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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    THey don't have ARs in JV games?
    No usually duel refs ( 2 refs in center of each half)

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Ref should have stopped the game until he left. OSAA should step in.
      Yes that is what should happen in this case. Sounds like everyone will learn what not to do.

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        I think he was lying to the ref when he said he was on the roster. He was standing on the sideline watching the game, unless because he is the varsity coach it makes him automatically part of the JV roster. I clearly heard the ref ask him if he was part of the roster and he said yes, and then he turned to the JV coach and asked her and she said yes. I have a feeling he wasn't, so what kind of penalty would that bring? lying to the ref and then refusing to leave after the ref tosses you from the game.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          They had three refs there.
          If there were three refs, then why was he yelling at the center? It's the ARs job to call off sides. The center usually isn't in position to call it, unless it is blatantly obvious.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            If there were three refs, then why was he yelling at the center? It's the ARs job to call off sides. The center usually isn't in position to call it, unless it is blatantly obvious.
            Not sure that he was yelling at the center, I think he was yelling one of the AR's, it's the way he yelled, it was pretty bad. He yelled really loud and berated him pretty bad. Everyone, even in the games around that game stopped and watched.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I think he was lying to the ref when he said he was on the roster. He was standing on the sideline watching the game, unless because he is the varsity coach it makes him automatically part of the JV roster. I clearly heard the ref ask him if he was part of the roster and he said yes, and then he turned to the JV coach and asked her and she said yes. I have a feeling he wasn't, so what kind of penalty would that bring? lying to the ref and then refusing to leave after the ref tosses you from the game.
              This may not be the official roster which does not list varsity coach but he should be on JV roster as well.

              http://www.metroleague.org/rosters.php?teamID=101

              This coach does need to learn some self-control, like many coaches and parents.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                If there were three refs, then why was he yelling at the center? It's the ARs job to call off sides. The center usually isn't in position to call it, unless it is blatantly obvious.
                I didn't see the actual play, because I was watching another game, it probably was blatant. But he was still booted from the sideline and did not leave.

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                  Well, he is a lousy role model for those kids. It's one thing to disagree with a call, it's another to berate an official. He needs some perspective: it was an offsides call and it was during a JV game. Personally, I see no reason to yell as loud as people say he was yelling for any call in a JV game. The only reason I can see to get upset with a ref in a JV game would be if the game is getting dangerous and the ref isn't controlling it.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This may not be the official roster which does not list varsity coach but he should be on JV roster as well.

                    http://www.metroleague.org/rosters.php?teamID=101

                    This coach does need to learn some self-control, like many coaches and parents.
                    Apparently JV2 from looking at schedule. Do they have 3 refs now for all high school games?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Well, he is a lousy role model for those kids. It's one thing to disagree with a call, it's another to berate an official. He needs some perspective: it was an offsides call and it was during a JV game. Personally, I see no reason to yell as loud as people say he was yelling for any call in a JV game. The only reason I can see to get upset with a ref in a JV game would be if the game is getting dangerous and the ref isn't controlling it.
                      they're not there to be role models, it's HS. Wins are all that count.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Apparently JV2 from looking at schedule. Do they have 3 refs now for all high school games?

                        I guess are game was over also, so It could have been refs from our game. So I'm not sure how many refs were there for the Beaverton game. I was just assuming it was JV but it could have been JV2, which would even be worse if the coach was at a JV2 game yelling like that. I saw the ref that kicked him out when the ref was leaving and he was just shaking his head at the situation and was obviously upset at the Varsity coach for the way he was acting.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Apparently JV2 from looking at schedule. Do they have 3 refs now for all high school games?
                          The refs at the JV level are so bad that I am sure it is hard not to yell at them.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            they're not there to be role models, it's HS. Wins are all that count.
                            I've never been to a JV much less a JV2 game as my dd always has played varsity so I don't know what they are like and if winning is that important.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I've never been to a JV much less a JV2 game as my dd always has played varsity so I don't know what they are like and if winning is that important.
                              It is important to the team, the point is there will always be bad/controversial calls. Coaches and parents are examples and role models. Many parents and coaches need to learn control. I hear many parents yelling at the ref all the time. I guess your perspective changes when your kid refs, but also when you are embarrassed by your coach or fellow parents. There are ways to evaluate and complain about the ref after the game. During the game, the coach and parents need to show calm, control and respect. There may be a time to get a red card, but doesn't sound like this was the time.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                It is important to the team, the point is there will always be bad/controversial calls. Coaches and parents are examples and role models. Many parents and coaches need to learn control. I hear many parents yelling at the ref all the time. I guess your perspective changes when your kid refs, but also when you are embarrassed by your coach or fellow parents. There are ways to evaluate and complain about the ref after the game. During the game, the coach and parents need to show calm, control and respect. There may be a time to get a red card, but doesn't sound like this was the time.
                                I agree with everything except is you are saying that a parent should get a red card. I don't think a parent should ever get one. However that is easy advice I've been very tempted to get in a refs face when he allowed wild play and my kid got injured. I don't mind physical play, but not wild dangerous play.

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