SCA and OYSA

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Sometimes you play against a dirty team; if you don't play elbows up you are going to get hurt. These text messages SCA is sending out are dirty.

I wish it wasn't this way and really don't like this part of youth soccer, but it is the underbelly of these for profits (not like the non-profits are all perfect, but they do play by a different set of rules).

If a non-profit director is too lazy to fight back then that non-profit has bigger problems.

. . . and I think you are wrong there is no association between GPS and SCA. Beyond the fact that the same dude recruiting for GPS 2 years ago is recruiting for SCA today: https://www.gps-international.net/valencia

About GPS
GPS is one of the largest soccer organizations in the World providing player development programming in 24 States across the USA and are active in 5 other countries. GPS provide a unique structure and pathway for players that includes both professional soccer and education. GPS operates International Academies in Spain, the UK and the US and provide access to the education system in the US via the Soccer Chance USA College Placement Program and the GPS Private School Placement Program.
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Soccer Chance USA was a college placement service that sent lots of European based students to D1 D2 D3, NAIA and NJCAA programs - lots still playing. It had a brief partnership With GPS international academies assisting their players in the UK and Spain getting back into college programs as they were based in Europe and were on hand to assist in his field.


Not sure what the relevance is here ?


Hope this explains your consiracy theory.

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Not the SCA coach or the other person here, but there are several different types of clubs:

* OYSA clubs (i.e. clubs that are members of OYSA and therefore USYS) who play in OYSA leagues (or have teams that do)

* OYSA registered clubs that exclusively play in other leagues--generally most rec clubs are in this category, as are many non-premier classic leagues around the state (RVT and others generally don't put B teams in OYSA).

* Teams/clubs registered through US Soccer via means other than OYSA/USYSA. The Timbers are an obvious example; their youth teams in the DA register directly with US Soccer.

* Unregistered teams/leagues. Many futsal teams, quite a few Hispanic teams/leagues, etc.

Note that the last two categories are not eligible for State Cup or other tournaments, but nothing prevents them from playing soccer, forming leagues with other teams similarly situated, etc.

What league SCA might play in, I don't know. A rec league would be a waste of time for a club claiming to be a top-flight academy; having a Brit-trained team joining a local Latino league would be interesting.

And one other option might be (B)ECNL. If US Club wants to take more business from USYSA, there might be an opportunity in providing registration for clubs that are turned down by USYS affiliates. This would potentially be unfortunate, but if it is true that OYSA has now adapted a policy of "no new clubs" at the eleventh hour, especially at the behest of established clubs who don't want to lose players or teams to these upstarts, that may be a mistake--Washington and its tons of different leagues and fiefdoms are an example of what can happen. Going from "desperately trying to keep clubs from leaving" to "telling new clubs they cannot join" is a stunning reversal.

Needing explaining without insults back and fourth so thank you.
Guys take a deep breath this thread is quite vicious you are in this for the kids try not to lose sight of that.

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Really sad thing is someone (likely a coach from another club) can slander good people and it influence others. My daughter didn’t decide to join SCA this year. In the main because I’m not sure they will see through a year in this Soccer mess. I will say they were gracious about other clubs and despite our choice responded with kindness. I wish them well although I don’t see it staying long term due to this mess of a state organization.

Had the same situation with my O5 boy. Was never put under any pressure and was sent a lovely message which we appreciated.

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Best development program for Futsal perhaps ... watching those players play in an 11v11 game is comical at best. Head down and dribbling looking for combinations 5-10 yards around and missing the obvious 20 yard pass.

There is a reason that players at Barcelona are forced to choose Futsal or Outdoor by age 12 ... they are different games!

I don't think anyone is doubting at some stage you need to transition full time to 11v11 soccer. More that Rose City do a good job with players aged 5-10.

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Really sad thing is someone (likely a coach from another club) can slander good people and it influence others. My daughter didn’t decide to join SCA this year. In the main because I’m not sure they will see through a year in this Soccer mess. I will say they were gracious about other clubs and despite our choice responded with kindness. I wish them well although I don’t see it staying long term due to this mess of a state organization.

