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    #91
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Imagine how devastated TBU will be when FP gets ECNL on the girls side. They are struggling to maintain their position with FP only having regional and since they depend on new players coming in every year to cover up the lack of development, the model breaks if they can't be on top. Case in point, look at the downslide on the boys side.
    You are comparing apples to oranges when lumping both boys and girls together. Completely different top leagues vs secondary leagues on boys (MLS vs ECNL vs ECNL-R vs Florida Club League (FCL) 1 vs FL Club League 2) vs girls (ECNL vs ECNL-R vs Florida Club League 1 vs Florida Club League 2). Let’s not confuse people by bringing boys into the mix and just talk about the girls.

    ECNL headquarters isn’t going to grant FL Premier - or any club - the top league of girls ECNL (not same as second level ECNL-R) if you don’t have the talent resources available in the geographic area - across all age groups -to succeed. If ECNL made that mistake, it would cause competing girls ECNL clubs in the same geographic area (TBU) to be watered down within the ECNL league resulting in those current ECNL girl clubs (TBU and club x) losing competitiveness in the entire Southeast league .

    Best way to gauge whether that local talent exists, or not, on the girls side is looking at results of 2009s since you can compare apples to apples since they are in the same general leagues (CDL / ECNL-R) and play in similar tournaments at times before they jump at U13 to ECNL from U12 pre-ECNL (TBU) and U13 ECNL-R from pre-ECNL-R (Fl Premier). But when you do it, be honest with which team(s) you are comparing since there is usually an A and a B team (clubs and parents know which the club has designated, regardless of what is on their club website).

    Everybody knows that girls ECNL teams like TBU U13 and older don’t play FL Premier unless it is some strange circumstance (like tournament) since they aren’t in the same league (FL Premier is in ECNL-R instead). Nor is one game between a 2007 ECNL-R (Florida Premier) vs 2007 ECNL (TBU) enough to make some grand generalized conclusion either. Nor is a weekend of a clubs first teams (Florida Premier ECNL-R) against another clubs B teams (TBU’s ECNL-R) a comparable gauge either of available local girls talent.

    ECNL is actually doing the area - and FL Premier - a favor by not granting FL Premier girls ECNL. Looking at U12 results from local games vs ECNL clubs (TBU) is best way to gauge LOCAL talent before comparing to outside areas and their clubs. Another gauge is club results in tournaments, whether held with only FL top ECNL-R teams in Glen Allen at Jefferson Cup (FL Premier did less .500) or a mix clubs in New Port Richey (FL Premier did less .500 on girls side) are just one enlightening factor a league like ECNL considers.

    Unfortunately, there just isn’t enough of that LOCAL talent on the girls side in the Tampa Bay area to justify another ECNL girls club in addition to TBU. All of the marketing & hiring for marketing in the world isn’t going to change the amount of talent that is available in the area (currently split between ECNL at TBU and GAL (formerly girls DA) at West Florida Flames). You can recruit Rec players and build rosters to look big, it isn’t changing the quantity or lack thereof of top talent. Period. Size of club doesn’t change finite availability of talent on girls side in a geographic area. FL Premier doesn’t seem to understand that - much less that the numbers of talent are considerably lower on girls side than boys.

    Boys side is completely different in numbers in the talent pool. There is enough talent for several local MLS clubs for boys (Clearwater, WFF, TBU) and plenty of leftovers for 2nd boys league ECNL (TBU and FL Premier).

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      #92
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      AL has done a good job at TBU. Coaches that leave or get fired is because they don't do their job period. You get paid, your expected to work! That's why most of them have gone to other clubs.
      That’s not completely true. Some should have been fired or not renewed. However, if you kiss up to him you will keep your job. Also, while the UT mafia is slightly smaller at TBU but don’t think for a second they still don’t have influence. For some reason AL loves even though he did was very critical of him in his first 4-5 months here. AB is one of the biggest con artist in Tampa soccer history and he protects his fellow UT buddies. GF could not be saved because he is lazy and incompetent but ML still gets paid bc of AB and missing up to AL.

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        #93
        He doesn’t know how to manage or treat people and has a huge ego.

