ECNL Finals

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Individual development not team resutls

Again, the Onyx folks base their assessment on one game. Looking at results over the past 4 months and a clear pattern shows. Overall wins and losses, results against the same teams played, head to head, ...... it all points to improvement by one team and disimprovement by the other. And one team has much better results during that time frame than the other. It's pretty clear that FC was better in ECNL than every one of the CU teams. There are a lot of ECNL clubs who got out of the gate sideways and who have not been able to right the ship. Other clubs have used ECNL to really bolster their girls programs and to provide significantly better resources because of it. FC appears to be on track to be the latter. CU, the former.

Since I don't remember a college coach offering one team all of his/her scholarships for a year we have to keep in mind that TEAM results are irrelevant.

What matters is the development of the INDIVIDUAL. Yes being on a better team with better coaching helps the player reach their physical and mental potential but this argument about FC vs CU is an ego trip with no destination. Oregon players have limited options regardless if they choose ECNL or the TA.


The comparison of the programs will should be based upon which players get what offers they weren't already on track to get and the value of those offers. I doubt we will be able to see huge results for either program or club in the first few years but there may be a few individual stories.

I know my DD's participation in ECNL gave her more choices and "increased" the value of her eventual selection.

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Since I don't remember a college coach offering one team all of his/her scholarships for a year we have to keep in mind that TEAM results are irrelevant.

What matters is the development of the INDIVIDUAL. Yes being on a better team with better coaching helps the player reach their physical and mental potential but this argument about FC vs CU is an ego trip with no destination. Oregon players have limited options regardless if they choose ECNL or the TA.


The comparison of the programs will should be based upon which players get what offers they weren't already on track to get and the value of those offers. I doubt we will be able to see huge results for either program or club in the first few years but there may be a few individual stories.

I know my DD's participation in ECNL gave her more choices and "increased" the value of her eventual selection.

Who cares about college offers? What is wrong with you? You spend you time fretting about college offers on a chat room for girls soccer?

Just let your kid do their own thing. They don't need you fussing around.

If you daughter is good, the college stuff will happen without your fussing.

If you don't have money set aside for college, that is what you should be worrying about.

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Why are you posting here?

Who cares about college offers? What is wrong with you? You spend you time fretting about college offers on a chat room for girls soccer?

Just let your kid do their own thing. They don't need you fussing around.

If you daughter is good, the college stuff will happen without your fussing.

If you don't have money set aside for college, that is what you should be worrying about.

This is not a Rec soccer blog. This is a place people come to talk about competitive soccer clubs, teams and players which means that the players are trying to get to the next level which is college.

The measure of their effort and progress is the offer they get. The money is rarely a full ride so the primary goal for a competitive player is to get an offer from a school of their choice. Selecting a coach and team that facilitates that development should be the primary consideration when make a club and or league choice.

As for fun, ALL of these ladies are competing at this level because they love competing. what separates the one that will be successful at the next level is how much they love the game and the competition.

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Who cares about college offers? What is wrong with you? You spend you time fretting about college offers on a chat room for girls soccer?

Just let your kid do their own thing. They don't need you fussing around.

If you daughter is good, the college stuff will happen without your fussing.

If you don't have money set aside for college, that is what you should be worrying about.

They are busy bodies. If parents are getting involved they are a busy body.

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I know my DD's participation in ECNL gave her more choices and "increased" the value of her eventual selection.

Total conjecture unless you have some factual basis.

For good players, ECNL will likely benefit them. For marginal players, it will show their weaknesses since they are playing better teams. Therefore, for the marginal player, ECNL might actually hurt a player.

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Total conjecture unless you have some factual basis.

For good players, ECNL will likely benefit them. For marginal players, it will show their weaknesses since they are playing better teams. Therefore, for the marginal player, ECNL might actually hurt a player.

Total conjecture unless you have some factual basis

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Total conjecture unless you have some factual basis

What is?

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Interesting theoretical question... Is it better to be a shining star of your local team in a regular league where you stand out as a superstar? Or better to play on a much better team where you are just one of the starters, don't stand out vs much tougher competition, but basically can hold your own most of the time? Is it different for forwards vs defenders? Which is better for individual development? Which is better for college recruitment?

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Interesting theoretical question... Is it better to be a shining star of your local team in a regular league where you stand out as a superstar? Or better to play on a much better team where you are just one of the starters, don't stand out vs much tougher competition, but basically can hold your own most of the time? Is it different for forwards vs defenders? Which is better for individual development? Which is better for college recruitment?

Well, I know that you don't want to get manhandled in a game in front of 50 coaches. And this happens to some players in ECNL.

Also, regardless of ECNL you don't want to have an off game in any showcase. Especially the first game since that leaves a lasting impression. Everybody has off games, you just don't want to have one at a showcase, especially early on in your recruiting. If you have one the fifth time a coach sees you, probably not that big of a deal.

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Well, I know that you don't want to get manhandled in a game in front of 50 coaches. And this happens to some players in ECNL.

Also, regardless of ECNL you don't want to have an off game in any showcase. Especially the first game since that leaves a lasting impression. Everybody has off games, you just don't want to have one at a showcase, especially early on in your recruiting. If you have one the fifth time a coach sees you, probably not that big of a deal.

I am surprised to see so many soccer development and college recruiting experts on this site. It is easy to see why Oregon is the center of the soccer universe.

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Interesting theoretical question... Is it better to be a shining star of your local team in a regular league where you stand out as a superstar? Or better to play on a much better team where you are just one of the starters, don't stand out vs much tougher competition, but basically can hold your own most of the time? Is it different for forwards vs defenders? Which is better for individual development? Which is better for college recruitment?

Big fish in small pond never gets noticed beyond the small pond. You have to jump into the big pond and hope you're good enough to get noticed when there are a lot of nicer looking fish swimming around with you.

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Well, I know that you don't want to get manhandled in a game in front of 50 coaches. And this happens to some players in ECNL.

Also, regardless of ECNL you don't want to have an off game in any showcase. Especially the first game since that leaves a lasting impression. Everybody has off games, you just don't want to have one at a showcase, especially early on in your recruiting. If you have one the fifth time a coach sees you, probably not that big of a deal.

So what if you never get "manhandled" in OYSA? Nobody is there recruiting you either. If you actually want to play in college, you might as well play rec if you're not going to do ECNL

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I am surprised to see so many soccer development and college recruiting experts on this site. It is easy to see why Oregon is the center of the soccer universe.

So very true.

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So what if you never get "manhandled" in OYSA? Nobody is there recruiting you either. If you actually want to play in college, you might as well play rec if you're not going to do ECNL

Apparently you've never heard of showcase tournaments. Lots of non ECNL girls have received offers without ever setting a foot on an ECNL pitch. And, hate to tell you this, lots of ECNL girls will go offerless. Yes, it's true. Trust me, there are some lousy players out there. I've seen them. A good player is a good player, regardless of the patch. And vice versa.

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I am surprised to see so many soccer development and college recruiting experts on this site. It is easy to see why Oregon is the center of the soccer universe.

How many coaches are you friends with? How many offers did your kids get? Thought so.