How did thornz acad end up such a mess?

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To get into college from HS isn't that tough or require anything more that meeting the minimum NCAA eligibility standard. The GPA of 1 or 2 term student athletes at the one and done schools is not even worth mentioning http://www.espn.com/30for30/film?page=OneAndNotDone

Do you have any idea how low the standards are to get into college?

Kids curenntly in college had to meet this embarrassing standard
Here are the NCAA D1 requirements for athlete graduating in the class of 2013, 2014 or 2015.
You must graduate from high school
You must complete 16 core courses and receive a minimum GPA of 2.0 in those courses. The core course requirements are as follows 4 years of English, 3 years of Math (Algebra 1 or higher), 2 years of Natural or Physical Science, 2 years of Social Science, 1 extra year of English, Math or Science and 4 years of Religion, Philosophy, Foreign Language or additional years of any of the categories above.
You must take the SAT or ACT and score a minimum of 400 on the SAT (Math and Reading only) or 37 on the ACT (your sum score). GPA Calculator.
Your core course GPA combined with your SAT/ACT score must meet the minimum requirements as laid out by the NCAA Sliding Scale (please go to the bottom of this page to see the complete sliding scale).

I don't believe getting into college is a difficult task, but you should say something to the Timber's Academy players. There are 22-25 players on the roster. How many of them made it to college?

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So, it's documented that boys in Oregon have much deeper and established talent pool than the girls, based on Regional and National titles, MLS top draft picks, USYNT & USMNT, European pros and collegiate all americans. It's actually not a contest.

Even with that cache in their pocket the Timbers DA is horrible for boys and it's fully subsidized it's also a consolidation of Oregon's best talent from the HS ages.

So, let's speculate on what type of squad will be on display at CU, FC PDX & Thorns DA from a talent starved state like Oregon for these slim pickings.

We hold ourselves back and don't even give the girls a chance to succeed on the field espousing the doctrine of pay(a lot) to play.

So where is it documented? Please post the list. You will have maybe 5 players over 10 years. Erik, Rubio, and now Marco....

The CU and FC PDX teams for the most parts do no worse than the Portland Timbers from a national perspective.

There is really no money on the girl's side anyways so what is the point. The point is to go to college. Based on the number of boy's who make it, that should also be a priority for the boy's side.

Based on your argument, I would suggest you at least finish your GED.

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US Soccer will make a mess of womens soccer like they did with men.

Take the joy out of the game.
Make it a job.
Take away the fun and pride of playing for school.
Nobody cares or comes to your game.
Extensive time away from home and homework and family.News flash: it's not for fun anymore.

Right so why is this even a discussion? You hit a point where if you want to have fun, you play rec. End of discussion.

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Right so why is this even a discussion? You hit a point where if you want to have fun, you play rec. End of discussion.

Why does rec cost so much at FC Portland & CU, jus saying.

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So where is it documented? Please post the list. You will have maybe 5 players over 10 years. Erik, Rubio, and now Marco....

The CU and FC PDX teams for the most parts do no worse than the Portland Timbers from a national perspective.

There is really no money on the girl's side anyways so what is the point. The point is to go to college. Based on the number of boy's who make it, that should also be a priority for the boy's side.

Based on your argument, I would suggest you at least finish your GED.

not OP, the quality of the Boys coming from Oregon compared to the quality of girls is not even a discussion. Google USYS National & Regional Championship squads from Oregon, then google Oregon YNT & MNT, then Google Oregonian's in the MLS, then Google Oregoinans in Europe. Girls have no search results, boys have quite a few.

CU and FC PDX are just 2 local clubs playing in a US Club soccer league. The Portland Timbers field a fully funded professional DA Academy competing against other fully funded professional DA's and play against the very top shelf of this country's Club Soccer elite.

How two local girls clubs compete vs other low level clubs in the US Club league is not considered a national perspective, it's considered the bottom feeders of that league in head to head play.

The bottom line is girls will go to college from Oregon regardless of league affiliation. So what's the point of signing up for a league where you match up with other horrible teams for friendly games in New Jersey? The only class you have successful completed is Insanity 101.

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There are far too many college soccer spots for girls for any one program to be the only pathway. Nice that Oregon now has a partially subsidized program to add to the mix. Top players can still take just about any path and end up with similar results. All paths have pros and cons. Pick the one that suits your dd. Regardless of the path, it's really up to her.

DA is a path you can choose if you get selected at tryouts and it's subsidized.

What path a club chooses is not your choice it's the club's. You can go along with a club choice and stay at your local club if you don't like what their doing you can leave to another local club.

DA is not to confused with our traditional non-profit club soccer choices. Two different animals.

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not OP, the quality of the Boys coming from Oregon compared to the quality of girls is not even a discussion. Google USYS National & Regional Championship squads from Oregon, then google Oregon YNT & MNT, then Google Oregonian's in the MLS, then Google Oregoinans in Europe. Girls have no search results, boys have quite a few.

CU and FC PDX are just 2 local clubs playing in a US Club soccer league. The Portland Timbers field a fully funded professional DA Academy competing against other fully funded professional DA's and play against the very top shelf of this country's Club Soccer elite.

How two local girls clubs compete vs other low level clubs in the US Club league is not considered a national perspective, it's considered the bottom feeders of that league in head to head play.

The bottom line is girls will go to college from Oregon regardless of league affiliation. So what's the point of signing up for a league where you match up with other horrible teams for friendly games in New Jersey? The only class you have successful completed is Insanity 101.

