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Yet two more posts from a parent who is clinging to the hope that this doesn't happen. So sorry your kid has a November birthday. Rec should be a good fit for her.

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If your kids wants to play on grade level with school friends or even have friends in soccer, they are part of the problem. This is about getting a college scholarship. Get them OUT.

We should all be honored to make strides to help the USMNT.

Anyone who questions this should be treated with great suspicion.
Do kids really want to play with friends? That is so asinine that I want to throw up.

Soccer should be about pushing yourself through to be the best possible soccer player you can possibly be. Developing relationships with other kids, or God forbid friendships, is distracting and therefore should be off the table."



Thank you. If we can get the kids to understand that this is not for fun we will move forward as a country in soccer.

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Yeah. Any kid that wants to play with friends or school mates are weak and soft. It is indicative of poor parenting. You should force them to leave all their friends every 12-18 months and make new ones.

If your kid wants to play soccer to have fun, it is a reflection of poor parenting skills. You are at fault.

They should realize that they are part of something bigger. The USMNT needs this change.

Anyone who plays for enjoyment or with friends should be removed from the team, forcibly if need be.

This person gets it. This is not about fun and games. That is for rec. This is not about friends and having fun. That is for rec.

I would vote for you to be in charge.

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What team stays together year after year? Every team my kids have been on turns over 3-6 players every year. Plus, if you play at Crossfire feeder clubs, they do a massive reorg of teams at U13 as the clubs come together. All of this whining that teams have to break up must be from parents who have teams at rec, or just above rec, level. The top teams are always replacing players each year.

The panic is coming from the fall born players parents who don't want their own children to have to go off to the older team. They are desparate to keep the current team together to keep their advantage & continue to be impact players with their younger teammates. Clubs can't let teams stay together because the fall born players on the younger team have to move up so room must be made for them and the older team needs those fall players to replace the older year fall players they lost. Also need to go birth year to stay competitive out of state. True, teams have always changed but the ones who were bumped have never liked the change. This change is totally stupid and unnecessary but the players will all be fine and many will actually end up in a better situation - especially the Jan- July players. I have one of each so I know both sides. In the end, all teams have to change so best to pull the bandaid off.

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The panic is coming from the fall born players parents who don't want their own children to have to go off to the older team. They are desparate to keep the current team together to keep their advantage & continue to be impact players with their younger teammates. Clubs can't let teams stay together because the fall born players on the younger team have to move up so room must be made for them and the older team needs those fall players to replace the older year fall players they lost. Also need to go birth year to stay competitive out of state. True, teams have always changed but the ones who were bumped have never liked the change. This change is totally stupid and unnecessary but the players will all be fine and many will actually end up in a better situation - especially the Jan- July players. I have one of each so I know both sides. In the end, all teams have to change so best to pull the bandaid off.

The fact that it is causing so much heartache with the parents of kids born in the fall is making me happy. Seeing them twist and turn and complain is great.

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The panic is coming from the fall born players parents who don't want their own children to have to go off to the older team. They are desparate to keep the current team together to keep their advantage & continue to be impact players with their younger teammates. Clubs can't let teams stay together because the fall born players on the younger team have to move up so room must be made for them and the older team needs those fall players to replace the older year fall players they lost. Also need to go birth year to stay competitive out of state. True, teams have always changed but the ones who were bumped have never liked the change. This change is totally stupid and unnecessary but the players will all be fine and many will actually end up in a better situation - especially the Jan- July players. I have one of each so I know both sides. In the end, all teams have to change so best to pull the bandaid off.

I am the registrar of my club and not a single person has complained to me about their fall kid now being the youngest. I don't even think that most of them have grasped that yet as we are a smaller club with mostly clueless parents. However, I have received a massive amount of calls concerning the possibility of teams breaking up because many of them are currently held together with chewing gum and bailing wire.

Like all small clubs every team has kids playing up on them to have enough players to field a team and we don't have teams in half the age groups. We tend to have an every other year kind of thing going on due to the small numbers that come out of our intramural programs. So when we start displacing kids to make teams adjust to the new age groups we have no home for those displaced kids. They are going to have to find another club somewhere to play. That is a real problem for many as we are one of the few low cost clubs still around in our immediate area. Many of the clubs have jumped on the paid Director of Coaching bandwagon, paid trainers running all aspects of the team, etc so even if these kids were good enough to make neighboring teams they are looking at going from $100 a season in costs to over $100 a month. The reason these kids play for our small program in the first place was because when they hit U9/U10 and saw the costs involved in travel they looked for options and came our way. Faced with those costs I'd guess that over half these displaced kids are going to quit the sport for purely financial reasons and that sucks.

