Boys 05

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Crossfire has no track record of decent high school teams or college placement.

FC Portland
Eastside T
Westside T
Washington Timbers
Capital FC.. although Eugene Timbers should do this and xl out Capital.

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Crossfire has no track record of decent high school teams or college placement.

FC Portland
Eastside T
Westside T
Washington Timbers
Capital FC.. although Eugene Timbers should do this and xl out Capital.

CFC is a far stronger club than Eugene.

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Who was the best DA team last year??- Crossfire. You do it geographically 1 team on the eastside, Washington, south area (crossfire) and a team on the westside (fc or westside)

Crossfire, on the boys' side, is a bootball team. The whole point of DA is to get away from bootball.

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A few things:

1) Washington is far more populous than Oregon, and Seattle far moreso than Portland. I would expect it's top youth soccer teams, to be on average, superior to that alone, all else being equal.

2) IIRC, Washington youth soccer does far more to encourage the creation of super-elite clubs--in the city of Seattle, SU and Crossfire Premier face far less competition from upstarts (due to rules and regulations imposed by the state association) than do the clubs down here. ADF rose out of nothing to a state championship the year before last, and was runner-up last year; and did so by providing an alternative to both the coaching styles at FC and WT. Oregon youth soccer has seen a bit of talent dilution and parity--which makes for better intra-state competition, but reduces the chance that a local club will succeed in regional or national competitions.

3) As noted previously, Seattle's MLS team is not operating a U13 academy that exists on top of the pyramid, above the clubs. Portland's MLS team is doing so.

All good points. Thank you. At times, coaches and DOC's hide behind the population facts. Would really just like to see an improvement in the quality of coaching and consistency in developing players. There are smaller markets with excellent teams. Detroit has several amazing teams and it's because of solid and competitive coaching.

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Crossfire has no track record of decent high school teams or college placement.

FC Portland
Eastside T
Westside T
Washington Timbers
Capital FC.. although Eugene Timbers should do this and xl out Capital.

There is no club from Portland proper in that list, unless you count FC via their partnership with NEU.

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Crossfire has no track record of decent high school teams or college placement.

FC Portland
Eastside T
Westside T
Washington Timbers
Capital FC.. although Eugene Timbers should do this and xl out Capital.

So you want it to be a timbers thing basically, and how can you discount the fact that crossfire was the best da team last year and will probably have the best 05 da team this year based on the limited number of friendlies that have been played so far

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Crossfire, on the boys' side, is a bootball team. The whole point of DA is to get away from bootball.

You are clueless- watch a DA game before you talk out of both sides of your mouth

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There is no club from Portland proper in that list, unless you count FC via their partnership with NEU.

Did PCU apply for DA? They're big enough, though not sure if the meet the technical requirements.

(And while their 05 boys team stinks, that didn't stop Eastside...)

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You are clueless- watch a DA game before you talk out of both sides of your mouth

I've watched many Crossfire and LOSC games. KICK IT LONG!

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I've watched many Crossfire and LOSC games. KICK IT LONG!

Watch a DA game and your opinion will be proven wrong. Based on the games I saw last year from crossfire DA and again this year at Harmony from the 04, 05, and even 06 crossfire kids focused on possession not bootball. In fact the 05's sliced up Washington timbers with crisp passing and built up attacks from the back with patience.

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All good points. Thank you. At times, coaches and DOC's hide behind the population facts. Would really just like to see an improvement in the quality of coaching and consistency in developing players. There are smaller markets with excellent teams. Detroit has several amazing teams and it's because of solid and competitive coaching.

This can happen....you need to pay $25k/team to get these types of coaches. Our market already complains about $1500 club fees so it will never happen

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Crossfire has no track record of decent high school teams or college placement.

FC Portland
Eastside T
Westside T
Washington Timbers
Capital FC.. although Eugene Timbers should do this and xl out Capital.

I don't know how many boys came through LO or Crossfire, but I'll remind you that Lakeridge High won state for the boys in high school last year. Is that decent?

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This is a silly discussion - USDA wants as many clubs on their platform as possible. From an ideological and power perspective, they are not going to turn down clubs for the little DA that have the coaching qualifications and other USDA requirements.

They certainly want to the "historic" clubs in their platform, but push come to shove they have shown willingness to take on newer clubs that have the coaching attributes/
commitments even if they lack the history.

What will be interesting is if any of the existing little DA clubs opt out of the program. It is not an easy program to administer and kills your clubs ability to compete for things like state cup (that is part of the point of course) . . . some clubs may decide they want their young boys to go back to competing for state.

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Not silly when seeing how diluted some teams are. The purpose of the Academy is to develop elite players.. it's not to just expand through anyone with an A license who is looking to increase club membership. Of the seven clubs that have little DA, there are probably only enough top players to make two or three teams. Hopefully the number of clubs offering this will narrow at u15.

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Not silly when seeing how diluted some teams are. The purpose of the Academy is to develop elite players.. it's not to just expand through anyone with an A license who is looking to increase club membership. Of the seven clubs that have little DA, there are probably only enough top players to make two or three teams. Hopefully the number of clubs offering this will narrow at u15.

You need to take that up with USDA.USDA seems to want the funnel to be as wide as possible at the young ages.

In terms of u15, I am not sure you will see the many (maybe any) of these clubs do it - too expensive to run a USDA program in a regional/national league.