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    Why were we told we would have one coach right before tryouts now we are told we have different coach??

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Why were we told we would have one coach right before tryouts now we are told we have different coach??
    Not associated with them, but I've had that happen 4 out of the last 10 years. Not ideal, not necessarily uncommon either since decisions are sometimes made based on the coach.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Why were we told we would have one coach right before tryouts now we are told we have different coach??
      That could be a good thing or bad, depends on the coaches.

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        #4
        Depends on how you look at it. The coach switch could be a very good thing.

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          #5
          Someone posted about this months ago and had instructions on how to handle CSA's stunts by using partial credit card deposits that could be disputed.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Someone posted about this months ago and had instructions on how to handle CSA's stunts by using partial credit card deposits that could be disputed.
            You can negotiate very good deal with them a co-worker of mine on GA did. But you have to put in the effort and if they want you apparently you can play for pennies on the dollar. Anyone that doesn’t do this is doing a disservice to themselves.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              You can negotiate very good deal with them a co-worker of mine on GA did. But you have to put in the effort and if they want you apparently you can play for pennies on the dollar. Anyone that doesn’t do this is doing a disservice to themselves.

              Disservice?

              I'm willing to do my part since I can afford it. If that means someone else who is not in as good of a position needs to take advantage of it, and does, that's great.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Why were we told we would have one coach right before tryouts now we are told we have different coach??
                I have 3 kids that play at CSA. One on the boys side and two on the girls. I'm very friendly with alot of the coaches. Tell me which age group/team your talking about and I'll find out what's going on for you.

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                  #9
                  I'd be livid if our club published a coaching list prior to tryouts and then switched afterwards and deprived us of our opportunity to look elsewhere during the tryout season. You should ask for a refund and then file a complaint.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Someone posted about this months ago and had instructions on how to handle CSA's stunts by using partial credit card deposits that could be disputed.
                    What do you mean pay by credit card and then dispute?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      What do you mean pay by credit card and then dispute?
                      From the CSA ID Clinic thread:

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Just do not pay them a dime until they 100% confirm who the coach is. Also you can negotiate a very cheap rate with them so perhaps do that to reduce your cost and risk. Good luck.

                      This is the ONLY real option any (non first year) parent has with CSA. Do NOT pay anything and hold out paying as long as possible. They will threaten with not holding a spot, not allowing your child to train, not carding, etc. - but once you send payment to CSA - your are out of luck. If they do not deliver on the things they guarantee or promise - your room to haggle / argue is gone. They do not return emails or phone calls, they do not negotiate in any way. It is VERY difficult (but possible) to get out of those payment contracts - but it takes effort and time to call your credit card company / bank and explain they are in breach of contract. Best thing to do is stall as long as possible until you can see and know exactly what is going to happen. Which League and Bracket your team will play in - how many kids on the roster (initially) - who is the actual coach, how bad the parents are and which ones are up the coach's butt - this is a BIG deal. If the coach says "here are the rules" and then 3 or 4 players / parents to not follow them - you are out of luck

                      They say they will not hold a spot. This is BS - CSA is notorious for telling every naïve parent that - forcing early payment and commitment - 2 weeks later players are added to the roster who did not try out, did not pay, etc, and this will continue throughout the season.

                      Here is the Process:
                      Print out all the registration documents from the Online Site. Complete them and sign and drop them off hard copy to the office mailbox or mail them in. This way your paperwork is in - the kid is registered and they know of your intent to play - but they cannot start taking your money before the child has even set foot on the field.
                      Keep following up with emails - reinforcing your registration and intent to play, commit, etc - keep stalling - they will allow your kid to play while sorting it all out.

                      CSA is the worst in terms of administration, organization, etc - Stall Stall Stall - pay as last resort

                      they NEED the kids, enrollment is down - no matter how much they pretend they are selective - they won't turn away your player

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                        #12
                        I do not believe this at all. Sorry. Name the age group and coaches. I also do not believe that you can negotiate pricing with them, but if it’s being done I don’t feel swindled because I can afford to pay the cost. I also wouldn’t play the game of charging a card and then disputing it. Sounds calculated and a bit vindictive and I do not do business that way. They have been forthcoming with credits and refunds as needed because of clinic cancellations due to weather etc. and if you truly feel you were bait and switched here’s some advice- Pick up a phone,call them and speak to them about it. They are reasonable.

