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WT 05B 3, 4H Northside 04B 3

PKs tomorrow morning to decide who faces PCU in the final since the two teams are tied for second on all other tiebreaking criteria.

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WT 05B 3, 4H Northside 04B 3

PKs tomorrow morning to decide who faces PCU in the final since the two teams are tied for second on all other tiebreaking criteria.

Oh wow, been awhile since I have heard of a team doing that. Good luck, crappy way to lose for either team for sure. And to all the other comments above thread, settle down Westside. People like or hate you. It just is. For what it is worth, whenever I have read on here anything said about Westside that is less than favorable, there is an immediate flurry of posts questioning the posters opinion. Honestly, that can't help positively influence others opinions of Westside. I am neutral on Westside, but I cringe whenever I read all of the Westside propaganda. Especially the refeences to yester-year. Why not just accept that others may not like Westside and move on. Why get so protective and offensive? I mean demanding names, dates, specific coaches admin...etc. The poster comes off a bit fanatical, don't you think? Either way, good luck Copa on the PK's. Oh, and question Copa Dad. How has the competition been overall playing 04's? Thanks.

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Oh wow, been awhile since I have heard of a team doing that. Good luck, crappy way to lose for either team for sure. And to all the other comments above thread, settle down Westside. People like or hate you. It just is. For what it is worth, whenever I have read on here anything said about Westside that is less than favorable, there is an immediate flurry of posts questioning the posters opinion. Honestly, that can't help positively influence others opinions of Westside. I am neutral on Westside, but I cringe whenever I read all of the Westside propaganda. Especially the refeences to yester-year. Why not just accept that others may not like Westside and move on. Why get so protective and offensive? I mean demanding names, dates, specific coaches admin...etc. The poster comes off a bit fanatical, don't you think? Either way, good luck Copa on the PK's. Oh, and question Copa Dad. How has the competition been overall playing 04's? Thanks.

I cringe when I see the level of play evident at the local club level modern day. At least 5 to 10 years ago we (Oregon) produced teams that were remarkable for Oregon, Region IV and the Nation. Now we drift to quasi level classic soccer as forum feature to dedicate a thread too.

It's all about your point of view and understanding of quality.

You don't know, what you don't know.

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Your 3-in-one recap for Westside's foray into 04 soccer.

Several parents on the team were nervous about this one--how would the boys fare playing up a year? As it turned out, they've been doing fine--even if they don't win the shootout tomorrow morning (more on that later), this has been a successful weekend, as the WT 05s face three of the top 04 teams in the state and came away with a 1-1-1 record.

First, Friday morning against the state champs. PCU is a very skilled ball-possession team, and so the WT 05s played a defend-and-counter game; ceding possession FTMP to PCU and trying to strike on the counter. Westside gave up one goal in the first frame, and scored none. A second goal was conceded just after halftime, but soon after WT got one back on a counterattack. Both teams had ample opportunities for another goal, but neither could score further, and PCU won 2-1.

The afternoon game was against Eastside, who were runners-up in both Clash and Beaverton Cup, both times losing to ADF. And the hero of this one was ML, who had a brace--scoring once in each half, with Eastside getting an equalizer in the second before ML got the winner.

This afternoon down in Sherwood, it was a match against 4H Northside. While WT generally allowed them to have possession, SE's crew was more aggressive about moving the line of confrontation away from their goal. No nets would be disturbed until a few minutes before halftime when a Westside player was whistled for a foul 30 yards out. The free kick was a perfect shot to the upper 90, and QS had no chance. 0-1 at half. Westside would get it back soon after halftime, when 4H's keeper brought RF down in the box. The ref pointed to the spot and the ex-FC player buried the spot kick. A few minutes later, Westside would take the lead on a ML free kick, and double the lead a bit later when a well-placed corner-kick crossed the face of goal, wasn't cleared by the 4H defense, and was tapped in by HDN waiting at the far post. The game did have a sour end as 4H got two goals to tie it in the final ten minutes; in one case the AR's flag was up but the referee apparently didn't see it and awarded the goal.

The game ended tied at 3--at which point there was some confusion. Both teams, you see, were tied exactly in the standings: One win, one tie, one loss apiece; and each with six goals for and six goals against. Tournament rules call for a shootout as the tiebreaker--but as soon as the match ended, the referees took off their green shirts and left. A few phone calls from the coach revealed the answer: there will be a shootout, Sunday morning at MVCP, right before the final. Winner gets a rematch with PCU (who beat both teams in group play), loser gets to watch from the sideline.

