BC woman’s soccer

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Clemson dont, but you need better possession players than those attract. BC has no shot of doing that consistently

This talk about BC trying to be a possession style team is rubbish; and that goes for most American women’s college teams. Youth clubs are 90% direct, kick and chase. You can watch the College Cup and count the teams who play a true possession style on one hand. American college soccer has too little time to identify and train players in a style they are are unaccustomed to playing and the frequent game schedule doesn’t encourage it either. You don’t recruit experienced possession style players from U of Arizona or Ireland as JL has done.

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This talk about BC trying to be a possession style team is rubbish; and that goes for most American women’s college teams. Youth clubs are 90% direct, kick and chase. You can watch the College Cup and count the teams who play a true possession style on one hand. American college soccer has too little time to identify and train players in a style they are are unaccustomed to playing and the frequent game schedule doesn’t encourage it either. You don’t recruit experienced possession style players from U of Arizona or Ireland as JL has done.

Some clubs are possession style do taught in youth. Most teams getting in and winning college cup (let's use a normal season) are the possession style. Stanford, FSU, UVa, Duke, UCLA, PSU, Wis, A&M, West Virg, Georgetown,... They mix it up. Most will go over the top/direct too when mids are clogged or clogged.

Which is why it is key to get a possession style gk and one that can read field, get set and direct defenders how to play for the mixture of styles.

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Some clubs are possession style do taught in youth. Most teams getting in and winning college cup (let's use a normal season) are the possession style. Stanford, FSU, UVa, Duke, UCLA, PSU, Wis, A&M, West Virg, Georgetown,... They mix it up. Most will go over the top/direct too when mids are clogged or clogged.

Which is why it is key to get a possession style gk and one that can read field, get set and direct defenders how to play for the mixture of styles.

*mids are clogged or not as effective.

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JL will find it very hard to recruit possession players of the quality required to challenge Duke, UVA,FSU or UNC. Let alone Louisville, Clemson or NC State. The US youth system does not produce them. He needs to find a way to win with local talent. Thats means grit, solid defense, set pieces and counter attacking. Possession will not work at BC.

^^^^ this x 100. BC is not going to draw highly skilled possession players to New England to play in the cold on a crappy turf field with no one watching. BC is much better off recruiting big, physical players that turn the "beautiful game" into smashmouth soccer. If they can defend, maul the opposition's best players, and score a goal or two on counters, they have a chance to beat the more talented teams. They simply have to break up an attack, blast it long 20 times a game, and have 1 or 2 physical forwards who can finish. They don't need much of a success rate with this strategy to score enough to win 12 games a year - 5 in their conference. The FSU game 2 years ago was pretty close to the blueprint.

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^^^^ this x 100. BC is not going to draw highly skilled possession players to New England to play in the cold on a crappy turf field with no one watching. BC is much better off recruiting big, physical players that turn the "beautiful game" into smashmouth soccer. If they can defend, maul the opposition's best players, and score a goal or two on counters, they have a chance to beat the more talented teams. They simply have to break up an attack, blast it long 20 times a game, and have 1 or 2 physical forwards who can finish. They don't need much of a success rate with this strategy to score enough to win 12 games a year - 5 in their conference. The FSU game 2 years ago was pretty close to the blueprint.

JL needs the heave ho asap

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JL needs the heave ho asap

His hiring is such an obvious mistake. Imagine the interview scenario: a clueless AD who is impressed by a coach from another ACC school. He's dazzled by promises of a slick, possession style of play that will rival that of the powerhouses at UVa and FSU. He knows nothing about the realities of soccer, recruiting and how to scrape together enough wins to make the tournament. Now they're stuck in between, with a mismatched roster, a playing style that won't work, a horrible record, and no end in sight.

Other than that, it's all good.

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^^^^ this x 100. BC is not going to draw highly skilled possession players to New England to play in the cold on a crappy turf field with no one watching. BC is much better off recruiting big, physical players that turn the "beautiful game" into smashmouth soccer. If they can defend, maul the opposition's best players, and score a goal or two on counters, they have a chance to beat the more talented teams. They simply have to break up an attack, blast it long 20 times a game, and have 1 or 2 physical forwards who can finish. They don't need much of a success rate with this strategy to score enough to win 12 games a year - 5 in their conference. The FSU game 2 years ago was pretty close to the blueprint.

So not soccer; rugby right? No real soccer skill needed.
BC only won that game on a bogus pk and DC of FSU looking kind of disinterested about being in Boston. I was at game. Foul was well outside of box. Homer refs gifted it.

And that was not smashmouth soccer. MK doe not allow his team to get cheap.

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His hiring is such an obvious mistake. Imagine the interview scenario: a clueless AD who is impressed by a coach from another ACC school. He's dazzled by promises of a slick, possession style of play that will rival that of the powerhouses at UVa and FSU. He knows nothing about the realities of soccer, recruiting and how to scrape together enough wins to make the tournament. Now they're stuck in between, with a mismatched roster, a playing style that won't work, a horrible record, and no end in sight.