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                          #13
                          Blame G, Phil and Niko those guys can’t be trusted to tell you what today’s date is.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            From the CSA ID Clinic thread:

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                            This is the ONLY real option any (non first year) parent has with CSA. Do NOT pay anything and hold out paying as long as possible. They will threaten with not holding a spot, not allowing your child to train, not carding, etc. - but once you send payment to CSA - your are out of luck. If they do not deliver on the things they guarantee or promise - your room to haggle / argue is gone. They do not return emails or phone calls, they do not negotiate in any way. It is VERY difficult (but possible) to get out of those payment contracts - but it takes effort and time to call your credit card company / bank and explain they are in breach of contract. Best thing to do is stall as long as possible until you can see and know exactly what is going to happen. Which League and Bracket your team will play in - how many kids on the roster (initially) - who is the actual coach, how bad the parents are and which ones are up the coach's butt - this is a BIG deal. If the coach says "here are the rules" and then 3 or 4 players / parents to not follow them - you are out of luck

                            They say they will not hold a spot. This is BS - CSA is notorious for telling every naïve parent that - forcing early payment and commitment - 2 weeks later players are added to the roster who did not try out, did not pay, etc, and this will continue throughout the season.

                            Here is the Process:
                            Print out all the registration documents from the Online Site. Complete them and sign and drop them off hard copy to the office mailbox or mail them in. This way your paperwork is in - the kid is registered and they know of your intent to play - but they cannot start taking your money before the child has even set foot on the field.
                            Keep following up with emails - reinforcing your registration and intent to play, commit, etc - keep stalling - they will allow your kid to play while sorting it all out.

                            CSA is the worst in terms of administration, organization, etc - Stall Stall Stall - pay as last resort

                            they NEED the kids, enrollment is down - no matter how much they pretend they are selective - they won't turn away your player
                            Enrollment is down 😆. This guy clearly has no clue.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              From the CSA ID Clinic thread:

                              Quote:



                              This is the ONLY real option any (non first year) parent has with CSA. Do NOT pay anything and hold out paying as long as possible. They will threaten with not holding a spot, not allowing your child to train, not carding, etc. - but once you send payment to CSA - your are out of luck. If they do not deliver on the things they guarantee or promise - your room to haggle / argue is gone. They do not return emails or phone calls, they do not negotiate in any way. It is VERY difficult (but possible) to get out of those payment contracts - but it takes effort and time to call your credit card company / bank and explain they are in breach of contract. Best thing to do is stall as long as possible until you can see and know exactly what is going to happen. Which League and Bracket your team will play in - how many kids on the roster (initially) - who is the actual coach, how bad the parents are and which ones are up the coach's butt - this is a BIG deal. If the coach says "here are the rules" and then 3 or 4 players / parents to not follow them - you are out of luck

                              They say they will not hold a spot. This is BS - CSA is notorious for telling every naïve parent that - forcing early payment and commitment - 2 weeks later players are added to the roster who did not try out, did not pay, etc, and this will continue throughout the season.

                              Here is the Process:
                              Print out all the registration documents from the Online Site. Complete them and sign and drop them off hard copy to the office mailbox or mail them in. This way your paperwork is in - the kid is registered and they know of your intent to play - but they cannot start taking your money before the child has even set foot on the field.
                              Keep following up with emails - reinforcing your registration and intent to play, commit, etc - keep stalling - they will allow your kid to play while sorting it all out.

                              CSA is the worst in terms of administration, organization, etc - Stall Stall Stall - pay as last resort

                              they NEED the kids, enrollment is down - no matter how much they pretend they are selective - they won't turn away your player
                              Half of their boys teams left this tryout season..

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