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The fact that it is causing so much heartache with the parents of kids born in the fall is making me happy. Seeing them twist and turn and complain is great.

What a nice person you are! I wouldn't get too excited. I keep hearing rumors about more & more teams convincing their DoCs to just stay together. I don't see how this won't end up in disaster and hurt the players in the teams above & below but it may happen nonetheless. Your team might be one of them. People happy with the change aren't saying anything but the fall parents complaints are off the charts. The squeaky wheels get the grease.

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I am the registrar of my club and not a single person has complained to me about their fall kid now being the youngest. I don't even think that most of them have grasped that yet as we are a smaller club with mostly clueless parents. However, I have received a massive amount of calls concerning the possibility of teams breaking up because many of them are currently held together with chewing gum and bailing wire.

Like all small clubs every team has kids playing up on them to have enough players to field a team and we don't have teams in half the age groups. We tend to have an every other year kind of thing going on due to the small numbers that come out of our intramural programs. So when we start displacing kids to make teams adjust to the new age groups we have no home for those displaced kids. They are going to have to find another club somewhere to play. That is a real problem for many as we are one of the few low cost clubs still around in our immediate area. Many of the clubs have jumped on the paid Director of Coaching bandwagon, paid trainers running all aspects of the team, etc so even if these kids were good enough to make neighboring teams they are looking at going from $100 a season in costs to over $100 a month. The reason these kids play for our small program in the first place was because when they hit U9/U10 and saw the costs involved in travel they looked for options and came our way. Faced with those costs I'd guess that over half these displaced kids are going to quit the sport for purely financial reasons and that sucks.

Very small clubs like yours with only a few teams are the ones who can simply keep all your teams together and play up. You don't have teams above & below that will be effected. Yes, your teams will be less competitive than before but the kids in your kind of case can stay together & not much will change.

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Obviously the panicked fall parents are never going to say they don't want their kid to lose their advantage. Don't be so naive. Of course their only concern is keeping the team together - not! Did they complain & cry when several players on their team were bumped to the B team last year? Didn't think so. Soccer teams are ever-changing every year anyway.

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I am the registrar of my club and not a single person has complained to me about their fall kid now being the youngest. I don't even think that most of them have grasped that yet as we are a smaller club with mostly clueless parents. However, I have received a massive amount of calls concerning the possibility of teams breaking up because many of them are currently held together with chewing gum and bailing wire.

Like all small clubs every team has kids playing up on them to have enough players to field a team and we don't have teams in half the age groups. We tend to have an every other year kind of thing going on due to the small numbers that come out of our intramural programs. So when we start displacing kids to make teams adjust to the new age groups we have no home for those displaced kids. They are going to have to find another club somewhere to play. That is a real problem for many as we are one of the few low cost clubs still around in our immediate area. Many of the clubs have jumped on the paid Director of Coaching bandwagon, paid trainers running all aspects of the team, etc so even if these kids were good enough to make neighboring teams they are looking at going from $100 a season in costs to over $100 a month. The reason these kids play for our small program in the first place was because when they hit U9/U10 and saw the costs involved in travel they looked for options and came our way. Faced with those costs I'd guess that over half these displaced kids are going to quit the sport for purely financial reasons and that sucks.

Our club is getting inundated with concern for breaking up teams and more concerning is kids losing a year due to high school/middle school cut off.

I'd say that despite efforts to educate people most still don't understand this change. Lots of questions why, but what can you say. It's a dumb change that doesn't make any sense. Real hassle on the admin side.

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I am the registrar of my club and not a single person has complained to me about their fall kid now being the youngest. I don't even think that most of them have grasped that yet as we are a smaller club with mostly clueless parents. However, I have received a massive amount of calls concerning the possibility of teams breaking up because many of them are currently held together with chewing gum and bailing wire.

Like all small clubs every team has kids playing up on them to have enough players to field a team and we don't have teams in half the age groups. We tend to have an every other year kind of thing going on due to the small numbers that come out of our intramural programs. So when we start displacing kids to make teams adjust to the new age groups we have no home for those displaced kids. They are going to have to find another club somewhere to play. That is a real problem for many as we are one of the few low cost clubs still around in our immediate area. Many of the clubs have jumped on the paid Director of Coaching bandwagon, paid trainers running all aspects of the team, etc so even if these kids were good enough to make neighboring teams they are looking at going from $100 a season in costs to over $100 a month. The reason these kids play for our small program in the first place was because when they hit U9/U10 and saw the costs involved in travel they looked for options and came our way. Faced with those costs I'd guess that over half these displaced kids are going to quit the sport for purely financial reasons and that sucks.

Yes it is expected that clubs, even highly competitive clubs, will lose players on the girls side. Just raise your fees to offset the losses.

