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Yawn.

Nobody asked you about your wife

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And of course, everybody should take your word for It. You, an anonymous individual with no agenda whatsoever, correct? Or....you have an axe to grind with Crossfire in general and the DA in particular. Either way, you know nothing about those boys and your opinion is exactly that...your opinion. You sound like a Westside supporter (enabler). Sod off mate.

You don't have to take my word for it. Grab anyone with deep expertise in the game, take them to watch your team, and say, "What do you think of this?"

They will say, "This is not good. They give the ball away cheaply and rely on whacking it up to that fast kid on the flank who is not good but at least has pace. That kid in the midfield can play, but every time he gets it the parents yell at him to go forward. He could be a nice player if surrounded by kids who knew thing one about how to play. Alas, he is not. Because this team is bad."

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You don't have to take my word for it. Grab anyone with deep expertise in the game, take them to watch your team, and say, "What do you think of this?"

They will say, "This is not good. They give the ball away cheaply and rely on whacking it up to that fast kid on the flank who is not good but at least has pace. That kid in the midfield can play, but every time he gets it the parents yell at him to go forward. He could be a nice player if surrounded by kids who knew thing one about how to play. Alas, he is not. Because this team is bad."

Well this interesting. Finally, some analysis of one of the teams. I have only seen the Crossfire team play once, but it sounds like you are very familiar with them. I cannot remember kids and specific positions, but I do remember they were very physical and fast. However, I do not remember them having anybody in midfield that stood out at all. In fact, their Defense and Forwards seem to be their strengths. I could be wrong though. You sound as if you might be a coach.

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In fact, their Defense and Forwards seem to be their strengths.

A recurring theme with almost all of these teams is that you can't even tell who the good players are because the soccer is so bad. The next time you get to watch any of them play, conduct this exercise: count how many 5+ pass sequences you see. When that doughnut starts to look like all hole, drop it to 4, then 3.

When you understand that counting is mostly futile, and the number of turnovers that happen for no reason start to make you feel like your soul is being sucked through a straw, then you will have achieved a state of readiness for the following conclusion: this is bad.

Let it wash over you. Breath the cool air. Close your eyes and listen to the parents yelling about offsides or whatever. Listen for the coaches bleating "unlucky" when some charge of theirs farts a ball over the sideline without a care in the world. Listen to how quiet the kids are.

It is a symphony.

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A recurring theme with almost all of these teams is that you can't even tell who the good players are because the soccer is so bad. The next time you get to watch any of them play, conduct this exercise: count how many 5+ pass sequences you see. When that doughnut starts to look like all hole, drop it to 4, then 3.

When you understand that counting is mostly futile, and the number of turnovers that happen for no reason start to make you feel like your soul is being sucked through a straw, then you will have achieved a state of readiness for the following conclusion: this is bad.

Let it wash over you. Breath the cool air. Close your eyes and listen to the parents yelling about offsides or whatever. Listen for the coaches bleating "unlucky" when some charge of theirs farts a ball over the sideline without a care in the world. Listen to how quiet the kids are.

It is a symphony.

Okay, so in your ESTEEMED opinion what is good soccer in the Oregon? Does it exist? If not, what is your answer to fix things. You sound entirely too smug as you describe your disdain for Crossfire and DA, thus implying that you have some sort of skin in the game.

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Okay, so in your ESTEEMED opinion what is good soccer in the Oregon? Does it exist? If not, what is your answer to fix things. You sound entirely too smug as you describe your disdain for Crossfire and DA, thus implying that you have some sort of skin in the game.

Pretty sure the dude does not have any skin in the game. He is an Internet troll who likes to jump on all the different threads and Bash people. It makes him feel better about living in his mom's basement and eating beef-a-roni

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Pretty sure the dude does not have any skin in the game. He is an Internet troll who likes to jump on all the different threads and Bash people. It makes him feel better about living in his mom's basement and eating beef-a-roni

Wait a minute now....beef-a-roni is quite delicious when you are drunk!

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You don't have to take my word for it. Grab anyone with deep expertise in the game, take them to watch your team, and say, "What do you think of this?"

They will say, "This is not good. They give the ball away cheaply and rely on whacking it up to that fast kid on the flank who is not good but at least has pace. That kid in the midfield can play, but every time he gets it the parents yell at him to go forward. He could be a nice player if surrounded by kids who knew thing one about how to play. Alas, he is not. Because this team is bad."

So who is the best team in the area then?

And by the way I could say the exact same thing about all the teams I have seen play here, Washington and California. Many times the ball gets given away and not possessed they are 12!

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So who is the best team in the area then?

And by the way I could say the exact same thing about all the teams I have seen play here, Washington and California. Many times the ball gets given away and not possessed they are 12!

And EVERY team has suspect players that make things difficult on the top players. I have seen crossfire play many times and I think they connect passes as well as all the other teams in the area in stretches. They have several different quality players and I would say their midfield is their weakness actually

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A recurring theme with almost all of these teams is that you can't even tell who the good players are because the soccer is so bad. The next time you get to watch any of them play, conduct this exercise: count how many 5+ pass sequences you see. When that doughnut starts to look like all hole, drop it to 4, then 3.

When you understand that counting is mostly futile, and the number of turnovers that happen for no reason start to make you feel like your soul is being sucked through a straw, then you will have achieved a state of readiness for the following conclusion: this is bad.

Let it wash over you. Breath the cool air. Close your eyes and listen to the parents yelling about offsides or whatever. Listen for the coaches bleating "unlucky" when some charge of theirs farts a ball over the sideline without a care in the world. Listen to how quiet the kids are.

It is a symphony.

