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    Maybe we shouldn't hold back kids in school. They everyone plays age / grade level.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Maybe we shouldn't hold back kids in school. They everyone plays age / grade level.
      The most common state school cutoff is Aug/Sept. Those Aug-Dec kids started on schedule. Too bad the soccer playing ones parents didn't start them in school a year early so they could now play with their grade.

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        It's only the Aug-Dec kids' parents who are complaining. Particularly the fall born kids on A teams. Those players will no longer be the oldest on their team and may no longer be starters or no longer even make the A team. They are begging all the younger birth year players on their team to give up their new advantage and play up with them so that they don't have to move on and likely not keep their individual ranking and cushy spot. The really good fall born players who will end up still being an impact player even on their birth year team will also benefit from the change. A much higher percentage of players are positively effected by this change and fewer of them will quit the sport than before when they were the disadvantaged ones. And there are several fall born kids on each team so they will still be together - no one is an island in this situation. All players & teams across the country are in the same boat. It may be choppy for a bit for a few but it will all even out in the end.

        The kids will all be fine with a 5 month shift in age groups. Harder on the parents.

        That said, the change is stupid, unnecessary & is causing a big mess right now. Wish it wasn't happening but since it is, can't wait till it's done & we can get on with soccer.

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          The people that are complaining are the people that see no good in this mid-stream change.

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            I don't like the change but there is definitely a lot of good in it for a lot of players - just not the Sept-Dec born players.

            Our A teams back up goalie is great but rarely gets to play because the older fall born goalie is even better. Going to birth year, that back up goalie will be the starter and play all game on the birth year team. The fall goalie is very good and will likely do well playing up on birth age too. She and her fellow fall bday players will also help the older team become much better.

            Many of the earlier birth year players will now have a chance to make the A team or become a standout star if already on the A team.

            The fall birthday kids will get to play on birth year teams and be more challenged by older players, helping them get better and helping them compete better on already birth year elite teams like PDP/ODP, etc.

            Younger skilled players born near the beginning of the year who haven't grown as much will now get to be the oldest and get to play vs kids who aren't quite as much bigger/faster.

            While it definitely has some negatives for the fall bday players, this birth year change has a lot of positives for a lot of players - even the fall birthday players.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              If Timbers really wanted to stress development they would disallow all GK punts below U13. But that requires the "encroachment" line that the other team can't cross until the 1st defender has received the ball from the GK.
              Our club doesn't allow punting. We give up lots of goals.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Our club doesn't allow punting. We give up lots of goals.
                same here. Our new DOC forces our GK's to bowl the ball. We do punt every once in a while to catch the other team off guard. Usually after about 3 or 4 times of bowling it the other team presses hard, that's when we punt. It's pretty much a clubwide house rule here at WT_FC now

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  same here. Our new DOC forces our GK's to bowl the ball. We do punt every once in a while to catch the other team off guard. Usually after about 3 or 4 times of bowling it the other team presses hard, that's when we punt. It's pretty much a clubwide house rule here at WT_FC now
                  Seen a lot of WashT games this fall and haven't seen one GK bowl the ball yet. There are no "clubwide house rules" at WashT - except the bootball rule

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Ding dongs in charge
                    US Soccer is a real mess. Next up is coed through U14.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Our club doesn't allow punting. We give up lots of goals.
                      Our coach does not allow punting (U12 team). I'm not sure it's club rule, but it's definitely a rule with our coach. While we may give up an occasion goal because of it... who cares? We've played some teams where their only goals have come from punting the ball up the field to the striker who is waiting. How does that develop anyone but the keeper (for punting) and the striker? I will say it can get frustrating in those tight games when you are on the sidelines and you're thinking... just punt it... lol! But honestly, wouldn't have it any other way at this point. It's so obvious to see the difference in play now between a "work from the back team" and a "punt it up to Joey up top team". I am grateful for our coach in that sense.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Seen a lot of WashT games this fall and haven't seen one GK bowl the ball yet. There are no "clubwide house rules" at WashT - except the bootball rule
                        You might not see it from the burgundy teams. You and your DD should come watch the '02 or '03 boys reds for an example.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You might not see it from the burgundy teams. You and your DD should come watch the '02 or '03 boys reds for an example.
                          Seem 'em. Mid-packers at best. Would be even worse if they hadn't picked all the Pacific FC boys. Coach DW is horrible but he has to coach or his kid wouldn't make the team.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Our coach does not allow punting (U12 team). I'm not sure it's club rule, but it's definitely a rule with our coach. While we may give up an occasion goal because of it... who cares? We've played some teams where their only goals have come from punting the ball up the field to the striker who is waiting. How does that develop anyone but the keeper (for punting) and the striker? I will say it can get frustrating in those tight games when you are on the sidelines and you're thinking... just punt it... lol! But honestly, wouldn't have it any other way at this point. It's so obvious to see the difference in play now between a "work from the back team" and a "punt it up to Joey up top team". I am grateful for our coach in that sense.
                            I get it, but you do need to punt the ball on occasion. I've never seen a professional soccer game where the keeper didn't punt the ball a time or two. It keeps the attackers honest. However, I agree that rolling it out the majority of the time is much, much better for development and to teach the kids possession.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I get it, but you do need to punt the ball on occasion. I've never seen a professional soccer game where the keeper didn't punt the ball a time or two. It keeps the attackers honest. However, I agree that rolling it out the majority of the time is much, much better for development and to teach the kids possession.
                              It doesn't matter what the professionals do... my kids team is U12... The coach doesn't allow punting the ball. It just isn't done on our team. Trust me, as parents it was annoying as all heck when we would be in a tight game and the keepers would not punt -- (because they were told not to)... Especially when some of the other keepers we played against would get the ball and then punt it all the way down to to their striker in front of our net. It was definitely an advantage for them. Our coach didn't / doesn't care about that. He's more interested in developing the players.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                It doesn't matter what the professionals do... my kids team is U12... The coach doesn't allow punting the ball. It just isn't done on our team. Trust me, as parents it was annoying as all heck when we would be in a tight game and the keepers would not punt -- (because they were told not to)... Especially when some of the other keepers we played against would get the ball and then punt it all the way down to to their striker in front of our net. It was definitely an advantage for them. Our coach didn't / doesn't care about that. He's more interested in developing the players.
                                Until your top 1 or 2 players move on to a team that wins.

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