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Very small clubs like yours with only a few teams are the ones who can simply keep all your teams together and play up. You don't have teams above & below that will be effected. Yes, your teams will be less competitive than before but the kids in your kind of case can stay together & not much will change.

The problem is that most of our teams already struggle to be competitive. I'm quite proud that our parent-coached teams are mid-pack in intermediate divisions despite the fact that we are generally playing clubs 5x our size. But if our teams started having 80% or 90% of the kids playing up instead of the current 20% or 30% just so the older players could stay they are likely going to become bottom feeders and bottom feeders make up the majority of teams that fold every year. And if our teams start folding we are going to be displacing far more kids in the long run.

I know in the long term it won't matter as new travel teams form on age in the first place but in the short term we have only bad choices.

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I am the registrar of my club and not a single person has complained to me about their fall kid now being the youngest. I don't even think that most of them have grasped that yet as we are a smaller club with mostly clueless parents. However, I have received a massive amount of calls concerning the possibility of teams breaking up because many of them are currently held together with chewing gum and bailing wire.

Like all small clubs every team has kids playing up on them to have enough players to field a team and we don't have teams in half the age groups. We tend to have an every other year kind of thing going on due to the small numbers that come out of our intramural programs. So when we start displacing kids to make teams adjust to the new age groups we have no home for those displaced kids. They are going to have to find another club somewhere to play. That is a real problem for many as we are one of the few low cost clubs still around in our immediate area. Many of the clubs have jumped on the paid Director of Coaching bandwagon, paid trainers running all aspects of the team, etc so even if these kids were good enough to make neighboring teams they are looking at going from $100 a season in costs to over $100 a month. The reason these kids play for our small program in the first place was because when they hit U9/U10 and saw the costs involved in travel they looked for options and came our way. Faced with those costs I'd guess that over half these displaced kids are going to quit the sport for purely financial reasons and that sucks.

I completely understand where you are coming fun. Our kids started in rec then struggled with a small but growing competitive program then switched to a "premier" team. I would encourage you to try to work with a neighboring club, but will probably be difficult. We went through the OPL league issues, just focus on your kid and find the right fit for them. Great if you are able to be registrar but it's very difficult to deal with all the changes and issues.

Something in between is still needed. I see now that THUSC has a "select" program. (Anybody know about that?) Would have liked that to have been an option for us, but back then (long story short) their response to working together was, come to our tryouts and pay our fees for our coaches! Hopefully times have changed...


By the way, our youngest ended up going to a big club, she plans to quit club in HS and do other sports. Was the big club and fees worth it? Not really but the best option we had for several reasons.

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I am the registrar of my club and not a single person has complained to me about their fall kid now being the youngest. I don't even think that most of them have grasped that yet as we are a smaller club with mostly clueless parents. However, I have received a massive amount of calls concerning the possibility of teams breaking up because many of them are currently held together with chewing gum and bailing wire.

Like all small clubs every team has kids playing up on them to have enough players to field a team and we don't have teams in half the age groups. We tend to have an every other year kind of thing going on due to the small numbers that come out of our intramural programs. So when we start displacing kids to make teams adjust to the new age groups we have no home for those displaced kids. They are going to have to find another club somewhere to play. That is a real problem for many as we are one of the few low cost clubs still around in our immediate area. Many of the clubs have jumped on the paid Director of Coaching bandwagon, paid trainers running all aspects of the team, etc so even if these kids were good enough to make neighboring teams they are looking at going from $100 a season in costs to over $100 a month. The reason these kids play for our small program in the first place was because when they hit U9/U10 and saw the costs involved in travel they looked for options and came our way. Faced with those costs I'd guess that over half these displaced kids are going to quit the sport for purely financial reasons and that sucks.

Sounds like you are a rec club with parents thinking that you are more than that. Time to admit the truth to them. Tell the dads who are coaching teams to just move the teams to rec and they can all stay together. Problem solved.

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What a nice person you are! I wouldn't get too excited. I keep hearing rumors about more & more teams convincing their DoCs to just stay together. I don't see how this won't end up in disaster and hurt the players in the teams above & below but it may happen nonetheless. Your team might be one of them. People happy with the change aren't saying anything but the fall parents complaints are off the charts. The squeaky wheels get the grease.

Thanks. I am a nice person. And I really don't care if they don't change as my kid isn't anywhere near the youngest right now but will be the oldest if they change. It's a win win for me. But any hope that this doesn't go through is pretty much just that, hope. It's going to happen. And I guarantee that the club we are with will go make the change. Sounds like a lot of movement to the rec leagues will come out of this. Have fun with that. Can you coach? If so, it may yield a weekend job for you.