would make you think that we could see a repeat of what happened in Miami.
    I think the issue here is that MK knew what happened at Miami, did nothing about it, and then went back to work for the guy again. It’s recent history, it was 3 years ago.

    Also, a PAC 12 AD is not making phone reference checks to other AD’s, it doesn’t work that way. Best case HR is reaching out for employment verification. TA was hired multiple times following Miami so it certainly isn’t a stretch that OSU and WSU missed this information.

    I don’t agree that this is a personal attack against MK, and I do believe there are some aggravated women at past programs that have become frustrated with these individuals being able to continue coaching women. The women that experienced what took place are now in their 30’s. This won’t go away.

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      #32
      WSU athletics has a lengthy history supporting male athletes & coaches who abuse women. Look at there track record with Gesser, Rypen, Price, Eaton etc. There are more the public isn't even aware of.

      WSU = Trash

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It very likely could be a both. Someones don’t like MK for local recent reasons but used the allegations in question about Miami connections to get MK forced out. This also would explain why WSU was ok hiring him.

        MK had a historic turn around at OSU his first year with a female assistant coach who the players loved and who is now the head coach at UNLV. Once she left, and another male was added, results went south. MK also was a piss poor recruiter, which didn’t help team results nor happiness about playing time on a large roster. Now, imagine this the large group of local players, their families and then add in a local coach want him out…Bringing up unrelated but disturbing history could be the cherry on top if you want dismissal and to get the local coach promoted. The fact that OSU’s top two field players transferred out with MK shows that he must have been liked by the top players. In fact, the historically top player who won regional honors followed MK to WSU. Seems being an assistant at WSU will work better for MK. Frankly, with the new U of Oregon coach getting rid of most in state recruits, nice to now have OSU be run by a local club and give players in the state top priority.
        KL was promoted to head assistant coach and the old head assistant was let go when the new coach came in. According to the players, KL was pretty much running things last year. Whether he continues to run things remains to be seen but since no new asst has been hired, it appears he will be kept and will continue to have at least major influence, perhaps more. That is huge for the Crossfire United players now and going forward. It will be easy to tell once games start and who gets playing time. The fact that the new OSU coach hasn’t hired any new staff and hasn’t snagged any transfers to help with the past poor recruiting and loss of key players suggests everything will remain the same, minus MK and the two stars and other players who’ve transferred out. Underneath the surface, it will be basically run by a local club. That is a very good thing for local players.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          KL was promoted to head assistant coach and the old head assistant was let go when the new coach came in. According to the players, KL was pretty much running things last year. Whether he continues to run things remains to be seen but since no new asst has been hired, it appears he will be kept and will continue to have at least major influence, perhaps more. That is huge for the Crossfire United players now and going forward. It will be easy to tell once games start and who gets playing time. The fact that the new OSU coach hasn’t hired any new staff and hasn’t snagged any transfers to help with the past poor recruiting and loss of key players suggests everything will remain the same, minus MK and the two stars and other players who’ve transferred out. Underneath the surface, it will be basically run by a local club. That is a very good thing for local players.
          They will try to recruit the best kids they can, Crossfire or not.

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            #35
            TA was hired again. lol, these guys just keep moving around.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Guest View Post
              TA was hired again. lol, these guys just keep moving around.
              Do you think the University of Cincinnati will hire Paul Riley?

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