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    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Apparently the parents and players dont care either .... see FSA .... no wins, no skills, no development, no schollies, pay a fortune!!! .... SIGN ME UP BABY!!!
    Okay, okay, we get it. You have it in for FSA. I have no affiliation with them, or any other Premier Club but you are missing the obvious and overstating the minuscule.

    Upper level Pay to Play models are actually devoid of coaching in the traditional sense. This is not a slam on those that head up those teams, but it is actually a management position. Just as Professional soccer teams are managed, these select teams of a limited number of applicants , perceived as the top of the heap are managed and trained.

    Coaching, true coaching is done at the younger ages before the vast assembling of players that are strictly to obtain results from fixtures. The “ showcases” the alphabet leagues , they are all there to ensure results to better the brand , increase loyalty and to increase revenue.

    The fact is, a child does not have to win to develop. A child does not need a scholarship from soccer to enjoy and benefit from the activity. Paying a “ fortune” is strictly an opinion, as one person’s idea of what a fortune is may be different from another’s.. Parents may choose dance, music, other arts,sports and pay perceived “ fortunes” without getting scholarships, turning Professional or using it a as stepping stone for other endeavors.Here’s some news for you. Parents may pay, and a child may participate in something because they may enjoy it.

    What is disturbing at times is the absolute lack of humility by some soccer parents, acting like elitist snobs denigrating others for their choices ,and even stooping to outright Degradation of children. I suppose it is a consequence of the system in place, but it actually presents an extremely poor example to children.

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      #62
      All of these high end youth activities are designed to pry dollars out of the wallets of elitists. Lots of people compete through the kids....dc is on the best team, at the best club, competes in the best piano competition, wins at the best dance competition, scores well on the best test, attends the best college and so on and so on.

      It is the basis of the business model. In soccer they put elite right in the name is the league in case there is any confusion.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        All of these high end youth activities are designed to pry dollars out of the wallets of elitists. Lots of people compete through the kids....dc is on the best team, at the best club, competes in the best piano competition, wins at the best dance competition, scores well on the best test, attends the best college and so on and so on.

        It is the basis of the business model. In soccer they put elite right in the name is the league in case there is any confusion.
        What's sad is that not all families are well off but solidly middle class. They're making choices so their kids can participate in pricey sports. If they're doing it purely because their kids (and they) enjoy it that's great. But some do secretly hope for a payout - scholarship or better school - that may never materialize

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          What's sad is that not all families are well off but solidly middle class. They're making choices so their kids can participate in pricey sports. If they're doing it purely because their kids (and they) enjoy it that's great. But some do secretly hope for a payout - scholarship or better school - that may never materialize
          Life can get a whole lot worse than that my friend. Failure has lessons in it.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Life can get a whole lot worse than that my friend. Failure has lessons in it.
            Sure, I guess. Still hard to watch hopeful parents and kids who you know just won't make it. They'd be better off playing locally for fun and putting that $ away for college. Rich people piss their $ away all the time

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              #66
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Sure, I guess. Still hard to watch hopeful parents and kids who you know just won't make it. They'd be better off playing locally for fun and putting that $ away for college. Rich people piss their $ away all the time
              Absolutely. And the youth sports industry has mastered how to lap up a lot of that piss.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                What's sad is that not all families are well off but solidly middle class. They're making choices so their kids can participate in pricey sports. If they're doing it purely because their kids (and they) enjoy it that's great. But some do secretly hope for a payout - scholarship or better school - that may never materialize
                The same could be said about paying for private high schools. Doesn’t always pay off. Or moving to a town for the school system. Sometimes the competition is too fierce. There are no guarantees in life. Take your shot and see what happens. You’ll miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The same could be said about paying for private high schools. Doesn’t always pay off. Or moving to a town for the school system. Sometimes the competition is too fierce. There are no guarantees in life. Take your shot and see what happens. You’ll miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
                  You are equating a high school education to youth sports? You are the dream customer.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You are equating a high school education to youth sports? You are the dream customer.
                    Let’s not pretend you get something more out of a private education. Please. I know you desperately want to believe that, but you are not that special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying matter as everyone else.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      You are equating a high school education to youth sports? You are the dream customer.
                      You are the dream private school customer.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You are equating a high school education to youth sports? You are the dream customer.
                        Let me help you out here. Most private schools are small. The competition is fierce academically. High end colleges aren’t taking too many kids from the same school. In many instances, a good student is better being at the top of a public school.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Let me help you out here. Most private schools are small. The competition is fierce academically. High end colleges aren’t taking too many kids from the same school. In many instances, a good student is better being at the top of a public school.
                          The poster also equated a public high school education to youth sports. Ridiculous. All deluxe youth sports could disappear tomorrow and the earth would continue to spin along just fine.

                          Same cannot be said of taking away someone's HS education, be it public or private. Good luck getting by without an education.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Let me help you out here. Most private schools are small. The competition is fierce academically. High end colleges aren’t taking too many kids from the same school. In many instances, a good student is better being at the top of a public school.
                            Not all private schools are small and not all are academically challenging either. So what if competition "is fierce" at a top public HS? It's FREE and competition is a good thing. If you're applying in the region, most colleges know which schools are the better ones and whose students do well at their colleges. They know a GPA at one school is harder to get than at another. People don't realize how strong most MA public schools are. Move down south and you'll be horrified at the systems there

                            Run the math and see if moving to a more expensive town with a top district is cheaper than 4 years of private HS (let alone K-8) x however many kids you have - even if that means downsizing a lot. I can guarantee the public HS option is cheaper especially if you factor in SALT deductions. Even at an "affordable" private with $24K a year tuition that's basically $100K for one kid to go to private school. The better privates cost way more than that.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Not all private schools are small and not all are academically challenging either. So what if competition "is fierce" at a top public HS? It's FREE and competition is a good thing. If you're applying in the region, most colleges know which schools are the better ones and whose students do well at their colleges. They know a GPA at one school is harder to get than at another. People don't realize how strong most MA public schools are. Move down south and you'll be horrified at the systems there

                              Run the math and see if moving to a more expensive town with a top district is cheaper than 4 years of private HS (let alone K-8) x however many kids you have - even if that means downsizing a lot. I can guarantee the public HS option is cheaper especially if you factor in SALT deductions. Even at an "affordable" private with $24K a year tuition that's basically $100K for one kid to go to private school. The better privates cost way more than that.
                              Oops looks like a MA poster ^ but same applies to CT as well.

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