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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    No.

    US Soccer (formerly the USSF) is the top governing body for American soccer, and the national governing body according to FIFA.

    AYSO, USYSA, and US Club are three youth soccer organizations, catering to (roughly) different segments of the youth soccer market, all of which are members of (and located under) US Soccer.

    AYSO is mainly rec and does not have a presence in Oregon (or if they do, it's small).

    USYSA has many state level affiliates, one of which is OYSA. They also run something called the National Premier League.

    US Club Soccer generally does competitive soccer; and located within their ambit is ECNL (Elite Clubs National League). They also run the NW Champions League.

    US Soccer directly runs the US mens and women's national teams, the corresponding youth national teams, and the DA and GDA programs.

    Various clubs may be affiliated with none, one, or many of these things. FC Portland, for instance, is a member of OYSA and competes in OYSA leagues and cups. It is part of ECNL. It is part of the Boys DA.

    Viewed as a tree, it looks kinda like this:

    FIFA
    |--US Soccer
    | |--US Club
    | | +--ECNL
    | |--USYSA
    | | |--OYSA
    | | | +-- Fall league, spring league, state cup, etc.
    | | |--FWRL
    | | +-NPL
    | |--AYSO
    | |--USSDA
    | |--USSGDA
    | +--US national teams
    |--Football Association (UK)
    |--DFB (Deutscher Fußball-Bund)
    +--Other national associations

    You're welcome.
    Except that NPL is under US Club Soccer, not USYSA. USYSA has it's "National Leagues".

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      This is spot on. All the big losses the Thorns Academy has endured are part of the plan. Only simple minded people want to win.
      Are the Thorns going to be relegated? They are rock bottom at younger ages.

      Is that why there is talk of moving to Eastside?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Are the Thorns going to be relegated? They are rock bottom at younger ages.

        Is that why there is talk of moving to Eastside?
        Yes, relegated into non-existence.

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          They aren’t moving to Eastside. Fact. They just rent fields from them. Contact their DOC and ask.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Are the Thorns going to be relegated? They are rock bottom at younger ages.

            Is that why there is talk of moving to Eastside?
            Wins and losses are NOT important. Such low level thinking. The younger teams have really struggled but we all have to learn how to lose. Important life lesson. That’s way more important than winning. Smart players know this. US Socceris trying to get people to stop worrying about winning and focus on training instead.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Wins and losses are NOT important. Such low level thinking. The younger teams have really struggled but we all have to learn how to lose. Important life lesson. That’s way more important than winning. Smart players know this. US Socceris trying to get people to stop worrying about winning and focus on training instead.
              You are gullible.

              If you lose 8-0 every game then you are in the wrong place. The games that they do win is against teams that are worse than many teams from Oregon.

              Learning to lose? You are an idiot. Perhaps failing without chance for success is a good strategy but you'd be claiming something that no one would back up...

              Perhaps you should look up why every league in the world besides mls youth to pro does promotion relegation..

              US soccer is trying to make money.

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                If my kids coach tried to justify the team losing every single game and being blown out while traveling and sacrificing their time and effort I would tell them to piss off.

                US soccer is a corrupt company that is trying to make money fooling dumb people into thinking all this is worth it when it only takes 6 months for smart families to realize they are being lied to.

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                  What a mess. Thorns has a name and that does look good on a resume to a college coach unfamiliar with Oregon soccer on the girls side. I’ll give them that.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    What a mess. Thorns has a name and that does look good on a resume to a college coach unfamiliar with Oregon soccer on the girls side. I’ll give them that.
                    Doesn't take much to watch for 5 min to realize those kids are no better than anyone else from Oregon

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      If my kids coach tried to justify the team losing every single game and being blown out while traveling and sacrificing their time and effort I would tell them to piss off.

                      US soccer is a corrupt company that is trying to make money fooling dumb people into thinking all this is worth it when it only takes 6 months for smart families to realize they are being lied to.
                      +1. There really should be a like feature on this forum.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Doesn't take much to watch for 5 min to realize those kids are no better than anyone else from Oregon
                        But lucky for those kids, the name carries weight with college coaches who don’t know any better. Been there done that. We got the name and pretty sure it didn’t hurt. She refused to go back though as talent dropped.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          She refused to go back though as talent dropped.
                          I expect a mass exodus after this season.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            What a mess. Thorns has a name and that does look good on a resume to a college coach unfamiliar with Oregon soccer on the girls side. I’ll give them that.
                            Not really. All coaches know GDA is the new top tier and Laura Schott has a ton of college coaching connections.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Not really. All coaches know GDA is the new top tier and Laura Schott has a ton of college coaching connections.
                              Already seeing new faces at practice.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Are the Thorns going to be relegated? They are rock bottom at younger ages.

                                Is that why there is talk of moving to Eastside?
                                Up tread it was suggested they are moving to Westside? Timbers kids soccer staff haven’t confirmed as far as I have seen.

                                There isn’t relegation but they will be replacing Burlingame at the bottom since they have dropped out.

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