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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    ECNL is a far superior national league. Look at its footprint around the US and the clubs around the country are the best. FESA is not stupid to take a backward step.
    What’s a FESA? Never heard of it.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      ECNL is a far superior national league. Look at its footprint around the US and the clubs around the country are the best. FESA is not stupid to take a backward step.
      How many of the newly crowned Nations League Chsmpion USMNT players from last night came from ECNL clubs? How many came from former DA and current MLS Next clubs? Case closed moron!!!

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        #33
        How long has boys ECNL existed? Does the DA still even exist? Seems like case open, moron.

        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        How many of the newly crowned Nations League Chsmpion USMNT players from last night came from ECNL clubs? How many came from former DA and current MLS Next clubs? Case closed moron!!!

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          All you people who really think ECNL is better than MLS Next is just proof that you are clueless about soccer. BTW FESA did apply twice, once last spring after DA dropped the news it was shutting down and then again this past February. They were denied both times.
          Are there ECNL teams in the country that can beat MLS Next sides,of course but overall the better league for boys is MLS Next.
          In Florida, there are many ECNL teams that will beat the non mls funded teams. It’s all pay to play after true mls funded clubs and full of politics, daddy’s and blind coaches choosing the same players every year to avoid drama. If you are not OC or IM, you are no better than ECNL. My opinion after watching both sides is MLS next teams tend to play very boring soccer. They are physical yet lack talent and creativity. They play the same teams over and over again and it does not nothing for their development.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            How many of the newly crowned Nations League Chsmpion USMNT players from last night came from ECNL clubs? How many came from former DA and current MLS Next clubs? Case closed moron!!!
            And what did USA do last night besides getting very lucky? Mexico should have played their 20 year old star the entire game. Our boys could barely hold that kid. That is talent and creativity. US was boring as usual thanks to US soccer’s coaching. Our boys are great in Europe but coaching and style of US play is awful.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              And what did USA do last night besides getting very lucky? Mexico should have played their 20 year old star the entire game. Our boys could barely hold that kid. That is talent and creativity. US was boring as usual thanks to US soccer’s coaching. Our boys are great in Europe but coaching and style of US play is awful.
              What did USA do last night? They won the game and the trophy, and beat Mexico with a lineup that averaged nearly 5 years younger than Mexico. That’s what they did!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                In Florida, there are many ECNL teams that will beat the non mls funded teams. It’s all pay to play after true mls funded clubs and full of politics, daddy’s and blind coaches choosing the same players every year to avoid drama. If you are not OC or IM, you are no better than ECNL. My opinion after watching both sides is MLS next teams tend to play very boring soccer. They are physical yet lack talent and creativity. They play the same teams over and over again and it does not nothing for their development.
                If that’s the case Pep, then why in FL are the MLS Next U19 rosters across all MLS and non-MLS clubs full of D1 commitments, while ECNL clubs have VERY few???

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  And what did USA do last night besides getting very lucky? Mexico should have played their 20 year old star the entire game. Our boys could barely hold that kid. That is talent and creativity. US was boring as usual thanks to US soccer’s coaching. Our boys are great in Europe but coaching and style of US play is awful.
                  That kid is good yes, but he had one lucky goal that went through a defenders legs and blinded the GK. He lost possession more than he created. Don't overstate the impact on the game.
                  The US team beat a Mexican team that was suppose to win easily and they didn't.

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                    #39
                    First, that's not true. You can say whatever the heck you want on here, I get that, but if you want to make a valid argument, then show us your comparison you obviously did of publicly available information on FL MLS Next D1 Commits vs. Boys ECNL Commits.

                    Second, given Covid last year and the fact that MLS Next is brand new, lets see what the numbers look like in 3 years. If you are with an actual MLS affiliate, they bravo. You will get great looks. You are on the best path this country provides for getting to the next level. If you are not, then you are their scrimmage partners. The old DA is dead.

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If that’s the case Pep, then why in FL are the MLS Next U19 rosters across all MLS and non-MLS clubs full of D1 commitments, while ECNL clubs have VERY few???

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      First, that's not true. You can say whatever the heck you want on here, I get that, but if you want to make a valid argument, then show us your comparison you obviously did of publicly available information on FL MLS Next D1 Commits vs. Boys ECNL Commits.

