Youth Soccer Culture: A Parent's Perspective

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As a parent involved in multiple youth soccer clubs, I've noticed concerning patterns about player burnout and team dynamics, particularly leading up to the collegiate level. I'd like to share my observations and get feedback from other parents.

From what I've seen, collegiate soccer often becomes viewed as a "finish line" rather than a stepping stone in a player's journey. By high school, many players and parents seem burnt out, viewing college recruitment as their exit goal rather than a milestone in ongoing development. Player happiness appears to be a significant concern, especially among female players, and I often wonder how many are simply putting on a brave face.

After experience with 4 different clubs and various programs, I've noticed a consistent problem: coaches often take a hands-off approach to developing team culture. This creates what I call a "Lord of the Flies effect" where a clique of 4-6 players typically emerges to dominate team culture. The remaining players either try to join the dominant clique, accept their outsider status, or actively resist the social hierarchy.

These dynamics aren't just social - they seem to directly affect playing time, ball touches during games, and even position assignments. As someone who has both played and coached various sports over the years, I haven't seen these issues manifest to this degree in other athletic environments.

I'm curious to hear from other parents: How happy is your child in their soccer experience? Have you observed similar social dynamics? Is this unique to soccer, or am I seeing patterns that don't actually exist? I'd appreciate hearing others' perspectives on this.

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I think what you're observing definitely exists in youth sports (not just soccer). I think it happens for two reasons 1) too competitive especially at younger ages and 2) organizations, coaches, and parents who don't model what it means to be a good teammate (i.e. you can be competitive without being an *******).

As a parent, I think we should value character development and our children's enjoyment of the game. We shouldn't be okay with environments that breed toxicity. Sports is a fleeting moment in our lives. It has valuable lessons to teach, and we should have fun while doing it. Stop ruining it.

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As a parent involved in multiple youth soccer clubs, I've noticed concerning patterns about player burnout and team dynamics, particularly leading up to the collegiate level. .

As a parent involved in multiple youth soccer clubs, I've noticed concerning patterns about parents focus on playing soccer at the collegiate level. It's the equivalent of spending thousands of hours learning ballet just to dance under the bridge in Seattle downtown. And everybody discussing what kind of tent to get in order to camp nearby. Either play for fun or actually focus on a proper professional level.

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As a parent involved in multiple youth soccer clubs, I've noticed concerning patterns about player burnout and team dynamics, particularly leading up to the collegiate level. I'd like to share my observations and get feedback from other parents.

From what I've seen, collegiate soccer often becomes viewed as a "finish line" rather than a stepping stone in a player's journey. By high school, many players and parents seem burnt out, viewing college recruitment as their exit goal rather than a milestone in ongoing development. Player happiness appears to be a significant concern, especially among female players, and I often wonder how many are simply putting on a brave face.

After experience with 4 different clubs and various programs, I've noticed a consistent problem: coaches often take a hands-off approach to developing team culture. This creates what I call a "Lord of the Flies effect" where a clique of 4-6 players typically emerges to dominate team culture. The remaining players either try to join the dominant clique, accept their outsider status, or actively resist the social hierarchy.

These dynamics aren't just social - they seem to directly affect playing time, ball touches during games, and even position assignments. As someone who has both played and coached various sports over the years, I haven't seen these issues manifest to this degree in other athletic environments.

I'm curious to hear from other parents: How happy is your child in their soccer experience? Have you observed similar social dynamics? Is this unique to soccer, or am I seeing patterns that don't actually exist? I'd appreciate hearing others' perspectives on this.

a group of us parents actually approached our coach to point out that the players dont even greet each other before matches. they form siloed groups for warmups. there is zero camaraderie or friendship. and his response? he hasn't noticed.

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a group of us parents actually approached our coach to point out that the players dont even greet each other before matches. they form siloed groups for warmups. there is zero camaraderie or friendship. and his response? he hasn't noticed.

As long as he keeps getting a paycheck, he won’t care. I’ll tell you a secret. About 90% of soccer coaches are incompetent and can’t effectively evaluate their own teams or players. The “top” coaches are much more likely to be good at recruiting players rather than developing them. Most coaches are so lazy that they select players to fit their own system year after year instead of putting forth the effort to select the best players and adapting tactics.

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This is a huge problem. My daughter's team just played their last match in the D3 NCAA tournament. This is the real end of the line. I'm so thankful she finished her career with a coach that was very intentional about building a strong and healthy team culture where all player contributions are valued and respected. After so much toxicity at the youth level it was literally healing for her - and the team made the NCAA tournament every year of my daughter's tenure. Respect and caring are not only not incompatible with success, they're the secret sauce for achieving it in a sustainable way.

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This is a huge problem. My daughter's team just played their last match in the D3 NCAA tournament. This is the real end of the line. I'm so thankful she finished her career with a coach that was very intentional about building a strong and healthy team culture where all player contributions are valued and respected. After so much toxicity at the youth level it was literally healing for her - and the team made the NCAA tournament every year of my daughter's tenure. Respect and caring are not only not incompatible with success, they're the secret sauce for achieving it in a sustainable way.

There are good stories out there.

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This is a huge problem. My daughter's team just played their last match in the D3 NCAA tournament. This is the real end of the line. I'm so thankful she finished her career with a coach that was very intentional about building a strong and healthy team culture where all player contributions are valued and respected. After so much toxicity at the youth level it was literally healing for her - and the team made the NCAA tournament every year of my daughter's tenure. Respect and caring are not only not incompatible with success, they're the secret sauce for achieving it in a sustainable way.

Love this. 100% agreed, respect and caring are the secret sauce.

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he hasn't noticed.

lmao! what a liar! he just doesnt care!

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played their last match in the D3 NCAA tournament.

finished her career

Playing D3 is a career similar to playing chess with strangers in Central Park, i.e. hardly a “career” at all, more of a time passing activity.

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Where did you play?

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Where did you play?

Why? Did I say I had a “career”?

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Why? Did I say I had a “career”?

Everybody that's involved with soccer for a number of years has a career. The height of some careers is professional, for others it's D3, and for some it may be youth soccer. In your case, the height of your soccer career is being a troll on talking-soccer. You da real MVP.

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In your case, the height of your soccer career is being a troll on talking-soccer. You da real MVP.

It's more of a time passing activity, but thanks.

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Playing D3 is a career similar to playing chess with strangers in Central Park, i.e. hardly a “career” at all, more of a time passing activity.

typical elitist bs that somehow if you're not playing at the very top level then your experience is somehow lesser, or weaker, or not the same emotionally, psychologically and physically. whether you're playing rec or mls next, everyone is on their own journey that is important and meaningful to them.