Other than that, it's all good.

Why are you still chiming in? Didn't your Mia transfer after you bad mouthed coach and got your wish, a new coach. And now that isn't good enough either.

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Why are you still chiming in? Didn't your Mia transfer after you bad mouthed coach and got your wish, a new coach. And now that isn't good enough either.

Exactly. See the pattern here.

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Why are you still chiming in? Didn't your Mia transfer after you bad mouthed coach and got your wish, a new coach. And now that isn't good enough either.

These are the same; when you wish upon a "star" parents. Think they know soccer when actually never taught game and stunned when mia does not play.

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New England style bootball (kick and chase) is not soccer. This is why they have zero success.
Rec leagues play this way everywhere else.

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Not every team takes this "valid tactic". It is a cowardly way of play.
If a team just kicks around a ball instead of continuing to score, most coaches find that humiliating. No difference in the spirit of the game.
West Virg took 20 shots; went home because Rice bunkered and drew a pk. I understood Rice doing it. They were happy to be there. I was disappointed in Duke thinking the same.

Why? Is this the first time you have watched Duke play? They do that vs every good possession team they face. They do not have the horses to play an open game with FSU or UVA. College soccer is about winning. Its not a development platform. Most coaches are trying to win to keep jbs/get better ones. The coaches with tenure could be more forward thinking in playing style, but when AD is celebrated, why would they? WVU do the same thing vs good passing teams because that is how they can win. They are a counter attacking team and need to set up the counter.

Ironic that at the level where winning actually matters, posters are talking spirit of the game. But in youth soccer, club or HS, the spirit of the game part seems to disappear and its all about winning. The system is backwards. Teach the kids better in an environment where learning is valued more and maybe you would see better soccer in College.

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^^^^ this x 100. BC is not going to draw highly skilled possession players to New England to play in the cold on a crappy turf field with no one watching. BC is much better off recruiting big, physical players that turn the "beautiful game" into smashmouth soccer. If they can defend, maul the opposition's best players, and score a goal or two on counters, they have a chance to beat the more talented teams. They simply have to break up an attack, blast it long 20 times a game, and have 1 or 2 physical forwards who can finish. They don't need much of a success rate with this strategy to score enough to win 12 games a year - 5 in their conference. The FSU game 2 years ago was pretty close to the blueprint.

Clearly you watch the games. This comment

"Most teams getting in and winning college cup (let's use a normal season) are the possession style. Stanford, FSU, UVa, Duke, UCLA, PSU, Wis, A&M, West Virg, Georgetown,... They mix it up. Most will go over the top/direct too when mids are clogged or clogged."

Duke,PSU,WVU, Georgetown are not possession teams when faced with equal of superior opposition. Possession team means that is your default style of play. Duke and PSU default to low block vs the better teams. Georgetown similar. Possession teams pass it into midfield when it is clogged because it creates even more space elsewhere. Thats is why its hard to do. You have to find players who are comfortable receiving the ball under immediate pressure and we dont produce those. We dont play that way.

Rice played in a low block vs a good possession team and they got manhandled. Being a good possession team is more than keeping the ball. Its creating chances from open play IN possession as well.

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New England style bootball (kick and chase) is not soccer. This is why they have zero success.
Rec leagues play this way everywhere else.

Not true. Its why they wont have success playing possession style in the ACC. The best players are not looking at BC and you need a lot of them to play that way. Why do you think other programs are emulating FSU and bringing in more and more foreign talent ? the player pool here tends to produce one "type" of player and the exceptions are in such high demand, that BC are never going to get them consistently enough vs Duke,FSU,UVA,UNC etc. to matter in the ACC.

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Clearly you watch the games. This comment

"Most teams getting in and winning college cup (let's use a normal season) are the possession style. Stanford, FSU, UVa, Duke, UCLA, PSU, Wis, A&M, West Virg, Georgetown,... They mix it up. Most will go over the top/direct too when mids are clogged or clogged."

Duke,PSU,WVU, Georgetown are not possession teams when faced with equal of superior opposition. Possession team means that is your default style of play. Duke and PSU default to low block vs the better teams. Georgetown similar. Possession teams pass it into midfield when it is clogged because it creates even more space elsewhere. Thats is why its hard to do. You have to find players who are comfortable receiving the ball under immediate pressure and we dont produce those. We dont play that way.

Rice played in a low block vs a good possession team and they got manhandled. Being a good possession team is more than keeping the ball. Its creating chances from open play IN possession as well.

May explain the lack of national championships with Duke, Georgetown, WVu then. Duke back in the day (2015, 2017...played possession. Was at both (vs PSU in finals.. And Duke and PSU played possession; and 2017 semi's vs UCLA (went to pk's). Duke played possession then too. Last time they were in college cups.