What an absolute bafoon you are. The DA is a second or third tier team - the 03s and 04 s would be absolutely crushed by GPS, Eastside and ECNL teams. Don't dare set up a scrimmage with ECNL or GPS vs. a DA team. And DA had made sure to keep them out of the same Division at Surf Cup. Bafoons on the Burlingame bus!

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US Soccer will make a mess of womens soccer like they did with men.

Take the joy out of the game.
Make it a job.
Take away the fun and pride of playing for school.
Nobody cares or comes to your game.
Extensive time away from home and homework and family.

Everyone can agree that US Soccer has done a bad job with the mens side but hopefully they won't screw up the formula that has been so successful for women/girls. They are already meddling and thats a bad sign.

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What an absolute bafoon you are. The DA is a second or third tier team - the 03s and 04 s would be absolutely crushed by GPS, Eastside and ECNL teams. Don't dare set up a scrimmage with ECNL or GPS vs. a DA team. And DA had made sure to keep them out of the same Division at Surf Cup. Bafoons on the Burlingame bus!

The DA is a national US Soccer Development program and Portland/Oregon/SW Washington somehow, despite our low talent pool in the club system was awarded a DA with a NWSL Club Portland Thorns.

Since you don't know what it is and have some strange fixation with local non-starter clubs (GPS, Eastside, CU & FC Pdx) below is a quick refresher:

The Girls' Development Academy is part of U.S. Soccer's global leadership position in women's soccer and connects with its long-term plan to improve player and coach development. The mission of the program is to provide education, resources and support to directly impact the everyday environment for clubs to develop world-class female players.

Creating the Girls' Development Academy provides the elite female player with an improved player development model in which players can focus solely on training with the appropriate number and level of games. This model focuses on the developing the individual player within the professional environment, which allows for additional training sessions per season to enhance player development.

What is the Development Academy?

U.S. Soccer started the Development Academy Program to improve long-term player and coach development. After studying player development models domestically and internationally, U.S. Soccer collaborated with the most elite soccer clubs across the nation to create a program to provide the proper environment by emphasizing quality training and limited meaningful competition.

Why is U.S. Soccer creating a Girls' Development Academy?

They aim to provide a player centered program that is focused on the development of the individual without bias, distractions, self-interests and financial gains that compromise the optimal everyday environment. They also believe this is needed so the USA can continue to set the standard for world-class players.

This is the program you refer to as one designed for bafoons & is horrible in nature.

Why so upset about the Girls DA? Didn't they consult with your local club? Says they did this in consultation with the most elite clubs in the USA.

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Oh snap!

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Everyone can agree that US Soccer has done a bad job with the mens side but hopefully they won't screw up the formula that has been so successful for women/girls. They are already meddling and thats a bad sign.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
US Soccer will make a mess of womens soccer like they did with men.

Take the joy out of the game.
Make it a job.
Take away the fun and pride of playing for school.
Nobody cares or comes to your game.
Extensive time away from home and homework and family.
Everyone can agree that US Soccer has done a bad job with the mens side but hopefully they won't screw up the formula that has been so successful for women/girls. They are already meddling and thats a bad sign.




The DA program has weakened the men's side to the point that we are a joke. Countries the size of camas are better the the US men's team.

Encroaching on girls soccer is sad. They likely will bring the quality down. They don't understand anything about developing young girls. Very sad.

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Let's make this real clear regardless of why a boy or girl gets to play in college, girls of course have an system advantage for opportunity, that has nothing to do with their level or quality of play, it's simply title ix legislation.

This is talking-soccer oregon, why is it we don't focus on the realities in our area? within the context of a nation as a juxtaposition example, in doing this it helps frame the discussion vs broad views that have little relevance to the state of things in Oregon.

I'm not even talking about the DA, just the simple fact that Oregon produces much higher caliber boys than girls is not an argument, it's a fact. Going to play in college for a girl is not a measure of the quality of the player it's more a response to the demand of colleges needing girls to fill spots.

Which begs the question why do we have a subsidized DA for girls + 2 local clubs struggling mightily to compete at a level close to DA when our documented talent pool doesn't give us a fighting chance. All the girls spread across 3 entities.

Why as parents must we suffer these fools (clubs).

And boy's play college soccer because the quality is so good and it generates money for the school? Have you ever seen a boy's college game and the huge crowds?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
US Soccer will make a mess of womens soccer like they did with men.

Take the joy out of the game.
Make it a job.
Take away the fun and pride of playing for school.
Nobody cares or comes to your game.
Extensive time away from home and homework and family.
Everyone can agree that US Soccer has done a bad job with the mens side but hopefully they won't screw up the formula that has been so successful for women/girls. They are already meddling and thats a bad sign.




The DA program has weakened the men's side to the point that we are a joke. Countries the size of camas are better the the US men's team.

Encroaching on girls soccer is sad. They likely will bring the quality down. They don't understand anything about developing young girls. Very sad.

It is sad. It nobody is forcing the kids to do it. Hopefully they don't dampen the love to the point they make the kids bitter like the USMNT players are.

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It is sad. It nobody is forcing the kids to do it. Hopefully they don't dampen the love to the point they make the kids bitter like the USMNT players are.

Male soccer players in this country have always been bitter, when your a 5th class citizen in the world of american sports, dam.n Yankees, Patriots Warriors & Penguins.

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And boy's play college soccer because the quality is so good and it generates money for the school? Have you ever seen a boy's college game and the huge crowds?

You didn't go there did you. watching males play soccer vs. females?

To your point
http://www.ucsbgauchos.com/sports/m-...201610233vi5lt

That's more fans at one game/ which is greater than all the attendance nationwide for a an entire season in women's college soccer.