Justi B at PacNW - confirmed

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I think ENCL is paid for for all clubs

Definitely NOT. We paid club dues and all associated travel expenses for player and portion for coach.

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Rumor is no new players on 08 ECNL and that most the team returning.
Doesn’t seem like she attracted anybody. Backfire !

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Does it matter? if we measure in wins and losses, she will have less success at Pac. They really should give her the youngest of the teams there as they are horrendous. And please dont feed me they are trying to play the right way and out the back.

The coaches look good there at Pac, the problem seems to be lower socio economic parents and their chunky un athletic kids make up the player pools. They are good people and sweet kids but we have a society where inequality is a real problem

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The coaches look good there at Pac, the problem seems to be lower socio economic parents and their chunky un athletic kids make up the player pools. They are good people and sweet kids but we have a society where inequality is a real problem

not sure i would go with the unathletic kids piece but i understand what you are saying. Socioeconomics definitely play in where they can't pay for additional training and the kids have more responsibilities around the home to just make the monthly mortgage.

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not sure i would go with the unathletic kids piece but i understand what you are saying. Socioeconomics definitely play in where they can't pay for additional training and the kids have more responsibilities around the home to just make the monthly mortgage.

not sure I buy the poor kids can't pay for training which is why they suck argument. I think the large swath of current top level pros growing up in their international hoods would run counter to that.

I think inequality has nothing to do with it. I would actually say rich kids are worse off in soccer because culturally they believe paying 100 dollars an hour for a private coach to watch them run cones once a week would make them good. In reality free soccer in a back alley played from sun up to sun down with the only ball you own would provide a better foundation.

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not sure I buy the poor kids can't pay for training which is why they suck argument. I think the large swath of current top level pros growing up in their international hoods would run counter to that.

I think inequality has nothing to do with it. I would actually say rich kids are worse off in soccer because culturally they believe paying 100 dollars an hour for a private coach to watch them run cones once a week would make them good. In reality free soccer in a back alley played from sun up to sun down with the only ball you own would provide a better foundation.

I think this description is accurate, at least from my experience.

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not sure I buy the poor kids can't pay for training which is why they suck argument. I think the large swath of current top level pros growing up in their international hoods would run counter to that.

I think inequality has nothing to do with it. I would actually say rich kids are worse off in soccer because culturally they believe paying 100 dollars an hour for a private coach to watch them run cones once a week would make them good. In reality free soccer in a back alley played from sun up to sun down with the only ball you own would provide a better foundation.

agree to disagree on the socioeconomics. Definitely agree that the best way is in the backyard or back alley like many of the other countries pros develop. However, in the US the community of players that play backyard or back alley ball is far different unless you go to a strong hispanic neighborhood where soccer still remains the top sport. In the US it is sadly still 3rd or 4th and I am not sure there are a lot of neighborhoods where kids go out and play competitive soccer together.

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agree to disagree on the socioeconomics. Definitely agree that the best way is in the backyard or back alley like many of the other countries pros develop. However, in the US the community of players that play backyard or back alley ball is far different unless you go to a strong hispanic neighborhood where soccer still remains the top sport. In the US it is sadly still 3rd or 4th and I am not sure there are a lot of neighborhoods where kids go out and play competitive soccer together.

I still disagree with you. I appreciate your respectful civil response as well.

Soccer is the cheapest sport in the world next to running. Actually as I type that. Soccer you can play barefoot without shoes. So all you need is a ball. Running probably requires 200 dollar nikes. :)

I bet if you average the salaries made by poor kids in professional soccer vs the salaries made by middle class American kids, the data should show the poor kids end up doing better dollar for dollar and in aggregate. Obviously I can't prove that data so it's just a hunch and I could be wrong. But soccer generates billions of dollars around the world and lots of the pros seem to come from poor regional neighborhoods that then get called up in larger clubs that start funding their fees which then generates a pro contract worth millions. American middle class kids on multi million dollar contracts are pretty rare even though they have access to lots of money spent on training.

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Did she already start with her teams ? Saw the 08 played this week did she coach ?

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She has not started with her teams yet. PAC is lucky to get her!

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She has not started with her teams yet. PAC is lucky to get her!

ya ya ya. Good luck. Let’s revisit next year

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And give up XF paying for ecnl travel. I don’t think so.

They do not pay for ECNL travel. Parents pay for airfare and hotels

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She will do great things. Now leave her alone and let’s go rip on Vaylor

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Interesting debate, I really don't think money can buy you skills in soccer sure you can become an expert at running cones and do some sick instagram videos where you show off your jugging and discuss how you are always “grinding” but the reality is none of those skills relate to the real deal top flight game. These skills can only be developed under the flow and pressures of the game in live conditions. Artificial foot skills only retard the genuine flow of the beautiful game.

I laugh at how poor the quality of instruction is in private lessons I see. the kids who pay for this crap would be better off starting a standing pick up game at a random park on Friday nights and learning how to live and play soccer. It’s pretty easy for a parent to Venmo some cash to a coach and check the mental box that my kids is doing everything possible when the reality is the kid doesn’t seek out genuine play because they don’t really love soccer. There just there for the instagram bs.

look at Clint Dempsey he played all day in a trailer park no private lessons he just loved soccer and was athletically good enough to make it. No secret sauce just a little luck when he got his shot.

Every kid playing in the RCL has more than enough opportunity to make it. Weather they do just comes down to what they were born with athletically and how much do they want it. The opportunity is there.

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The coaches look good there at Pac, the problem seems to be lower socio economic parents and their chunky un athletic kids make up the player pools. They are good people and sweet kids but we have a society where inequality is a real problem

There is a lot of classism in your comment, despite your concern that "inequality is a real problem." You're trafficking in stereotypes.