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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    AH HA. So not holding full scale tryouts to multiple age groups is a ploy to take on more players than other clubs who are holding big scale tryouts even for existing players?
    One question: Since SCA is not in OYSA (and not allowed in), will they honor registration holds imposed by OYSA clubs, or will they welcome players to join who have outstanding financial obligations to a prior club (and would be prevented from switching clubs until those are settled)?

    Seems that "if you're not happy with your current club, come play with us" could be a selling point. And if OYSA won't let them in, there's no reason for SCA to help OYSA clubs collect debts by refusing to admit players whose OYSA cards have been pulled...

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      One question: Since SCA is not in OYSA (and not allowed in), will they honor registration holds imposed by OYSA clubs, or will they welcome players to join who have outstanding financial obligations to a prior club (and would be prevented from switching clubs until those are settled)?

      Seems that "if you're not happy with your current club, come play with us" could be a selling point. And if OYSA won't let them in, there's no reason for SCA to help OYSA clubs collect debts by refusing to admit players whose OYSA cards have been pulled...
      You sound a bit bitter buddy. Hope all is well with you x

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Welcome to the SCA bubble. It's really a safe place for development...in Washington.

        Never mind we train on the turf of the SDA school at our SCA North American world headquarters near Mall 205. (S.eventh D.ay A.dventist)

        Too legit, too Quit.........
        Your on fire here 😂 Enjoy the weekend 😎

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          AH HA. So not holding full scale tryouts to multiple age groups is a ploy to take on more players than other clubs who are holding big scale tryouts even for existing players?
          Sure, send little Johnny over to SCA to get amazing training and "play up" against all of the 2nd and 3rd tier teams they invite to play friendlies.
          All of their superstar teams couldn't even hack playing on age in PSPL seeing as they were all knocked out of the WA CUP. If you don't care about results, want to watch them encourage defense to attempt to dribble though 8 players, ignore their options and try for goal, and let's not forget the bragging rights that your kid can play 2 years up, then they are the club for you!

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Sure, send little Johnny over to SCA to get amazing training and "play up" against all of the 2nd and 3rd tier teams they invite to play friendlies.
            All of their superstar teams couldn't even hack playing on age in PSPL seeing as they were all knocked out of the WA CUP. If you don't care about results, want to watch them encourage defense to attempt to dribble though 8 players, ignore their options and try for goal, and let's not forget the bragging rights that your kid can play 2 years up, then they are the club for you!
            Thanks for the insight Pep. Out of interest how many players have you worked with over a prolonged period who have gone on to the elite level of the game? Do tell us your development process of individuals and how this is working out long term? Or are you one of those guys in the 'three point game' with ten year olds ?

            Don't get angry bro get better !

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              #21
              I didn't realize SCA wasn't in the OYSA. Why is that?

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I didn't realize SCA wasn't in the OYSA. Why is that?
                They are a for-profit club for now.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  They are a for-profit club for now.
                  So they aren't a non-profit entity or a mission based neighborhood youth sports club serving a geographically defined Oregon community.

                  Conversely, it's a private foriegn business endeavor that slides ex-GPS staffers into the local S.D.A. school framework so they can secure a field while running their $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ enterprise.

                  They are based near Mall 205 & as most Oregonians know it's a historic destination for 'shopping' and has become the Covid/Woke nightly riot mob starting point.

                  To wit, it's also a great place for the slighted/passed over youth soccer players to conduct business during the pandemic.

                  BTW all business's can be called a for profit club, if you need to create a label.

                  Let's us know when they become a non-profit soccer club that serves it's membership and community....


                  Woke.

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                    #24
                    We have played them a few times and always has a different team, different players and the last time we noticed that they seemed to have kids from other clubs playing for them. This was a scrimmage so no real rules were broken but us parents were a little puzzled.

                    I will say we were very impressed with the teams ball skills, passing and offense. Defense not so much but they were great on the front half. You could tell that they work on footwork a lot and this was nice to see at this age group.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      We have played them a few times and always has a different team, different players and the last time we noticed that they seemed to have kids from other clubs playing for them. This was a scrimmage so no real rules were broken but us parents were a little puzzled.

