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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    What is the average parent supposed to do about the state of US soccer? They're just trying to get their kids through a very messy landscape as best they can. USSF is ultimately in charge and they suck - a bloated overpaid administration filled with non soccer people
    Business and greed have killed soccer in this country.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      What is the average parent supposed to do about the state of US soccer? They're just trying to get their kids through a very messy landscape as best they can. USSF is ultimately in charge and they suck - a bloated overpaid administration filled with non soccer people
      You should do exactly what you are doing - what is best for your kid and family. Sometimes that is counter to what is best for the game, the collective "good" (yes that is overly dramatic).

      But, in so doing, you can't complain about an entity that offered a different, better solution to avoid the situation we are in today. They tried, people said no, we all reap the consequences. Should you, me, anyone care? Probably not.

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        #18
        MF Shore 09's... #1 in state, #1 in region, #1 in the country, and #1 at the junior elite soccer camp at UNC.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Exactly. They sow constant chaos and then blame the players? Not going to pin the pandemic on them but the age change followed quicky by the launch of a huge new supposed super league followed by the quick exit of that league? Not helpful. Not helpful at all.
          Age group? Fine. Not sure how it killed it our abilities to play, but OK.

          AS for the rest, they can launch a league and provide a pathway, but if someone else markets their product better and it reaches the market better, then we have to learn to live with those results.

          USSoccer isn't to blame. They tried, the masses said "no". That's where we are at.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You should do exactly what you are doing - what is best for your kid and family. Sometimes that is counter to what is best for the game, the collective "good" (yes that is overly dramatic).

            But, in so doing, you can't complain about an entity that offered a different, better solution to avoid the situation we are in today. They tried, people said no, we all reap the consequences. Should you, me, anyone care? Probably not.
            The financial incentives are not in place to find and develop soccer talent. If usa wants talent id and development to be the outcome, they need to incentive talent id and development.

            The money now comes from families and the system reflects that. This system serves talent that can pay for their own development. Is that the best we have? Who knows but common sense would dictate that some is and some is not. And the talent that is not is not involved.

            Obviously us soccer is aware that that top teams must be subsidized to even hope to gather up the best available talent as is done on the boys side.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The financial incentives are not in place to find and develop soccer talent. If usa wants talent id and development to be the outcome, they need to incentive talent id and development.

              The money now comes from families and the system reflects that. This system serves talent that can pay for their own development. Is that the best we have? Who knows but common sense would dictate that some is and some is not. And the talent that is not is not involved.

              Obviously us soccer is aware that that top teams must be subsidized to even hope to gather up the best available talent as is done on the boys side.
              Agree with all that.

              What is the incentive for club's, and thereby parents? There isn't any.

              I don't see US Soccer as fault for this, though.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Age group? Fine. Not sure how it killed it our abilities to play, but OK.

                AS for the rest, they can launch a league and provide a pathway, but if someone else markets their product better and it reaches the market better, then we have to learn to live with those results.

                USSoccer isn't to blame. They tried, the masses said "no". That's where we are at.
                The masses do not seem to say no on the boys side. Yet they give the girls something different and expect a different outcome? That does not make sense.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The masses do not seem to say no on the boys side. Yet they give the girls something different and expect a different outcome? That does not make sense.
                  They didn't try to give them something different. The biggest complaint, far and away, no question, was HS.

                  Boys don't care about HS, and girls absolutely do. As soon as they tried to say "no HS" it was doomed.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    They didn't try to give them something different. The biggest complaint, far and away, no question, was HS.

                    Boys don't care about HS, and girls absolutely do. As soon as they tried to say "no HS" it was doomed.
                    Why are you skipping over the part about the top boys teams are subsidized? That is much more important. Very few families would choose HS over a subsidized academy.

                    When they are paying am arm a leg to participate? Then ok...dont charge me an arm and a leg and then crap all over my HS team. When you are paying for me to participate? Then ok...HS sucks.

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                      #25
                      the HS issue was such a clearly stupid hill for them to die on but in the end it doesn't matter. DA was killed for both and reality is that BDA was probably 95% of the decision and GDA an afterthought as always.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Why are you skipping over the part about the top boys teams are subsidized? That is much more important. Very few families would choose HS over a subsidized academy.

                        When they are paying am arm a leg to participate? Then ok...dont charge me an arm and a leg and then crap all over my HS team. When you are paying for me to participate? Then ok...HS sucks.
                        True. The suburban families pursued by high end soccer here pay a fortune in taxes to fund HS academics, music, sports etc. Then the clubs come along and say..too bad that you pay for that but that sucks so eat all that money and then pay us a lot more to teach your kids more meh soccer.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The should spend less time kneeling and more time training.
                          Girl, you know what your knees are for.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Sweden outclassed the US in every phase of the game
                            They also outclassed us in pandemic response!

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              They also outclassed us in pandemic response!
                              Yeah Bigly. :)

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                                #30
                                Of course we can complain. Instead of creating a platform to be managed by member clubs in the form of a partnership, USSF was greedy, overzealous and placed dumb restriction on clubs, coaches and players. USSF should have just created the DA platform and encourage fair and open competition to all, accountability and a pathway to college and USNT. They blew it and actually did the same exact thing they accused ECNL of doing (greed and power seeking).

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                You should do exactly what you are doing - what is best for your kid and family. Sometimes that is counter to what is best for the game, the collective "good" (yes that is overly dramatic).

                                But, in so doing, you can't complain about an entity that offered a different, better solution to avoid the situation we are in today. They tried, people said no, we all reap the consequences. Should you, me, anyone care? Probably not.

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