The thing is... when you play in a league in which nobody values possession (like most 05 soccer around here), there's no reason you should worry about it either: who cares if you lose the ball, when the other team will reliably give it back to you? In this lower plane of soccer development, POSITION (keeping the ball away from your own net) is more important than POSSESSION (keeping the ball at your own feet). Just boot it long, pressure the other team's defense (many of which are selected for their ability to mark and tackle, but like a dog who catches a car, have no clue what to do with it once they've taken it from the opponent) into making a mistake, and voila! Goal.

But when a team knows how to keep the other team from taking the ball, they soon find that bringing the ball up the field is a more reliable way to build an attack than booting it there.

There's a reason a few teams each year start the season hot--winning the summer tournaments and doing well in fall league--but end up on the back end of 7-0 blowouts in the spring. The smarter teams focus on possession, don't worry about early season results, and are able to make mincemeat of the bootball teams once the players have learned and bought into the notion that having the ball, and not losing it, is important.

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Final results for RCF 05DA futsal league

BSC 3-0-1
FC Navy 3-1-0
WashT #2 2-1-1
WashT #1 2-2-0
ET 1-2-1
Crossfire Blue 1-2-1
FC White 1-3-0
Crossfire White 1-3-0.

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The thing is... when you play in a league in which nobody values possession (like most 05 soccer around here), there's no reason you should worry about it either: who cares if you lose the ball, when the other team will reliably give it back to you? In this lower plane of soccer development, POSITION (keeping the ball away from your own net) is more important than POSSESSION (keeping the ball at your own feet). Just boot it long, pressure the other team's defense (many of which are selected for their ability to mark and tackle, but like a dog who catches a car, have no clue what to do with it once they've taken it from the opponent) into making a mistake, and voila! Goal.

But when a team knows how to keep the other team from taking the ball, they soon find that bringing the ball up the field is a more reliable way to build an attack than booting it there.

There's a reason a few teams each year start the season hot--winning the summer tournaments and doing well in fall league--but end up on the back end of 7-0 blowouts in the spring. The smarter teams focus on possession, don't worry about early season results, and are able to make mincemeat of the bootball teams once the players have learned and bought into the notion that having the ball, and not losing it, is important.

Enough said you just showed yourself to be the westside honk you were called out as. And by the way the score the next time we played was very different..good to hear you are still hanging on to that game with the chitty pop up goals. That was your one win against the top 4 teams last year. I guess we will see how good your "possession" is in a few weeks since you seem to have not cared about early season results so far based on your record.....

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Enough said you just showed yourself to be the westside honk you were called out as. And by the way the score the next time we played was very different..good to hear you are still hanging on to that game with the chitty pop up goals. That was your one win against the top 4 teams last year. I guess we will see how good your "possession" is in a few weeks since you seem to have not cared about early season results so far based on your record.....

What a fabulous, spectacular own goal. I write an abstract treatise about differing styles of soccer, you admit to being on the receiving end of a whipping as described. I might be a Westside honk, but I'm also not the only participant in this conversation--the honk explicitly badmouthing Crossfire above was someone else.

And of course, Crossfire wasn't the only run-and-gun team to get whipped in said fashion (PCU, Bend, Eugene, and even WashT getting beaten down on regular occasions), and Westside wasn't the only technical team to deliver such a beating. Crossfire was terrible last spring, going 2-4-3. Westside scored as many goals against you in that one game as you scored all spring season. To your credit, you rebounded somewhat and got to the State Cup quarterfinals, but the four semifinalists were all technically skilled teams, as were the four teams at the top of the Spring League table. (FC may have gotten most of it's offense through Gunder and Lightning, and we all liked to make fun of their NFL-quality punter in goal, but they certainly knew how to play technical soccer).

But hey--you won Clash of the Border last year and were second place in Fall League. Woohoo!

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BSC 3-0-1
FC Navy 3-1-0
WashT #2 2-1-1
WashT #1 2-2-0
ET 1-2-1
Crossfire Blue 1-2-1
FC White 1-3-0
Crossfire White 1-3-0.

And for what it's worth.. Westside's DA Team 1 (out of two futsal teams formed) wins the inaugural OYSA futsal tournament, defeating one of the RCF house teams 10-3 in the final. The level of competition in this tournament wasn't all that great, but so it goes...

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What a fabulous, spectacular own goal. I write an abstract treatise about differing styles of soccer, you admit to being on the receiving end of a whipping as described. I might be a Westside honk, but I'm also not the only participant in this conversation--the honk explicitly badmouthing Crossfire above was someone else.

And of course, Crossfire wasn't the only run-and-gun team to get whipped in said fashion (PCU, Bend, Eugene, and even WashT getting beaten down on regular occasions), and Westside wasn't the only technical team to deliver such a beating. Crossfire was terrible last spring, going 2-4-3. Westside scored as many goals against you in that one game as you scored all spring season. To your credit, you rebounded somewhat and got to the State Cup quarterfinals, but the four semifinalists were all technically skilled teams, as were the four teams at the top of the Spring League table. (FC may have gotten most of it's offense through Gunder and Lightning, and we all liked to make fun of their NFL-quality punter in goal, but they certainly knew how to play technical soccer).

But hey--you won Clash of the Border last year and were second place in Fall League. Woohoo!

Haha...now I am laughing. At the end of the day, when you loom at the U12 season, Westside under delivered as usual. Did not win anything, but the prize for the biggest A-holes on talking soccer. The lost every time they played FC. They lost Lmost every time they played Crossfire and ADF. Seriously, clown take a look at what you have and wake up. Your DA team is about as much of a joke as your Johnson. Had your club gone to Cali, you would have seen that Crossfire's team did FAR better than any other Oregon club, against tougher competition than even TA played. Westside < 💩