Widener University Women's Soccer

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Can't seem to get an answer to that, everyone seems to be pretty vague and circumspect.

The answer is some of the players didn't like him! At the end of the day maybe this shouldn't cause you to be let go, but at a small private college that depends on tuition it’s important that you retain the players. They have struggled to retain players and have had few last beyond their second year. The women are unhappy, and when you play D-III the experience is important. The school is spending money to recruit players to pay tuition and with the hope that those players will graduate and give back to the school someday. If players are leaving the program after a year or two, there is a problem, there isn’t a return on the recruiting investment and players won’t give back to a place they were unhappy. If players are not staying on the team then there is a problem! Certainly it is challenging to have a roster comprised of nursing students, but other coaches have found a way.

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The answer is some of the players didn't like him! At the end of the day maybe this shouldn't cause you to be let go, but at a small private college that depends on tuition it’s important that you retain the players. They have struggled to retain players and have had few last beyond their second year. The women are unhappy, and when you play D-III the experience is important. The school is spending money to recruit players to pay tuition and with the hope that those players will graduate and give back to the school someday. If players are leaving the program after a year or two, there is a problem, there isn’t a return on the recruiting investment and players won’t give back to a place they were unhappy. If players are not staying on the team then there is a problem! Certainly it is challenging to have a roster comprised of nursing students, but other coaches have found a way.

Probably also explains the better results. Dead wood/complainers move on and those with fortitude work it out.

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Seniors

The answer is some of the players didn't like him! At the end of the day maybe this shouldn't cause you to be let go, but at a small private college that depends on tuition it’s important that you retain the players. They have struggled to retain players and have had few last beyond their second year. The women are unhappy, and when you play D-III the experience is important. The school is spending money to recruit players to pay tuition and with the hope that those players will graduate and give back to the school someday. If players are leaving the program after a year or two, there is a problem, there isn’t a return on the recruiting investment and players won’t give back to a place they were unhappy. If players are not staying on the team then there is a problem! Certainly it is challenging to have a roster comprised of nursing students, but other coaches have found a way.

Most D3 have few seniors tbh.

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Probably also explains the better results. Dead wood/complainers move on and those with fortitude work it out.

The only results that matters is having and keeping 25 women on the roster paying $65,000 a year.

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Pay

The only results that matters is having and keeping 25 women on the roster paying $65,000 a year.

Wouldn't the goal be to keep 25 students and then have those that can play soccer play soccer.

Who cares about the whiners/quitters? The tuition gets paid either way.

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Wouldn't the goal be to keep 25 students and then have those that can play soccer play soccer.

Who cares about the whiners/quitters? The tuition gets paid either way.

Let’s be honest - does anyone really care about Wideners women’s soccer?? Or any other women’s college soccer? Have you ever been to a women’s college soccer game - not many people other than parents watching.

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Probably also explains the better results. Dead wood/complainers move on and those with fortitude work it out.

Not always. People move to new jobs too when environment not working.

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Let’s be honest - does anyone really care about Wideners women’s soccer?? Or any other women’s college soccer? Have you ever been to a women’s college soccer game - not many people other than parents watching.

Agreed. And students; friends.
But this is Talking Soccer so kind of relevant on this Board.

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The answer is some of the players didn't like him! At the end of the day maybe this shouldn't cause you to be let go, but at a small private college that depends on tuition it’s important that you retain the players. They have struggled to retain players and have had few last beyond their second year. The women are unhappy, and when you play D-III the experience is important. The school is spending money to recruit players to pay tuition and with the hope that those players will graduate and give back to the school someday. If players are leaving the program after a year or two, there is a problem, there isn’t a return on the recruiting investment and players won’t give back to a place they were unhappy. If players are not staying on the team then there is a problem! Certainly it is challenging to have a roster comprised of nursing students, but other coaches have found a way.

There was a lawsuit.

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Let’s be honest - does anyone really care about Wideners women’s soccer?? Or any other women’s college soccer? Have you ever been to a women’s college soccer game - not many people other than parents watching.

Don’t restrict that to women’s soccer …. Sounds like almost all soccer in America. Even at most D1 attendance is sparse save for parents and a few spirited students watching their friends and supporting the school (which happens at all levels). For most D3 games are relatively local short bus rides. Imagine having a D1 program that draws similar crowds and requires lots of plane rides, hotels, and coaching staff. Is it any wonder that university of Hartford went to D3 from D1? Honestly, it’s surprising many more don’t.

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That's Pretty Circumspect

There was a lawsuit.

And what were the details of this lawsuit?

I find the reason "some of the players didn't like him" a pretty weak reason to let a coach go. I thought the reason why we got our children involved in things like athletics is so that they could learn to deal with adversity.

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And what were the details of this lawsuit?

I find the reason "some of the players didn't like him" a pretty weak reason to let a coach go. I thought the reason why we got our children involved in things like athletics is so that they could learn to deal with adversity.

Why should players have the "adversity" of having to play for a coach that is not wanted? They are paying for a quality experience at $65,000 a year. Get it right or be gone. Athletic contracts at the D-III level are year to year so they can choose to not bring you back for any reason. In PA you can be let go from your job for any reason.

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Why should players have the "adversity" of having to play for a coach that is not wanted? They are paying for a quality experience at $65,000 a year. Get it right or be gone. Athletic contracts at the D-III level are year to year so they can choose to not bring you back for any reason. In PA you can be let go from your job for any reason.

FB, MBB, WBB are the only scholarships that are gauranteed for four years.

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FB, MBB, WBB are the only scholarships that are gauranteed for four years.

what does that have to do with D-III sports?

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FB, MBB, WBB are the only scholarships that are gauranteed for four years.

Why should players have the "adversity" of having to play for a coach that is not wanted? They are paying for a quality experience at $65,000 a year. Get it right or be gone. Athletic contracts at the D-III level are year to year so they can choose to not bring you back for any reason. In PA you can be let go from your job for any reason.

Athletic contracts (for coaching staff) at the D-III level are year to year