I'm shocked at this. Putting up personal links? TALKING SOCCER NEVER CHANGE. Who would have thought soccer could do this to people, crazy.

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Last I checked, GPS was never a member of OYSA.

Yes the were hooked up with OYSA member IFC Club.

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ecnl???

ECNL is not a club in Oregon or in the United States.

It's a US Club league acronym.

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Not the SCA coach or the other person here, but there are several different types of clubs:

* OYSA clubs (i.e. clubs that are members of OYSA and therefore USYS) who play in OYSA leagues (or have teams that do)

* OYSA registered clubs that exclusively play in other leagues--generally most rec clubs are in this category, as are many non-premier classic leagues around the state (RVT and others generally don't put B teams in OYSA).

* Teams/clubs registered through US Soccer via means other than OYSA/USYSA. The Timbers are an obvious example; their youth teams in the DA register directly with US Soccer.

* Unregistered teams/leagues. Many futsal teams, quite a few Hispanic teams/leagues, etc.

Note that the last two categories are not eligible for State Cup or other tournaments, but nothing prevents them from playing soccer, forming leagues with other teams similarly situated, etc.

What league SCA might play in, I don't know. A rec league would be a waste of time for a club claiming to be a top-flight academy; having a Brit-trained team joining a local Latino league would be interesting.

And one other option might be (B)ECNL. If US Club wants to take more business from USYSA, there might be an opportunity in providing registration for clubs that are turned down by USYS affiliates. This would potentially be unfortunate, but if it is true that OYSA has now adapted a policy of "no new clubs" at the eleventh hour, especially at the behest of established clubs who don't want to lose players or teams to these upstarts, that may be a mistake--Washington and its tons of different leagues and fiefdoms are an example of what can happen. Going from "desperately trying to keep clubs from leaving" to "telling new clubs they cannot join" is a stunning reversal.

BECNL is a pipe dream. The application process and standards are even higher than OYSA. You have to have established teams. You have to have a Junior Academy with a director. You have to have two boys teams at each age and you have to haven “A” licensed Technical Director (license has to be verified in the DCC)

Soccer Chance doesn’t tick any of this boxes. Not even one. They say they have UEFA A and B licenses but they won’t show publicly. It’s a scam

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Not the SCA coach or the other person here, but there are several different types of clubs:* OYSA clubs (i.e. clubs that are members of OYSA and therefore USYS) who play in OYSA leagues (or have teams that do)* OYSA registered clubs that exclusively play in other leagues--generally most rec clubs are in this category, as are many non-premier classic leagues around the state (RVT and others generally don't put B teams in OYSA).* Teams/clubs registered through US Soccer via means other than OYSA/USYSA. The Timbers are an obvious example; their youth teams in the DA register directly with US Soccer.* Unregistered teams/leagues. Many futsal teams, quite a few Hispanic teams/leagues, etc. Note that the last two categories are not eligible for State Cup or other tournaments, but nothing prevents them from playing soccer, forming leagues with other teams similarly situated, etc.What league SCA might play in, I don't know. A rec league would be a waste of time for a club claiming to be a top-flight academy; having a Brit-trained team joining a local Latino league would be interesting.
And one other option might be (B)ECNL. If US Club wants to take more business from USYSA, there might be an opportunity in providing registration for clubs that are turned down by USYS affiliates. This would potentially be unfortunate, but if it is true that OYSA has now adapted a policy of "no new clubs" at the eleventh hour, especially at the behest of established clubs who don't want to lose players or teams to these upstarts, that may be a mistake--Washington and its tons of different leagues and fiefdoms are an example of what can happen. Going from "desperately trying to keep clubs from leaving" to "telling new clubs they cannot join" is a stunning reversal.

