College Soccer

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Agreed. Good soccer school is not a school that peaks once every 8-10 years to win its conference and make the tournament. Good soccer schools can win consistently and give anyone a competitive game even in their "down years."

Of course which is why a good soccer school will make tournament even if they do not win their league.

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My kids played on club teams with kids that mostly went to D1 programs. The high impact players went to P5 conferences and are playing. Other starters landed at other NE D1's (e.g., Northeastern, Providence, HC, Vermont, etc.) or Ivies and are playing. Other players went to NESCACs and are playing. The kids that ended up in D3 were not necessarily the top players on the club roster, but could certainly hold their own. After a couple of years in school, however, the gap seems to have gotten much greater. This makes sense, due to competition, training, and focus. There's a huge difference between playing against ACC or Big 10 or even Big East and Ivy players -- and playing against Hamilton, Bates and Bowdoin. I would assume that the high impact players at a NESCAC school could have competed at many D1 programs, but players 6-14 and then 14-22 would be a significant drop off.

My kid is in a summer league with an array of kids playing in various leagues and divisions on it. You can still spot the kids that understand the game and the iq behind it and those that don't.

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Agreed. Good soccer school is not a school that peaks once every 8-10 years to win its conference and make the tournament. Good soccer schools can win consistently and give anyone a competitive game even in their "down years."

Between the 2018, 2019 and the 2020-2021 seasons there have been 94 different D1 men's teams ranked in the Top 50(RPI).

There were 14 schools that appeared on all three Top 50 lists.

There were 27 schools that appeared on the Top 50 lists twice.

There were 53 schools that appeared on the Top 50 lists only once.

The New England schools that made the list at least once were:

New Hampshire (3 times)
Boston College (1 time)
Dartmouth (1 time)
Fairfield (1 time)
Holy Cross (1 time)
UMass (1 time)
Providence (1 time)
Quinnipiac (1 time)
Rhode Island (1 time)
Seton Hall (1 time)
UConn (1 time)
Vermont (1 time)
Yale (1 time)

Schools that made the list all three years:

Charlotte
Georgetown
High Point
Indiana
James Madison
Kentucky
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Pittsburgh
Stanford
UCF
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
Washington

I was surprised there were only two West Coast teams that made the Top 50 three times.

North Carolina is definitely the state that wins the title of most schools on all three lists with four total.

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Of course which is why a good soccer school will make tournament even if they do not win their league.

Yes, if it's in a P5 conference. Much harder for the 2nd / 3rd tier conference teams.

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My kid is in a summer league with an array of kids playing in various leagues and divisions on it. You can still spot the kids that understand the game and the iq behind it and those that don't.

This is where my kid noticed the growing gap between D1 and others. The pace and ability to handle pressure was noticeably missing in the kids that were no longer playing, focusing and fighting for their spot on a year round basis.

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This is where my kid noticed the growing gap between D1 and others. The pace and ability to handle pressure was noticeably missing in the kids that were no longer playing, focusing and fighting for their spot on a year round basis.

and in the end they'll all wind up with similar jobs and move on with their lives. If you get some money to play college soccer that's great, but the education is what matters most.

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and in the end they'll all wind up with similar jobs and move on with their lives. If you get some money to play college soccer that's great, but the education is what matters most.

Some want both the education and a good soccer school/experience.

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Some want both the education and a good soccer school/experience.

Not many have the perfect combo of top soccer AND top education. Very few from around here even can make a top soccer program let alone play a lot. Not all will have the grades for a top education either (admissions rules are bent, not broken, for non revenue soccer). That's why choices get complicated, compromises made, but TS posters think they understand each and every choice a player makes ;)

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Not many have the perfect combo of top soccer AND top education. Very few from around here even can make a top soccer program let alone play a lot. Not all will have the grades for a top education either (admissions rules are bent, not broken, for non revenue soccer). That's why choices get complicated, compromises made, but TS posters think they understand each and every choice a player makes ;)

UMass Football Coach 650k base salary
UMass Basketball Coach 827k Salary

I mean there's a ton of money coming in on TV Contracts for UMass right?

UMass President Martin Meehan grossed $682,000 last year. Not as important as men's basketball? Who works harder for university?

The UMass football program accounts for $9 million of the athletic department's $40 million budget. The football program generates about $5 million in revenue with $2 million coming from student fees and the other $2 million from general operating funds

SO Football takes a 4 million loss every year to get their butts kicked. This is the problem. It isn't soccer

IN 2017 UMass reported 12 million in athletic scholarships. Of that, nearly half went to Football

The Football staff accounts for 1.9 million in salaries. WHAT?

Wrong sports are being cut

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UMass Football Coach 650k base salary
UMass Basketball Coach 827k Salary

I mean there's a ton of money coming in on TV Contracts for UMass right?

UMass President Martin Meehan grossed $682,000 last year. Not as important as men's basketball? Who works harder for university?

The UMass football program accounts for $9 million of the athletic department's $40 million budget. The football program generates about $5 million in revenue with $2 million coming from student fees and the other $2 million from general operating funds

SO Football takes a 4 million loss every year to get their butts kicked. This is the problem. It isn't soccer

IN 2017 UMass reported 12 million in athletic scholarships. Of that, nearly half went to Football

The Football staff accounts for 1.9 million in salaries. WHAT?

Wrong sports are being cut

This is more relevant to the NCAA ruling discussion. Compared to many football and basketball salaries UMA is paying peanuts but you're right they're not raking in TV $ either.

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UMass Football Coach 650k base salary
UMass Basketball Coach 827k Salary

I mean there's a ton of money coming in on TV Contracts for UMass right?

UMass President Martin Meehan grossed $682,000 last year. Not as important as men's basketball? Who works harder for university?

The UMass football program accounts for $9 million of the athletic department's $40 million budget. The football program generates about $5 million in revenue with $2 million coming from student fees and the other $2 million from general operating funds

SO Football takes a 4 million loss every year to get their butts kicked. This is the problem. It isn't soccer

IN 2017 UMass reported 12 million in athletic scholarships. Of that, nearly half went to Football

The Football staff accounts for 1.9 million in salaries. WHAT?

Wrong sports are being cut

In a NESJ interview the UMass men's soccer coach stated that he only has a few scholarships. They are not fully funded.

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In a NESJ interview the UMass men's soccer coach stated that he only has a few scholarships. They are not fully funded.

They in good company. Probably half of the D1 schools aren’t fully funded.

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They in good company. Probably half of the D1 schools aren’t fully funded.

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and in the end they'll all wind up with similar jobs and move on with their lives. If you get some money to play college soccer that's great, but the education is what matters most.

Said Daddy Warbucks. With tuitions now over $75K a year, the average 50% scholarship widely available on the women's side really is a game changer. You certainly don't read of many D1 scholarship athletes whining to Joe B to wipe out their student debt do you.

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Not many have the perfect combo of top soccer AND top education. Very few from around here even can make a top soccer program let alone play a lot. Not all will have the grades for a top education either (admissions rules are bent, not broken, for non revenue soccer). That's why choices get complicated, compromises made, but TS posters think they understand each and every choice a player makes ;)

There are plenty of places where a child can get a fine education and play some soccer. The problem with this site is unless they are in either the Ivy League or NESCAC the trolls don't believe they exist because they aren't high brow enough for them to brag about at the water cooler.