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Academy teams are not for everyone. There is no guarantee of play time nor if you will play on the weekend on the "A" team or "B" team. So every week at practice the kids feel like they are at a tryout for game time, which really motivates some kids but kills the love of the game in others. FCP has decent two-touch play at times but over the years I have yet to see any of their teams display any real creativity which becomes problematic when the kids get older and start playing against teams that can do the same but add to that have highly technical and creative players. FCP has always focused on team development, not individual player development. It's been one of their biggest criticisms. -
Haven't seen any club apply the pool system consistently throughout age groups and genders including FC. Have many friends with kids there and feedback is that the kids don't all practice together. After coming from a club that placed kids on a team after tryouts without opportunity for movement, I can appreciate the opportunity for kids in a true pool system. Just don't think FC has implemented it fully as a club. Maybe some at select age groups, but not universally.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Thoughts on President's Cup?
The President's Cup gets started this weekend. One of the few instances in which commenting on non-prem teams seems appropriate, as this (along with the Founders Cup) is THE event of the year for many of these clubs:
The teams, along with fall league finish and LPR rankings (higher number is better):
Group A:
WT FC Red 2 (1st in D1 Green, 991)
ETFC Marseille Red (D1 White, 915)
SESC 05B Kings Blue (D1 White 986)
CFC 05B Adelman 2 (D2 White, 872)
Group B:
Basin United SC 05B Elite (2nd in D1 Green, 1038)
HSC 05B Boca (D1 White, 1060)
GPYSC 05B Blue (D1 White, 879)
PCU 05B Red 2 (864, D1 Blue)
Group C:
FC Salmon Creek 05B White (D1 Green, 937)
FC Portland 05B White (D1 White, 994)
Corvallis SC 05B White (D1 White, 656)
WT 05B Copa TS (D1 Blue, 819)
Group D:
LOSC 05B Green 1 (D1 Green, 865)
Bend FC 05B White (D1 Green, 695)
Rogue Valley Timbers White (D1 White, 758)
Eastside Timbers 05B Red (D1 Blue, 827)
Group E:
Southside SC 05B Azul (D1 Green, 1009)
4H 05B Cosmos (D1 Green, 857)
David Douglas 05B FC Piamonte (D1 Blue, 962)
AUCSC 05B Atletico Black (D1 Blue, 913)
Group F:
WT 05B Samba (D1 Green, 944)
CFC 05B Rodriguez (D1 Green, 877)
WAFC 05B Coyotes (D1 Blue, 887)
WUSC 05B White (D1 Blue, 987)
The LPR numbers are a bit interesting, and show one of the weaknesses of ELO ratings (many of the White and Blue teams have higher numbers than the higher-seeded Green teams)--if you have cliques of teams that play against each other, rating numbers don't compare well with teams outside the cliques.
My expectation is that all of the high seeds (first team listed in each group), will be favorites to advance, though groups E and F could get dicey for the top seeds. Beyond that, Red 2 (despite its lower ELO ranking, almost certainly earned getting whacked by premier teams in summer tournaments) ought to be the favorites: They have no real weaknesses at this level, are fast and skilled at every position, and the one team to beat them in Fall (BSC) isn't in President's Cup. Basin and SSC have looked impressive among the top seeds as well, and are by far the best defensive teams in the tournament. LOSC did well early, got a high seed, and has since done poorly; Salmon Creek has also struggled of late. Samba could be a sleeper--like Red 2, they played up in a lot of summer tournaments and endured their share of beatdowns by premier teams; but finished fall league strong, and have played well against many of the teams ahead of them. They score a lot of goals, but gave up nearly as many in Fall League.
Who will be the wildcards? I've no idea--best bet is whoever can manage a draw with their group's top seed. Beyond that, the tiebreakers are essentially a crapshoot.Comment
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It's fully implemented at FCP. My kid's been there for years and all age groups / genders are organized the same way. There is one coach who is the age group coordinator and the head coach of the "A" team. The AGC also determines the rosters each week. All kids in the age group train together every session.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Hot FC talk here...Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
The reality is that FCP has a couple good players, and a couple really good players. That is why that team is doing so well right now. I don't care about their parents...and yes, I have heard the people mentioned on here. And I do not care about their coach either, as he has not shown me anything except a penchant for petulance. For Pete's sake, their goalie punts the ball everytime!! A couple good players are the difference makers.Comment
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Predictions for this weekend
Bracket*-*Saturday, November 05, 2016
Bend FC Timbers 05B RED 3 vs. Crossfire Oregon 05B Green 4
4-H 05B Joga Jr 1 vs. FC Portland 05B NAVY 5
Bracket*-*Sunday, November 06, 2016
ADF 05B 2 vs. FC Portland 05B NAVY 4
IFC 05B Eagles 0 vs. Westside Timbers 05B Copa 2
ETFC 05B Marseille Black 2 vs. Bend FC Timbers 05B RED 4Comment
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Settle down FCP dad.... I stand by my statement. Only a couple. You can try to delude yourself and think differentlyOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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These boys are 10 & 11. Who may be viewed as "good" now due to earlier growth spurts or high technical prowess could be a B team player in two years. Just encourage fun and sit back and enjoy the view from the sidelines while it lasts.Comment
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Think you have that backwards. FCP is clearly focused so much on individual player development that their teams often under perform. But that's OK. Teams don't get recruited to play college soccer, individuals do, and they put dozens of kids into college soccer every year.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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College soccer? This is a boys' thread. If boys want a free ride in college, the should learn to play the sort of football in which the ball has pointy ends.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Elite boys' clubs like FC and WT are interested in developing potential pros as much as they are interested in getting players into college. NCAA soccer stinks.Comment
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You Moron!!Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
The individual cannot shine without their team mates!
Keep drinking that cool aid. FCP are conning their members and as long as there are people like you that fall for their BS, then the club will keep on rolling along on the mediocre pathway.Comment
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Winners & losers look correct, but I think you are being a little optimistic with the point differentials of FCP. I am calling for one upset though,
Wait for it........
Wait for it........
ADF 3 - FCP 2
BAM!Comment
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