Types of Youth Soccer Clubs:

Pro DA Clubs registered Directly with US Soccer (note USYS/US Club member clubs can be registered directly with US Soccer for DA Purposes)

USYS/US Club/AYSO Member Clubs

All the best to anyone wanting to become a club that can play in sanctioned leagues.

If your collection of members doesn't fit in those categories you are rouge/independent, no big deal.

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Really sad thing is someone (likely a coach from another club) can slander good people and it influence others. My daughter didn’t decide to join SCA this year. In the main because I’m not sure they will see through a year in this Soccer mess. I will say they were gracious about other clubs and despite our choice responded with kindness. I wish them well although I don’t see it staying long term due to this mess of a state organization.

That isn't slander. It is literally a link to these SCA coaches profile when they were GPS. It may be damaging, but it isn't false.

Look I wish youth soccer wasn't this way, but GPS v1 showed that it can be downright nasty when dealing with these for profits. Talk to clubs in other states where GPS came in - it was like a locust. Non-profits tried to continue as they always had but families got pulled in by the Bayern/English connection and the fancy marketing materials or got reminded of everything their old club ever did wrong.

GPS failed here, but it did damage along the way. SCA appear to be another flavor of the same ice cream.

The clubs who don't respond end up like the Clackamas Power Rays; highly likable, but don't last. Want my club to be likable and last.

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That isn't slander. It is literally a link to these SCA coaches profile when they were GPS. It may be damaging, but it isn't false.

Look I wish youth soccer wasn't this way, but GPS v1 showed that it can be downright nasty when dealing with these for profits. Talk to clubs in other states where GPS came in - it was like a locust. Non-profits tried to continue as they always had but families got pulled in by the Bayern/English connection and the fancy marketing materials or got reminded of everything their old club ever did wrong.

GPS failed here, but it did damage along the way. SCA appear to be another flavor of the same ice cream.

The clubs who don't respond end up like the Clackamas Power Rays; highly likable, but don't last. Want my club to be likable and last.

I would agree with most of the above. However I haven't heard any negative reports from parents as yet on them and until we do you cannot be certain of anything. All speculation and the key word from above would be 'appear' not conclusive at all.


Seems only apposing coaches and directors have the issue. Reality is this is a small club, a very very small. Not sure how much it will affect the big clubs in PDX period.

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I would agree with most of the above. However I haven't heard any negative reports from parents as yet on them and until we do you cannot be certain of anything. All speculation and the key word from above would be 'appear' not conclusive at all.


Seems only apposing coaches and directors have the issue. Reality is this is a small club, a very very small. Not sure how much it will affect the big clubs in PDX period.

What set me off what the text message from SCA to one of our players - it was totally over the top and highly misleading.

The SCA guys are charming and nice - it doesn't surprise me at all that parents that interact with them, like them.

I have kids at 2 clubs and in each case our directors have moments of gruffness (although we have 1 new one that is softer around the edges). But the gruff guys have been honest in my experience.

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BECNL is a pipe dream. The application process and standards are even higher than OYSA. You have to have established teams. You have to have a Junior Academy with a director. You have to have two boys teams at each age and you have to haven “A” licensed Technical Director (license has to be verified in the DCC)

Soccer Chance doesn’t tick any of this boxes. Not even one. They say they have UEFA A and B licenses but they won’t show publicly. It’s a scam

https://www.instagram.com/p/Btd3uQ3lkvS/

Found this within mins of searching. Must be awkward for you?


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https://www.instagram.com/p/Btd3uQ3lkvS/

Found this within mins of searching. Must be awkward for you?


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Well that is awkward for whoever was doubting the UEFA Badge. but Mr. Hensley, CEO of Soccer Chance Academy (based in London), seems to be deeply connected to GPS: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-hanl...alSubdomain=uk

with a GPS email address and all: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/duel-...le-ben-hanley/

This looks more like a re-branding of GPS everyday, without MJ at the helm.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/Btd3uQ3lkvS/

Found this within mins of searching. Must be awkward for you?


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Posting links to people's personal info is not cool. Get a grip.