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I cringe when I see the level of play evident at the local club level modern day. At least 5 to 10 years ago we (Oregon) produced teams that were remarkable for Oregon, Region IV and the Nation. Now we drift to quasi level classic soccer as forum feature to dedicate a thread too.

It's all about your point of view and understanding of quality.

You don't know, what you don't know.

And the answer is what? Other clubs should cease and desist so Westside can go back to being a great club? I agree the talent is here in Oregon, but is spread out amongst many clubs and teams. Seems to me if Westside was in fact still a great club, they would get the talent. The reality is they don't. Does it help though to come on here and spew about how Oregon is not relevant nationally, and that its only claim to fame was the Metros? No. Sounds like you or your club made a bad deal with the Timbers. You live and you learn. Go watch a match and just appreciate the beauty of the game
Life is too short to ruminate.

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And the answer is what? Other clubs should cease and desist so Westside can go back to being a great club? I agree the talent is here in Oregon, but is spread out amongst many clubs and teams. Seems to me if Westside was in fact still a great club, they would get the talent. The reality is they don't. Does it help though to come on here and spew about how Oregon is not relevant nationally, and that its only claim to fame was the Metros? No. Sounds like you or your club made a bad deal with the Timbers. You live and you learn. Go watch a match and just appreciate the beauty of the game
Life is too short to ruminate.

WT parent, but not the one you were responding to.

1) Wishing for a super-team, and hoping that all the other clubs can get out of the way so FC or Westside or Eastside can assemble one and cruise through USYSA Regionals on the way to Nationals, and maybe even find the holy grail--is dumb. As is all the wailing on the girls side about how everyone else should step aside so Thorns, or CU, or GPS, or whoever can likewise go kick ass at Surf or Silverlakes.

2) On the boys side, the local MLS academy--and not any of the local youth clubs--is the premier destination for top talent. In general, that's how it should be (even if the Timbers leave a lot to be desired on the academy front); WT and the rest of the local youth clubs don't have the resources to provide a professional training environment. No first teams to pay the bills, no ability to staff up practice, and very limited when it comes to technology.

3) Lots of other parts of the country, in addition to having deeper talent pools, are in the midst of a soccer arms race, with $3000/year soccer academies popping up that are trying to provide such a training environment. The much greater club fees, at some of these places, aren't paying for travel; instead they are paying for enhanced facilities, analysis technology, support staff like nutritionists and trainers and physical therapists and the like. Is this a good thing--producing better players and stronger teams--or just more money from parents' pockets and a bigger barrier for lower-income kids? The closest thing to this locally is something like ADF, but even that operation isn't remotely like what I'm describing here. (ADF and SCA, the two operations that seem to be trying hardest to be different, mainly tout coaching philosophy and skill as differentiators; neither to my knowledge has been investing in equipment and infrastructure beyond the usual things like balls, cones, ladders, and such).

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Looks like the farmers will get what they have been asking for the last few years- a shot at the da teams: last years state cup champion (Eugene timbers), mad max inspired ADF and hooties crows are all in action along with opfc (da leaders last year) FC pdx top team and a ravaged capital FC club (unless they have guest players). Only thing missing is westside.

Cue the chit the premature chit talking from the crows and ADF, the excuses from opfc, etc. should be a great week and weekend in the TS chat room leading up to the probable ADF/opfc final next Sunday morning in the my hood challenge....

Cue the AC/DC....

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And the answer is what? Other clubs should cease and desist so Westside can go back to being a great club? I agree the talent is here in Oregon, but is spread out amongst many clubs and teams. Seems to me if Westside was in fact still a great club, they would get the talent. The reality is they don't. Does it help though to come on here and spew about how Oregon is not relevant nationally, and that its only claim to fame was the Metros? No. Sounds like you or your club made a bad deal with the Timbers. You live and you learn. Go watch a match and just appreciate the beauty of the game
Life is too short to ruminate.

Timbers Academy gutted the entire state of the best players, circa 2012-13. Talent is something Westside continues to get in spades , see timbers academy selections, college placement and most remarkably year after year they collect state cup titles in droves. FYI in all of Oregon Soccer history only one local club has bee selected as one of Americas best by Soccer America was Westside (2010). https://www.socceramerica.com/public...tml?verified=1

Hopefully they or another club perhaps or any of the multiple ones you have payed to have your kid play can bring Oregon back from the abyss and become relevant.

No time to ruminate. absolutely it's time to get it in done on the field.

Hopefully your placeholder 'club' can begin to write a history that will be significant to all Oregonians.

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WT parent, but not the one you were responding to.