                      I will say we were very impressed with the teams ball skills, passing and offense. Defense not so much but they were great on the front half. You could tell that they work on footwork a lot and this was nice to see at this age group.
                      They collect players. A lot of RCF players who want to use futsal skills on the big field and like the freedom of being able to do several programs because SCA can flow kids on and off teams as they need with no real league rules to adhere to. Coaches and trainers who join the club also seem to be from RCF. Probably not a bad place to do training for individual development, but I don't know if the kids learn to work as a team as much. Like you said. Good up top, but defense isn't really a priority.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So they aren't a non-profit entity or a mission based neighborhood youth sports club serving a geographically defined Oregon community.

                        Conversely, it's a private foriegn business endeavor that slides ex-GPS staffers into the local S.D.A. school framework so they can secure a field while running their $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ enterprise.

                        They are based near Mall 205 & as most Oregonians know it's a historic destination for 'shopping' and has become the Covid/Woke nightly riot mob starting point.

                        To wit, it's also a great place for the slighted/passed over youth soccer players to conduct business during the pandemic.

                        BTW all business's can be called a for profit club, if you need to create a label.

                        Let's us know when they become a non-profit soccer club that serves it's membership and community....


                        Woke.


                        You went off there didn't you. Good for you tiger.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          We have played them a few times and always has a different team, different players and the last time we noticed that they seemed to have kids from other clubs playing for them. This was a scrimmage so no real rules were broken but us parents were a little puzzled.

                          I will say we were very impressed with the teams ball skills, passing and offense. Defense not so much but they were great on the front half. You could tell that they work on footwork a lot and this was nice to see at this age group.
                          I think this is an interesting take. I would comment that defensive principles are certainly less of a priority in the foundation phase of any academy worth it's salt. But each to there own !

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I think this is an interesting take. I would comment that defensive principles are certainly less of a priority in the foundation phase of any academy worth it's salt. But each to there own !
                            Defense has long been disrespected in the soccer world... Lots of coaches out there seem to act as though defenders are a dime a dozen, and any fool can be taught to play defense, but dribbling and shooting at a high level is a skill only acquired at great price. Once a player is placed in a primarily defensive role in their development pathway, that they have reached their peak.

                            Unfortunately, many teams are bad at defense, and many players dislike to play it.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Defense has long been disrespected in the soccer world... Lots of coaches out there seem to act as though defenders are a dime a dozen, and any fool can be taught to play defense, but dribbling and shooting at a high level is a skill only acquired at great price. Once a player is placed in a primarily defensive role in their development pathway, that they have reached their peak.

                              Unfortunately, many teams are bad at defense, and many players dislike to play it.
                              Of course you quite right it's a fundamental part of the game and good habits should be installed from early such as the willingness to press. My point above being it's not a primary focus at the younger ages. Dominating 1v1 scenarios take focus along with being technically competent. As you move to the next phase on player development more focus is shown on defensive attributes both technically and tactically.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Of course you quite right it's a fundamental part of the game and good habits should be installed from early such as the willingness to press. My point above being it's not a primary focus at the younger ages. Dominating 1v1 scenarios take focus along with being technically competent. As you move to the next phase on player development more focus is shown on defensive attributes both technically and tactically.
                                And in general, I agree with this. Technique before tactics before strategy. Don't bother teach 10-year-olds zonal marking and such.

                                But there is a technique involved marking, and in every 1v1 situation (ignoring 50/50 balls) there is one player with the ball who is trying to keep it, and one player without who is trying to take it away; and being able to dispossess someone (without fouling) is a learned skill every bit as much as being able to get past the defender.

                                And defenders who are good with their feet (think Van Dijk or Kante, or Diego Chara at the MLS level) are valuable.

                                Yet there are too many clubs out there who seem to take the view that defense is where you put the players whose ball skills are lacking, who are then told that their job is little more than hustle, hacking, and hoofing it.

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