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    We are at SUSA and our child as well as others are very unhappy with the overall product. Some of the trainers are good but a majority are weak and there is no consistency. It appears each trainer is allowed to run whatever session they want. For a child to say practice is boring and all we do is stand around or scrimmage most times that is a big issue. So you can have a good trainer for a year or two and then you get a pure dud. Is anyone else seeing this? Do you just grin and bare it or should you speak up to the coach or DOC? Speaking up to some of these people I have heard makes things worse on your child. I cant see allowing the trainers to not train and challenge the teams week after week at the costs we are are paying.

    Suppose to be an Academy with much higher standard than this.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    We are at SUSA and our child as well as others are very unhappy with the overall product. Some of the trainers are good but a majority are weak and there is no consistency. It appears each trainer is allowed to run whatever session they want. For a child to say practice is boring and all we do is stand around or scrimmage most times that is a big issue. So you can have a good trainer for a year or two and then you get a pure dud. Is anyone else seeing this? Do you just grin and bare it or should you speak up to the coach or DOC? Speaking up to some of these people I have heard makes things worse on your child. I cant see allowing the trainers to not train and challenge the teams week after week at the costs we are are paying.

    Suppose to be an Academy with much higher standard than this.

    Difficult situation and without calling out the biggest offenders at SUSA because the list is well known to the kids and parents our collective hope is to see if the new facility attracts better coaches/trainers. Some of the bad ones really ruin it for the ones working hard and that care about the kids, sport and parents who try and support susa.

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      #3
      I felt the same way and pulled my kid after 1 year. Couldn't believe they raised the prices for training that is maybe on par or less then town teams that are 10% of the cost. The clinics you pay extra money for was better then the team training in my opinion.

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        #4
        Trainers are important but ultimately the quality of a team session is more dictated by the effort and focus of the players. A team full of really top players will have more meaningful sessions and a team of kids at the lower end will not. I do not believe a coach can do much about that for individuals. If you want your kid to be better, the child has to be practicing on his/her own, too.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Trainers are important but ultimately the quality of a team session is more dictated by the effort and focus of the players. A team full of really top players will have more meaningful sessions and a team of kids at the lower end will not. I do not believe a coach can do much about that for individuals. If you want your kid to be better, the child has to be practicing on his/her own, too.
          Thank you Captain Obvious. What is being asked and said here is the training at susa is not meeting the susa sales pitch. A trainer that is not running solid sessions regardless of talent pool is still not what susa billing themselves as. They are saying you will get premiere training and a shinny new facility throughout our levels of play and age groups. I am sure some of the trainers there are great but that is not what the author of this post is talking about.

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            #6
            The problem with SUSA is they do not have a defined curriculum that every coach has to follow. I have worked at Susa before, and without revealing my name, I can tell you I respect and love everyone that works there, and I left only because I received a full-time well paying job. With that being said, we had many issues when it came to development, and it was swept under the rug. The model was always what we could do as coaches to bring in money. Glen often would rip apart the coaches for not recruiting more players and bringing up the numbers of enrollments. I often argued with Glen and Moussa and told them if we set a real curriculum, the teams will train better, perform better, and ultimately that is what will bring more players into the club, but it seemed no one was interested in that. WHere I got really frustrated was when they hired JR and his girlfriend Rebecca, who became a coach also at SUSA. Their inappropriate behavior in the office halls was obvious, and JR also got fired from FC COPA for stealing money, so I don't understand why Moussa hired him for SUSA. JR took over the girl's program, and Eddie took over the boys program because he has a British accent but can not assemble a real full training session. Both JR and Eddie are technical directors, yet both do not have a curriculum, and no coaches from the club follow the same training sessions. What SUSA, however, has over a lot of other organizations is the huge player pools of 50-100 kids showing up to tryouts and JR and EDDIE being able to take the best 20 for year age groups A team. That, unfortunately, is not developing in any way. A club is a money-making machine, and that is the primary focus. Player and team development are secondary, if at all. Now comparing SUSA to other real academies like METOVAL, BWG, NYCFC, RB, CedarStars, PDA. I can tell you every coach has to follow a curriculum by the DOC. At Met Oval, Filipo enforced a curriculum and even fired coaches that went against this. At SUSA, no one will get fired for such actions. SUSA, in my opinion, lost credibility is rehiring KOZY, who, in fact is my dear friend but has screwed SUSA in the past with money, went off started his own program, then failed at getting to surf but cut back a deal with Moussa and Glen. Glen gladly took him back because KOZY could bring back over 50+ players equaling out anywhere from 15k-20k in basic registration money for SUSA.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The problem with SUSA is they do not have a defined curriculum that every coach has to follow. I have worked at Susa before, and without revealing my name, I can tell you I respect and love everyone that works there, and I left only because I received a full-time well paying job. With that being said, we had many issues when it came to development, and it was swept under the rug. The model was always what we could do as coaches to bring in money. Glen often would rip apart the coaches for not recruiting more players and bringing up the numbers of enrollments. I often argued with Glen and Moussa and told them if we set a real curriculum, the teams will train better, perform better, and ultimately that is what will bring more players into the club, but it seemed no one was interested in that. WHere I got really frustrated was when they hired JR and his girlfriend Rebecca, who became a coach also at SUSA. Their inappropriate behavior in the office halls was obvious, and JR also got fired from FC COPA for stealing money, so I don't understand why Moussa hired him for SUSA. JR took over the girl's program, and Eddie took over the boys program because he has a British accent but can not assemble a real full training session. Both JR and Eddie are technical directors, yet both do not have a curriculum, and no coaches from the club follow the same training sessions. What SUSA, however, has over a lot of other organizations is the huge player pools of 50-100 kids showing up to tryouts and JR and EDDIE being able to take the best 20 for year age groups A team. That, unfortunately, is not developing in any way. A club is a money-making machine, and that is the primary focus. Player and team development are secondary, if at all. Now comparing SUSA to other real academies like METOVAL, BWG, NYCFC, RB, CedarStars, PDA. I can tell you every coach has to follow a curriculum by the DOC. At Met Oval, Filipo enforced a curriculum and even fired coaches that went against this. At SUSA, no one will get fired for such actions. SUSA, in my opinion, lost credibility is rehiring KOZY, who, in fact is my dear friend but has screwed SUSA in the past with money, went off started his own program, then failed at getting to surf but cut back a deal with Moussa and Glen. Glen gladly took him back because KOZY could bring back over 50+ players equaling out anywhere from 15k-20k in basic registration money for SUSA.