1) Wishing for a super-team, and hoping that all the other clubs can get out of the way so FC or Westside or Eastside can assemble one and cruise through USYSA Regionals on the way to Nationals, and maybe even find the holy grail--is dumb. As is all the wailing on the girls side about how everyone else should step aside so Thorns, or CU, or GPS, or whoever can likewise go kick ass at Surf or Silverlakes.

2) On the boys side, the local MLS academy--and not any of the local youth clubs--is the premier destination for top talent. In general, that's how it should be (even if the Timbers leave a lot to be desired on the academy front); WT and the rest of the local youth clubs don't have the resources to provide a professional training environment. No first teams to pay the bills, no ability to staff up practice, and very limited when it comes to technology.

3) Lots of other parts of the country, in addition to having deeper talent pools, are in the midst of a soccer arms race, with $3000/year soccer academies popping up that are trying to provide such a training environment. The much greater club fees, at some of these places, aren't paying for travel; instead they are paying for enhanced facilities, analysis technology, support staff like nutritionists and trainers and physical therapists and the like. Is this a good thing--producing better players and stronger teams--or just more money from parents' pockets and a bigger barrier for lower-income kids? The closest thing to this locally is something like ADF, but even that operation isn't remotely like what I'm describing here. (ADF and SCA, the two operations that seem to be trying hardest to be different, mainly tout coaching philosophy and skill as differentiators; neither to my knowledge has been investing in equipment and infrastructure beyond the usual things like balls, cones, ladders, and such).

The best players need a platform to compete and develop. The Pay to play at consolidated rec clubs model, is meeting payroll and provides a sea of mediocrity for all to enjoy.

Wanting more is simply ludicrous. Great point.

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Looks like the farmers will get what they have been asking for the last few years- a shot at the da teams: last years state cup champion (Eugene timbers), mad max inspired ADF and hooties crows are all in action along with opfc (da leaders last year) FC pdx top team and a ravaged capital FC club (unless they have guest players). Only thing missing is westside.

Cue the chit the premature chit talking from the crows and ADF, the excuses from opfc, etc. should be a great week and weekend in the TS chat room leading up to the probable ADF/opfc final next Sunday morning in the my hood challenge....

Cue the AC/DC....

Playing on age? How sweet.

:)

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Timbers Academy gutted the entire state of the best players, circa 2012-13. Talent is something Westside continues to get in spades , see timbers academy selections, college placement and most remarkably year after year they collect state cup titles in droves. FYI in all of Oregon Soccer history only one local club has bee selected as one of Americas best by Soccer America was Westside (2010). https://www.socceramerica.com/public...tml?verified=1

Hopefully they or another club perhaps or any of the multiple ones you have payed to have your kid play can bring Oregon back from the abyss and become relevant.

No time to ruminate. absolutely it's time to get it in done on the field.

Hopefully your placeholder 'club' can begin to write a history that will be significant to all Oregonians.

Westside has a distinguished past, this is true. Again though, that is in the past. 2010??? That is 10 seasons past. As long as you keep looking back and lamenting was is gone, you marginalize your present and lose your future. I ask you, does all your b^tching and tough talk about other clubs being less than Westside help yours? No. Westside has contributed MORE to Oregon's current soccer environment than any other club. Westside got into bed with the Timbers and in a stunning development, it has not worked out well for them. So spare me your rhetoric about how how Westside is better than anybody else, because they were once relevant. Dinosaurs, telephones, Kinko's, VCR's, ToysRus, Shopping malls, Westside. What do they have in common? They all had their time, and that time is gone. No amount of manipulative b^tching, whining or delusional crying will change that. Aceeptance.

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Timbers Academy gutted the entire state of the best players, circa 2012-13. Talent is something Westside continues to get in spades , see timbers academy selections, college placement and most remarkably year after year they collect state cup titles in droves. FYI in all of Oregon Soccer history only one local club has bee selected as one of Americas best by Soccer America was Westside (2010). https://www.socceramerica.com/public...tml?verified=1

Hopefully they or another club perhaps or any of the multiple ones you have payed to have your kid play can bring Oregon back from the abyss and become relevant.

No time to ruminate. absolutely it's time to get it in done on the field.

Hopefully your placeholder 'club' can begin to write a history that will be significant to all Oregonians.

Cony, get off of the internet. You know what the doctor said about perseverating and living in the past.

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Westside wins shootout, faces PCU in final

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Playing on age? How sweet.

:)

Playing with guest players from other clubs and arresting the development of your own crappy (wait, we just read that they get talent in spades, didn't we?) team. How Westside.

🖕

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Westside wins shootout, faces PCU in final

Congratulation RF and ML.