ECNL rosters

[Unregistered]

In a professionally run club to qualify for financial assistance you have to meet guidelines based upon need. To verify that need you typically have to provide tax returns and current pay stubs. Even if there is not a written privacy policy for the club there is an implied privacy to the information contained therein and the officials of the club are limited to using that information for the purposes intended. Officials who share that information with persons outside the leadership/decision making process have violated that persons privacy.

So persons who share that information, in addition to being despicable gossips, run the risk of the club and themselves being sued for defamation, slander and disclosure of confidential information.

If your club does not have a written privacy policy...GET ONE and then make sure the people who have access to the information follow it. It's not only the "right thing to do" it will keep your club out of court and those Insurance premiums down!

Equally important WHO would want to be a member of an organization that was willing to share this type of information about members and encourage/allow it to be a topic of discussion on the sidelines?

It might not be good business to violate confidentiality, or the right thing to do, but I am unaware of any law in Oregon that you could sue over. Maybe if you gave out social security numbers

Medical information is different.

[Unregistered]

Privacy rights? Explain please the actual rights you are talking about.

They can't, they are just making things up.

[Unregistered]

It might not be good business to violate confidentiality, or the right thing to do, but I am unaware of any law in Oregon that you could sue over. Maybe if you gave out social security numbers

Medical information is different.

Submitting tax records and other financial information for obtaining any credit or financial benefit carries an implied and even regulatory level of confidentiality for the receiver. Just because you are not a bank, mortgage or finance company does not mean that you don't have a duty to protect those records.

Clubs/organizations who receive or take possession of this information for the purpose of providing credit or financial assistance "should" have a written privacy policy so that they have a defense against a suit should the people act as described above.

If you don't believe me try to publish or disseminate the financial info the parents provide and see what happens.

[Unregistered]

Submitting tax records and other financial information for obtaining any credit or financial benefit carries an implied and even regulatory level of confidentiality for the receiver. Just because you are not a bank, mortgage or finance company does not mean that you don't have a duty to protect those records.

Clubs/organizations who receive or take possession of this information for the purpose of providing credit or financial assistance "should" have a written privacy policy so that they have a defense against a suit should the people act as described above.

If you don't believe me try to publish or disseminate the financial info the parents provide and see what happens.

Who said anything about diseminating any financial records? You just keep making things up. Saying "these parents are on scholarship" is not against the law. Again, a club can put anyone on scholarship for any reason they choose.

[Unregistered]

Who said anything about diseminating any financial records? You just keep making things up. Saying "these parents are on scholarship" is not against the law. Again, a club can put anyone on scholarship for any reason they choose.

First lets agree that the term scholarship is misapplied here as we are not talking about school. Second, yes clubs can decided who they give assistance to for any reason. However I'm not aware of local clubs giving girl players help when their families have the resources. CU specifically said they would not do this at their ECNL presentation and to be granted financial help requires the submission of documentation.

I would grant you that at the rec level clubs don't go that far as the clubs have a better idea who has the means or not.

Are you saying that there are girl players whose parents obviously have the means getting help? If so which clubs are providing this help?

[Unregistered]

First lets agree that the term scholarship is misapplied here as we are not talking about school. Second, yes clubs can decided who they give assistance to for any reason. However I'm not aware of local clubs giving girl players help when their families have the resources. CU specifically said they would not do this at their ECNL presentation and to be granted financial help requires the submission of documentation.

I would grant you that at the rec level clubs don't go that far as the clubs have a better idea who has the means or not.

Are you saying that there are girl players whose parents obviously have the means getting help? If so which clubs are providing this help?

You base everything on CU. It's clear that you are involved with this club and that you were inolved with Thusc before that. Personally, a club can do what ever they want with fees.

[Unregistered]

You base everything on CU. It's clear that you are involved with this club and that you were inolved with Thusc before that. Personally, a club can do what ever they want with fees.

I'm not with CU or THUSC but I did attend their ECNL presentation where these very questions were asked and answered. I have also been at other clubs with the same policy regarding financial help.

You made a claim that a club was giving money to lure better players. Name them including the team/age or admit you made it up.

[Unregistered]

I'm not with CU or THUSC but I did attend their ECNL presentation where these very questions were asked and answered. I have also been at other clubs with the same policy regarding financial help.

You made a claim that a club was giving money to lure better players. Name them including the team/age or admit you made it up.

No I didn't. I said a club can give money for what ever reason they want. It's difficult to have a discussion with someone who can't even follow a conversation. You said they have to provide all sorts of financial documentation (and have been using Thusc and CU as examples, but NOOOOO, you're not affiliated with them) to obtain money. They don't. They can give scholarships based upon what ever criteria they want.

[Unregistered]

Submitting tax records and other financial information for obtaining any credit or financial benefit carries an implied and even regulatory level of confidentiality for the receiver. Just because you are not a bank, mortgage or finance company does not mean that you don't have a duty to protect those records.

Clubs/organizations who receive or take possession of this information for the purpose of providing credit or financial assistance "should" have a written privacy policy so that they have a defense against a suit should the people act as described above.

If you don't believe me try to publish or disseminate the financial info the parents provide and see what happens.

Ok, what are the specific laws? If I was the team registrar and told Joe that you only made $20000 per year, because I saw your scholarship application file, what recourse do you have against me?

[Unregistered]

First lets agree that the term scholarship is misapplied here as we are not talking about school. Second, yes clubs can decided who they give assistance to for any reason. However I'm not aware of local clubs giving girl players help when their families have the resources. CU specifically said they would not do this at their ECNL presentation and to be granted financial help requires the submission of documentation.

I would grant you that at the rec level clubs don't go that far as the clubs have a better idea who has the means or not.

Are you saying that there are girl players whose parents obviously have the means getting help? If so which clubs are providing this help?

I hope you are not suggesting CU said that they wouldn't give finanical assistance because I was at the CU meeting and they specifically said they would.

[Unregistered]

I hope you are not suggesting CU said that they wouldn't give finanical assistance because I was at the CU meeting and they specifically said they would.

Two claims have been made. The first is that there are clubs giving assistance to players UNRELATED to need. If so name the clubs. CU said they do have "need" based help.

The second claim is that clubs granting need based assistance can spew the documentation information given them to verify the need all over the place with out getting sued. To that I say go ahead and see what happens.

[Unregistered]

Define "need"......

[Unregistered]

Define "need"......

Apparently they can't.

[Unregistered]

Define "need"......

Each club has their own standard.

You have yet to name the club/team that you think is buying players!

I could accuse the Thorns of "Buying" an entire team since the travel budget alone will be $3,600?

[Unregistered]

Each club has their own standard.

You have yet to name the club/team that you think is buying players!

I could accuse the Thorns of "Buying" an entire team since the travel budget alone will be $3,600?

Well, best team money can buy. You sound jealous.