NYSC or CFC 2007

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Better training for what? If your choice is between NYSC and CFC branch soccer you have already made the decision that soccer training is not a priority, which is fine. Go wherever she has the most fun and leave if that changes.

I agree, but if her goal is to play in college, go to WCFC.

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What do you mean by that? Neither are good training options? What is then?

It is not about training, either she has the goods or she doesn't and how hard is she willing to work outside of practice to improve speed, strength, and ball skills. CFC branch team and NYSC are fine but the overall top-end talent will gravitate toward ECNL ( WC/CFC) and that is where you will know if your daughter has the goods or doesn't. Most of NYSC are bottom-of-the-standing teams in the GA and CFC branch teams are playing in a CT league mostly against other clubs 3rd team.

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What is important

What is important? This is coming from someone who has been in this for a while.

1. Pick the TEAM not the CLUB.

If you are a CLUB person, its a mistake. You must pick a good quality TEAM. Some clubs have good teams, and horrific ones. Don't join a horrific team hoping they 'build it'

2. Assuming teams are equal, go to the nearest

10 minutes each way, 25 minutes each way, two times a day, 3-4 days per week. Over the next 4 years THAT MATTERS.

3. Pick the TEAM with the coach that best meshes with your kid.

Coaching quality varies in clubs, and varies every 2 years or so. Make sure you have a good idea who your coach is for the next 1-2 years, and who MIGHT take it from there.

Coach is very, very important.

4. Club Culture - you have to agree with the culture

Each club has a culture. It can be a win at all costs. It can be player development. It can be have fun at all costs. It can be a mixture of all the above. Whatever the case may be, spend some real time investigating what the club culture or mission statement is. If you join that club, and they deviate from that mission statement, you know you made a mistake early.

5. Playing at CFC ECNL, its a major commitment. Playing at NYSC GAL is a major commitment. Playing for a CFC branch is, at least initially, a less of a commitment. Figure out what kind of child you have, and if they are really ready for that level of commitment ... they have to love it.

6. These four years matter..... so please take the above 5 points into consideration, I spent some time typing them out for you because these 4 years ARE important.... and this decision is also important.

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What is important? This is coming from someone who has been in this for a while.

1. Pick the TEAM not the CLUB.

If you are a CLUB person, its a mistake. You must pick a good quality TEAM. Some clubs have good teams, and horrific ones. Don't join a horrific team hoping they 'build it'

2. Assuming teams are equal, go to the nearest

10 minutes each way, 25 minutes each way, two times a day, 3-4 days per week. Over the next 4 years THAT MATTERS.

3. Pick the TEAM with the coach that best meshes with your kid.

Coaching quality varies in clubs, and varies every 2 years or so. Make sure you have a good idea who your coach is for the next 1-2 years, and who MIGHT take it from there.

Coach is very, very important.

4. Club Culture - you have to agree with the culture

Each club has a culture. It can be a win at all costs. It can be player development. It can be have fun at all costs. It can be a mixture of all the above. Whatever the case may be, spend some real time investigating what the club culture or mission statement is. If you join that club, and they deviate from that mission statement, you know you made a mistake early.

5. Playing at CFC ECNL, its a major commitment. Playing at NYSC GAL is a major commitment. Playing for a CFC branch is, at least initially, a less of a commitment. Figure out what kind of child you have, and if they are really ready for that level of commitment ... they have to love it.

6. These four years matter..... so please take the above 5 points into consideration, I spent some time typing them out for you because these 4 years ARE important.... and this decision is also important.

I agree with a lot of this but there are some additional points to consider:

- You can pick a team but many teams go through huge changes at these ages with new kids coming in and some long timers leaving or quitting the sport.

- Coaching is hard to go by because most clubs have a 1-2 year maximum assignment per team. This is why people end up shopping clubs over teams. All you can do is look at track record. Honestly, at the upper levels (perhaps not a CFC branch or NYSC EDP) both of these clubs are VERY focused on winning games.

