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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Every game is difficult.. Every single week! 05 Blue is loaded.. Lot of great players on 05 White..
    i believe stars has gotten lazy as a club or, more accurately, they are behaving like a club with little competition. not much effort to make sure the coaches are quality across the board. no standardization of expectations for coaches across the club - stars should have a "stars way" of doing things that's top notch. they don't. communication with parents, even players, is totally hit or miss depending on the coach. many of us keep pointing out that they are a business but the reality is they don't act like it. they are successful at the moment almost exclusively because of ecnl and the perceived lack of options for serious college hopefuls. if some other MA club got into ECNL stars would have to change how they operate or they'd be in trouble.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Well, FSA for starters. I thought that was evident with their sub .100 record, but maybe not...
      Ok, and then what? That’s one club.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Someone brought up the U16's, so looking at Stars White league results they are 4-6-1.

        They have results against FSA (1-7-0) with a win; East Meadow (0-7-2) with a win and a draw; SUSA (4-6-1) with a win; and a big win against PDA White [their second team] (5-3-2).

        Throwing blanks at the top teams in their league.

        At least East Meadow is somewhat competitive when looking at all the age groups; FSA? Good lord.....Something like 6-45-3 (-ish).

        U17 Stars White is the only team above .500.
        There will be more competitive White teams in the future. It's just a matter of time. It takes time to build it. And remember that White has only existed for 2 seasons prior to this year.

        Obviously it also comes with the caveat that every age group is different: some age groups you may be competitive and others may not. This is no different than any other club.

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          #34
          Stars should stop pretending to be PDA and get real that fielding one team at each age woukd result in actually having a program worthy of national recognition. If they want to be mentioned in the same breath at pda or solar then thats wht they have to do. As of now, its just fast cash.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Stars should stop pretending to be PDA and get real that fielding one team at each age woukd result in actually having a program worthy of national recognition. If they want to be mentioned in the same breath at pda or solar then thats wht they have to do. As of now, its just fast cash.
            That's exactly right and the fast cash is more important than the national recognition. Plain and simple. They can churn out mediocre teams, a good one every once in awhile, give twice the number ECNL exposure and bring in twice the cash.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              That's exactly right and the fast cash is more important than the national recognition. Plain and simple. They can churn out mediocre teams, a good one every once in awhile, give twice the number ECNL exposure and bring in twice the cash.
              They are still the best option in MA though...

              NEFC all of their teams are very average with an occassional good one
              Scorps all of their teams are average to below average
              SSS all of their teams are average to below average

              What are we all complaining about? It is not like there are better alternatives in the state...

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                That's exactly right and the fast cash is more important than the national recognition. Plain and simple. They can churn out mediocre teams, a good one every once in awhile, give twice the number ECNL exposure and bring in twice the cash.
                Here is the problem with MA / CT ECNL teams. To compete with the top half, they need to have most if not all of the top players. Right now, they have too many top end players choosing other options. Even with the ECNL or bust propaganda thrown at them. Talent does consolidate some by U15 but they need complete consolidation to compete with top half of tables in each age group.

                Will be interesting to see how the next 3 years play out. Yes, ECNL is the top competition platform but consumer tastes change all the time. Might more remain content to stay with clubs that they grew up with? I know I know if they want to play D1.....ECNL ECNL ECNL.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  That's exactly right and the fast cash is more important than the national recognition. Plain and simple. They can churn out mediocre teams, a good one every once in awhile, give twice the number ECNL exposure and bring in twice the cash.
                  YES! and give twice the number of girls the opportunity to feel good about their future.

                  In all but one age groups Stars has a team way better than Scorps and then their 2nd Team is equivalent to Scorps ("=" means within 1 win)

                  18s Blue is atop Table, White = Scorpions
                  17s White is better, Blue = Scorpions
                  16s Blue is atop Table, White = Scorpions
                  15s All below .500, Scorps is king of the nerds
                  14s White = Scorpions, Blue bottom of table
                  13s Blue is best, White = Scorpions

                  https://public.totalglobalsports.com...ce-standings/9

                  #Facts. Stars may be greedy, but their second tier product is an equal or better option that then other ECNL option for families.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    They are still the best option in MA though...

                    NEFC all of their teams are very average with an occassional good one
                    Scorps all of their teams are average to below average
                    SSS all of their teams are average to below average

                    What are we all complaining about? It is not like there are better alternatives in the state...
                    Table doesn’t agree:

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                    U14- U18- Average place on 9 team NE ECNL table:

                    Blue 5.2
                    Scorpions 5.8
                    White 5.8

                    All three are in the middle third. Perfectly fine for showcases opportunities

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                      #40
                      Stars white is a pretty good B team. They’ll be fine.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Stars white is a pretty good B team. They’ll be fine.
                        I like the new marketing message from ECNL:

                        "We've got some pretty good B teams. They'll be fine. Please send cash."

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I like the new marketing message from ECNL:

                          "We've got some pretty good B teams. They'll be fine. Please send cash."
                          That works and it's true. But I like this better and it's also true
                          "Our B Teams are better than their A teams. Chose your future"

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            That works and it's true. But I like this better and it's also true
                            "Our B Teams are better than their A teams. Chose your future"
                            ^^^^^^^^^

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Table doesn’t agree:

                              Default
                              U14- U18- Average place on 9 team NE ECNL table:

                              Blue 5.2
                              Scorpions 5.8
                              White 5.8

                              All three are in the middle third. Perfectly fine for showcases opportunities
                              Where you getting your numbers from Hoss?

                              According to ECNL Table across all ages (13s to Composite)
                              https://public.totalglobalsports.com...ce-standings/9

                              Average Wins: Blue 5.3; White 4.3; Scorp 3.6
                              Average PPG: Blue 1.9; White 1.3; Scorps 1.2
                              Average Place: Blue 4.0; White 5.7; Scorps 5.7 (lower better on this one)

                              More detailed look at Place across division from young to old
                              Blue: 2, 8, 8, 1, 7, 1, 1
                              White: 4, 6, 2, 7 ,7, 6, 8
                              Scorps: 3, 7, 8, 3, 5, 5, 9

                              So, there is no measure whereby Scorps is "better" than white, and they are a distant second to blue in all categories.

                              The "story" in these numbers is how Blue ages. Blue is dominating the NE conference in 3 out of oldest 4 years - you know, the years when kids get recruited. As for those 8th place teams at u14 - they will be replaced soon enough as the parents of the good players on other teams smell blood in the water.

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                                #45
                                “Where you getting your numbers from hoss?”

                                Work on your reading comprehension.

                                “U14- U18- Average place on 9 team NE ECNL table.”

                                Blue 5.2
                                Scorpions 5.8
                                White 5.8

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