              Good for you for being honest with some of what others know because its clearly at in the open for all to see. You are a class act and the soccer community could use more people like you. Glen's agenda is clearly about Glen and not the kids. Your reference to JR, Rebecca and Kozy are on point three very questionable trainers and more than that people (JR and KOzy). I don't want to slam them on here but I don't have any faith in any of the top brass at susa and there is no changing this sort of environment when its systemic throughout the organization. Best of luck to you and thank you for you point of view.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Good for you for being honest with some of what others know because its clearly at in the open for all to see. You are a class act and the soccer community could use more people like you. Glen's agenda is clearly about Glen and not the kids. Your reference to JR, Rebecca and Kozy are on point three very questionable trainers and more than that people (JR and KOzy). I don't want to slam them on here but I don't have any faith in any of the top brass at susa and there is no changing this sort of environment when its systemic throughout the organization. Best of luck to you and thank you for you point of view.

                JR is taking advantage of the situation at SUSA and he is playing Moussa and Glen which is funny actually. JR would never get hired at any of the top clubs out there mentioned before. The reality is all these guys got comfortable and develop nothing. As for Rebecca, I know her personally and I am sad by the fact that she chose to be with JR. I witness countless times JR manipulating her and as it turns out she is a former player of his when he was at FC COPA. This is unprofessional and disgusting. Moussa and Glen should be ashamed of themselves for hiring someone like this.

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                  #9
                  I know for a fact that SUSA's only objective is to become the top and sole academy club of Long Island connecting Suffolk to Nassau and then eventually the 5 boroughs. This was discussed in the Glen ripping the coaches for the underperforming meeting. Glen outlines his entire plan. DO you really think they want Albertson for anything else but to kill off the brand of fury within the next 2 years? Look at what they did with Commack SC. Commack signed a deal with them to have SUSA be the official training company. SUSA took all their best players and started their own academy program. Commack is now left with nothing but 3rd tier and lower players. It's absolutely sad.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    JR is taking advantage of the situation at SUSA and he is playing Moussa and Glen which is funny actually. JR would never get hired at any of the top clubs out there mentioned before. The reality is all these guys got comfortable and develop nothing. As for Rebecca, I know her personally and I am sad by the fact that she chose to be with JR. I witness countless times JR manipulating her and as it turns out she is a former player of his when he was at FC COPA. This is unprofessional and disgusting. Moussa and Glen should be ashamed of themselves for hiring someone like this.
                    If you can bring in enough players in with you to cover your salary, you will be hired to coach at SUSA. At least for a while until the players become entrenched in the system and they don't need you anymore.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      If you can bring in enough players in with you to cover your salary, you will be hired to coach at SUSA. At least for a while until the players become entrenched in the system and they don't need you anymore.
                      And that right there is the problem with SUSA. Business 1st everything later.

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                        #12
                        The only reason to post this is 1) not really from Susa but threatened and envious of what they are building, or 2) someone’s kid is at Susa but didn’t make the cut for their team of choice.

                        I don’t have visibility across the entire club but can only speak to our experience with two kids who are playing with Susa. My kids train A LOT on their own time. They are on teams with like minded kids who train A LOT outside of team practice and the entire roster is very skilled. The handful of coaches we have come across have all met or exceeded expectations and my kids have become better players for crossing paths with them.

                        It is what you want it to be. There are different teams for different levels of commitment.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The only reason to post this is 1) not really from Susa but threatened and envious of what they are building, or 2) someone’s kid is at Susa but didn’t make the cut for their team of choice.

                          I don’t have visibility across the entire club but can only speak to our experience with two kids who are playing with Susa. My kids train A LOT on their own time. They are on teams with like minded kids who train A LOT outside of team practice and the entire roster is very skilled. The handful of coaches we have come across have all met or exceeded expectations and my kids have become better players for crossing paths with them.

                          It is what you want it to be. There are different teams for different levels of commitment.
                          So no such thing as a bad coach at SUSA?

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                            #14
                            When it comes to judging the quality of coaches you have to begin with their licenses to coach and be a teacher. You have to understand that the vast majority of coaches at any club are not full time employees. They are independent contractors. They all have either other coaching jobs or full time jobs doing something else. That is the situation. The better coaches are assistant coaches at colleges/universities who coach at club to supplement their income or to recruit players to their colleges. When I red that parents are surprised or disappointed by the quality of training they see then that tells me they didn’t do their homework by asking or investigating the coach/trainer. If I am paying thousands of dollars as well as my time and energy on travel soccer I want to know more about the coaching staff. That way I do not have to come on here to post and complain.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              And that right there is the problem with SUSA. Business 1st everything later.
                              Yet people flock there without a 2nd thought....

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