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True true... but

I agree with a lot of this but there are some additional points to consider:

- You can pick a team but many teams go through huge changes at these ages with new kids coming in and some long timers leaving or quitting the sport.

- Coaching is hard to go by because most clubs have a 1-2 year maximum assignment per team. This is why people end up shopping clubs over teams. All you can do is look at track record. Honestly, at the upper levels (perhaps not a CFC branch or NYSC EDP) both of these clubs are VERY focused on winning games.

While not ALL the time, most of the time clubs improve on players. If a player is about to quit the sport, its a 1 year slide that you can see their effort diminish, their training emphasis diminish. Not everyone has the drive or the love of the game to finish the maze. So while I agree that teams do go through changes, they tend to upgrade, not downgrade. Again, not all the time.

For a 2007, you likely have 2 more coaches in your run, and the last, your senior HS year, probably just doesn't matter as much on the coaching side.... you're already the player you will always be for the most part.

Coaching for 9th, 10th, 11th grade are the YEARS.

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Player Development vs Winning

There are some very good clubs out there, and thus some very good teams, that are not reaching their win/loss column potential because of their focus on player development.

This is not a bad thing, its just a thing.

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There are some very good clubs out there, and thus some very good teams, that are not reaching their win/loss column potential because of their focus on player development.

This is not a bad thing, its just a thing.

By the time the kids get to 11v11, no one is falling for that line of development over winning anymore. Ive seen these coaches who talk about playing out of the back and development drop everything to win games and start punting away and joysticking players around, including at both of the clubs we are talking about now.

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Connecticut Football Club ( CFC ) South branch (Stamford/greenwhich) or NYSC for girls 2007 soccer program. Any insight on who provides better training?

NYSC provides better training.

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Manhattan or Martini.

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Manhattan or Martini.

over priced either way if its bought in westchester or fairfield county.

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training

NYSC provides better training.

There is no question they train more times per week, and focus on the technicals of the game.

Word is though that the drop off in talent on nearly every team from the starting 11 down is a big drop.

We left a few years ago from that 07 team, kind of wish we hadn't now, they are getting better and others in the area getting worse.

Also now that NYSC GAL is allowing the kids to play HS soccer, is kind of a game changer.

Who knew

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There is no question they train more times per week, and focus on the technicals of the game.

Word is though that the drop off in talent on nearly every team from the starting 11 down is a big drop.

We left a few years ago from that 07 team, kind of wish we hadn't now, they are getting better and others in the area getting worse.

Also now that NYSC GAL is allowing the kids to play HS soccer, is kind of a game changer.

Who knew

Go back if your kid wants. They're not going to turn away a good player. There's definitely opportunity there.

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There is no question they train more times per week, and focus on the technicals of the game.

Word is though that the drop off in talent on nearly every team from the starting 11 down is a big drop.

We left a few years ago from that 07 team, kind of wish we hadn't now, they are getting better and others in the area getting worse.

Also now that NYSC GAL is allowing the kids to play HS soccer, is kind of a game changer.

Who knew

Not hard to look up results. This 07 team has won 1 game of their last 10 this spring. Have a look....

https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3388784

Team is headed down the exact same path as the 06, 05, 04 NYSC GAL teams.

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Not hard to look up results. This 07 team has won 1 game of their last 10 this spring. Have a look....

https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3388784

Team is headed down the exact same path as the 06, 05, 04 NYSC GAL teams.

GAL isn't a good option if you're a good player. It may not even be around after next year, but regardless the quality just isn't there. It's the old NPL is a new, cheap quality prom dress

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Not hard to look up results. This 07 team has won 1 game of their last 10 this spring. Have a look....

https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3388784

Team is headed down the exact same path as the 06, 05, 04 NYSC GAL teams.

NYSC has had the same issue for a few years, which is lack of depth. Training wise, CG provides a good curriculum and the kids do get a good education on how to play the game.