                      Second, given Covid last year and the fact that MLS Next is brand new, lets see what the numbers look like in 3 years. If you are with an actual MLS affiliate, they bravo. You will get great looks. You are on the best path this country provides for getting to the next level. If you are not, then you are their scrimmage partners. The old DA is dead.
                      there is a battle for your money not development of your kids. MLS affiliates only care about selling seats and shirts there no different. Until there is the buying and selling of youth in this country its all fugazi

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        there is a battle for your money not development of your kids. MLS affiliates only care about selling seats and shirts there no different. Until there is the buying and selling of youth in this country its all fugazi
                        This ^^^^^^

                        The model is broken.

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                          #42
                          "scrimmage partners"...smh. Better to "scrimmage" IM or AU and get the experience/exposure playing against top talent....or you could just be like the FP 2007 team and beat all your local ENCL comp 10-0...great for development. Lots of very talented players whose families just can't pick up and move to an MLS funded club. And the pay for play argument is ridiculous. Go ask someone on that FP ECNL team what their bill was for this past season! They are paying as much if not more than any MLS Next team when all is said and done.

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                            #43
                            How many games did your club get against IM and AU? Those are definitely great opportunities. But the rest of the games are no better or slightly worse than the average ECNL match up. It is too bad we don't have a more defined pyramid, especially where the top of the pyramid is funded by development from the professional level, but we don't. Until then, it is just 2 different leagues trying to sell you on which one is better with neither having a true claim to being the best.


                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            "scrimmage partners"...smh. Better to "scrimmage" IM or AU and get the experience/exposure playing against top talent....or you could just be like the FP 2007 team and beat all your local ENCL comp 10-0...great for development. Lots of very talented players whose families just can't pick up and move to an MLS funded club. And the pay for play argument is ridiculous. Go ask someone on that FP ECNL team what their bill was for this past season! They are paying as much if not more than any MLS Next team when all is said and done.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              "scrimmage partners"...smh. Better to "scrimmage" IM or AU and get the experience/exposure playing against top talent....or you could just be like the FP 2007 team and beat all your local ENCL comp 10-0...great for development. Lots of very talented players whose families just can't pick up and move to an MLS funded club. And the pay for play argument is ridiculous. Go ask someone on that FP ECNL team what their bill was for this past season! They are paying as much if not more than any MLS Next team when all is said and done.
                              For it being MLSNEXT’s first year we are quite happy with our team, club and league. We were with an ECNL team/club last year and our current team is good and is getting better for next year. The league is also an upgrade from ECNL.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                How many games did your club get against IM and AU? Those are definitely great opportunities. But the rest of the games are no better or slightly worse than the average ECNL match up. It is too bad we don't have a more defined pyramid, especially where the top of the pyramid is funded by development from the professional level, but we don't. Until then, it is just 2 different leagues trying to sell you on which one is better with neither having a true claim to being the best.
                                OMG you are severely mis-informed my friend!!! First off, 3 games vs. ATL, 3 games vs. OC, and 2 games vs. IM. Secondly, you think that the boys ECNL schedule here in FL is as tough or tougher than the MLS Next schedule???? Bwahahahahaha!!!! Dude, you need help! Let’s just compare the leagues here:

                                MLS Next:
                                Atlanta United (not in FL, but we play them so it counts)
                                Inter Miami
                                Orlando City (A teams)
                                TBU (A teams)
                                IMG
                                Weston
                                Kendall (FL Rush Miami)
                                JFC
                                Clearwater
                                FL Rush (Orlando)
                                SSA (Atlanta)
                                SSFA (Boca United)
                                West Florida Flames

                                Boys ECNL:
                                Orlando City (B teams)
                                TBU (B teams)
                                FL West FC (Ft. Myers for those that have never heard of them)
                                FESA
                                FL Premier
                                FKK
                                Space Coast
                                Miramar
                                Palm Beach United

                                Brother, it’s honestly laughable and not even close. Yes, WFF, Boca, and SSA are not very strong clubs, but they would compete well in the FL ECNL conference. All the other MLS Next FL clubs would absolutely dominate ECNL. You need to wake up and take a dose of reality!

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