        TBU is struggling to get coaches for next season because the word is out how he treats everyone not in his inner circle.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          He doesn’t know how to manage or treat people and has a huge ego.

          TBU is struggling to get coaches for next season because the word is out how he treats everyone not in his inner circle.
          Maybe they can demote AL to Recreational Director and promote CD ("the Drizzer") to Sporting Director.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Maybe they can demote AL to Recreational Director and promote CD ("the Drizzer") to Sporting Director.
            I heard he is out. Surprising because he and AL were buddies for a while. AL was told that he is not good, arrogant and a poor communicator but promoted him anyway.

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              #96
              I have not heard good things about this guy. If half of it is true then he is not someone who
              Is going to be able to lead a youth club.

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                #97
                I heard same about Stuart Campbell and Wesley Chapel folks on Talking Soccer. How could such awful things be said to someone who has given himself to the community through playing caching for the Rowdies?

                I hear that AL got along with him and made a pact with Sporting Tampa Bay this time last year and made a video with him.

                Now I see Coach Stuart has been HIRED at Fl Premier to coach.

                If FL Premier likes Coach Stuart enough to hire him, I guess Coach Stuart and AL are OK guys after all.

                #UnitedForTampaBay

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I heard same about Stuart Campbell and Wesley Chapel folks on Talking Soccer. How could such awful things be said to someone who has given himself to the community through playing caching for the Rowdies?

                  I hear that AL got along with him and made a pact with Sporting Tampa Bay this time last year and made a video with him.

                  Now I see Coach Stuart has been HIRED at Fl Premier to coach.

                  If FL Premier likes Coach Stuart enough to hire him, I guess Coach Stuart and AL are OK guys after all.

                  #UnitedForTampaBay
                  Everything AL touches turns to shiite, except for this Fortnite idea, which is genius.

                  #UnitedForTampaBay

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                    #99
                    Have not heard how tryouts went for TBU. Only saw the coaches list for MLS and ECNL.

                    AL better hope all they have enough competitive teams to cover the bills.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Have not heard how tryouts went for TBU. Only saw the coaches list for MLS and ECNL.

                      AL better hope all they have enough competitive teams to cover the bills.
                      AL is a washed up c@cksucker. Why are you wasting time bringing him up and bumping this thread?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        AL is a washed up c@cksucker. Why are you wasting time bringing him up and bumping this thread?
                        Didn't know that you know AL personally is this what your boss tells you? The same could be said about the Balkin Bros and Lube Job who have no coaching background. Just Administrators who act like they know soccer...

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                          Do you get paid by the post or a flat monthly fee? Did you work out a commission for ACDC sign ups yet?

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Didn't know that you know AL personally is this what your boss tells you? The same could be said about the Balkin Bros and Lube Job who have no coaching background. Just Administrators who act like they know soccer...

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Have not heard how tryouts went for TBU. Only saw the coaches list for MLS and ECNL.

                            AL better hope all they have enough competitive teams to cover the bills.
                            FP has been awfully quiet since their failed tryouts.

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                              Never had more teams. Never had a better total group of players. This is the first time my kids team has had to deal with TBU contacting kids offering them free rides for "higher" teams so I'm sure a few will take the bait. Maybe a few will go the pro fortnite player path at TBU as well. But most would prefer not to be on winless teams sent to the slaughter with poor coaching.

                              Maybe some of the regular posters have been too busy winning US Club state championships. It definitely isn't the tryouts.

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              FP has been awfully quiet since their failed tryouts.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Never had more teams. Never had a better total group of players. This is the first time my kids team has had to deal with TBU contacting kids offering them free rides for "higher" teams so I'm sure a few will take the bait. Maybe a few will go the pro fortnite player path at TBU as well. But most would prefer not to be on winless teams sent to the slaughter with poor coaching.

                                Maybe some of the regular posters have been too busy winning US Club state championships. It definitely isn't the tryouts.
                                Your right you never had a better group of players since the Balkin Bros sent free ride offers to all the TBU players. Where is all these grassroots players that FP harps about since the coaching development is best in the nation. Still buy players hand over fist. As long as the FP faithful parents are ok with paying for TBU players on their dime then all is good. SMH

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