How did thornz acad end up such a mess?

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No cost, same airline, hotel, rental van, baggage fee + food.

Fields are indectical as well.

Coaching is irrelevant in Oregon.

Competition is identical as match ups are based on talent level of team.

At the local clubs you have to pay to go play similar teams across the country which imindless and unfortunate.

Hopefully things get better.

Sincerely, Warren Buffet

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Real world accounting:

CU or FC
May 26-29
(1)Round trip coach ticket to Newark, from PDX-Cost $700+
(3) Nights lodging with breakfast +taxes $$240-$300
Van Transportation + gas $30-$50 per head
Food $75-$100
Baggae fee$25-$75

Cost $1100-$1400

Same itinerary (showcase event)

NWSL Portland Thorns USDA

Cost $0

That cannot be true. You are kidding. Say it isn't so. it won't last. No value Yugo. Van. Tryout fee. Burlingame.

Game Over.

The Empire Strikes Back.

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Do the thorns sign any contract? Do the timbers have rights to the players? That could be a problem.

Be careful!

I'd be very careful to preserve your NCAA eligibility if that is important to you or your kid.

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I'd be very careful to preserve your NCAA eligibility if that is important to you or your kid.

I don't think college is the goal here. Professional soccer is much more satisfying.

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I'd be very careful to preserve your NCAA eligibility if that is important to you or your kid.

I'd call the NCAA eligibility office to make sure you get your own info.

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I'd be very careful to preserve your NCAA eligibility if that is important to you or your kid.

The rules are complicated but primarily you cannot receive any compensation to play. You should not sign any contract, as that implies an exchange transaction and consideration. I am far from an expert. Call the NCAA eligibility office and give them all the facts.

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And making a program cost $2000, with a $125 tryout fee just to walk through the door, doesn't make it accessible to poor kids. Enjoy your non-need-based scholarship.

They have scholarships available for those that cannot afford the $2k just like the $125 fee was waivable if you had need.

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The rules are complicated but primarily you cannot receive any compensation to play. You should not sign any contract, as that implies an exchange transaction and consideration. I am far from an expert. Call the NCAA eligibility office and give them all the facts.

Good advice. Don't take eligibility advice from an anonymous chat room.

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I'd be very careful to preserve your NCAA eligibility if that is important to you or your kid.

Your child has to go through the Amateurism Certification process when they do their NCAA eligibility prep. They answer some questions for review. It's up to the school and the NCAA to determine if the player is in violation and what type of outcome is appropriate for any violation. The player could be told that they have to sit out out a determined number of games, pay back monies directly received, or even full-ineligibility status and unable to play at all.

I can't see the Timbers DA and the Thorns GDA players being in violation by signing with those academies unless they do any of the following (and the same is true for any youth sports activities):

Receive pay-to-play -specifically, a salary;try out for or sign, train or play with a professional team; sign a contract with an agent; accept a gift (item or cash) from an agent or a commercial entity, including "prize money"; play professionally-at any level before initial, full-time enrollment in college.

Prize money is the most common challenge. My son's team at age 14 was asked to posed for a sports drink company. Our club contacted the NCAA and worked under the guidelines to make sure none of the boys jeopardized their amateur status. They could not accept items from this company, including the sports drinks, water bottles, etc. A check from the ad agency was given directly to the club. Since our club requires teams to pay for their tournaments and travel, the club retained some of the money for the financial aid program and gave the team a check for team expenses.Again, this was done after talking to the NCAA to make sure we did the right thing for the boys.

I know of several other clubs who went through similar things-even when Nike and adidas were involved. I just don't see it as being any different for TDA and TGDA.

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Your child has to go through the Amateurism Certification process when they do their NCAA eligibility prep. They answer some questions for review. It's up to the school and the NCAA to determine if the player is in violation and what type of outcome is appropriate for any violation. The player could be told that they have to sit out out a determined number of games, pay back monies directly received, or even full-ineligibility status and unable to play at all.

I can't see the Timbers DA and the Thorns GDA players being in violation by signing with those academies unless they do any of the following (and the same is true for any youth sports activities):

Receive pay-to-play -specifically, a salary;try out for or sign, train or play with a professional team; sign a contract with an agent; accept a gift (item or cash) from an agent or a commercial entity, including "prize money"; play professionally-at any level before initial, full-time enrollment in college.

Prize money is the most common challenge. My son's team at age 14 was asked to posed for a sports drink company. Our club contacted the NCAA and worked under the guidelines to make sure none of the boys jeopardized their amateur status. They could not accept items from this company, including the sports drinks, water bottles, etc. A check from the ad agency was given directly to the club. Since our club requires teams to pay for their tournaments and travel, the club retained some of the money for the financial aid program and gave the team a check for team expenses.Again, this was done after talking to the NCAA to make sure we did the right thing for the boys.

I know of several other clubs who went through similar things-even when Nike and adidas were involved. I just don't see it as being any different for TDA and TGDA.

So give aways from Nike, are those no-nos? Like kits and cleats and water bottles?

"accept a gift (item or cash) from an agent or a commercial entity"

So if a commercial entity offers to pay for a van ride which you normally would have had to pay for, is that a problem?

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So give aways from Nike, are those no-nos? Like kits and cleats and water bottles?

"accept a gift (item or cash) from an agent or a commercial entity"

So if a commercial entity offers to pay for a van ride which you normally would have had to pay for, is that a problem?

Is there any contract between the pro organization and the player? Do they retain any rights?

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So give aways from Nike, are those no-nos? Like kits and cleats and water bottles?

"accept a gift (item or cash) from an agent or a commercial entity"

So if a commercial entity offers to pay for a van ride which you normally would have had to pay for, is that a problem?

VAN rides will/could not be classified as a benefit. Haven't you seen the VAN pictures?

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So give aways from Nike, are those no-nos? Like kits and cleats and water bottles?

"accept a gift (item or cash) from an agent or a commercial entity"

So if a commercial entity offers to pay for a van ride which you normally would have had to pay for, is that a problem?

Nice try. The commercial entity can pay the club not the player. The club can then choose to pay for the transportation. Every club is different so clubs do not have set fees for what a player "normally has to pay."

Always check with NCAA and the Compliance Department at the schools before acting.

"Amateur Athletic Clubs
College-bound student-athletes may participate in amateur sports clubs as long as they do not receive expenses in excess of travel, lodging or equipment for practice or competition. A prospect may accept prize money based on performance in an open competition as long as the prize is awarded by the sponsor of the event and the amount of the prize does not exceed the student-athlete’s expenses to compete in the event."

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Is there any contract between the pro organization and the player? Do they retain any rights?

Have to look at the contract.

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Is there any contract between the pro organization and the player? Do they retain any rights?

Have to look at the contract. Not sure what you mean by "retain any rights."

If you're looking at an agreement to play as an amateur and you are in compliance with NCAA/college rules, you're okay-you don't have an agent, you'er not getting a salary, etc.