ECNL $10,000/yr vs Thorns Academy $500/yr

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We won't do until next year. Do we know what the costs really will be? Including parent travel.

We have done ECNL for several years. Some parents travel with team others do not. Some decide to purchase airlines tickets last minute, others plan ahead. Some rent SUV's others compact. Some stay at high end hotels, others at same hotel as team. Some eat at nice restaurants, others budget their meals. I think you get my point, it is next to impossible to estimate costs of parent travel. I know some that add on vacation time to away games. Some families playing here, go to Disneyland and Universal Studios.

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Yes. I think people who do not wish to or are not talented enough to play ECNL will choose to believe anything that they feel validates their position. Honestly, why should it matter to anyone if someone chooses ECNL and someone else doesn't? So what, who cares?

If the $10K number is accurate then the best players would do better to travel north, pay $650 for the league fees and pay their own travel. It is no where near $10K unless they choose to take the entire family to every game.

If you do that then you are paying $1300 less than if you played in Portland. However, add in gas and time driving back and forth then you will be paying more

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If you do that then you are paying $1300 less than if you played in Portland. However, add in gas and time driving back and forth then you will be paying more

Where are you getting your numbers? Driving back and forth for what? We drove up for games similar to those Portland teams that will drive up there. She attended practice the day before if it did not conflict with school. We did NOT pay anywhere near $10K or even $8K. Generally speaking each event would cost around $650 with airfare. There were 3 events. The out of state league games ran around $350-450 including airfare. Honestly, you don't get to hang out with the players that much so I attended very few out of area (not including Seattle) games. For us it was cheaper than local club and ODP.

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If you do that then you are paying $1300 less than if you played in Portland. However, add in gas and time driving back and forth then you will be paying more

No sense in responding to the guy who's concerned about cost. If it wasn't cost it would be something else he would complain about. He's just anti-ecnl, he probably invested alot of time on TA talking about how no club was going to get ECNL, and as soon as someone did, he doubled down on how much it costs. Fortunately his is only an opinion and doesn't have any effect on ECNL. He wishes it would, but it doesn't. He'll spend the next couple years infatuated with the wins and losses. He is just an over obsessed person that needs to get a life.

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Where are you getting your numbers? Driving back and forth for what? We drove up for games similar to those Portland teams that will drive up there. She attended practice the day before if it did not conflict with school. We did NOT pay anywhere near $10K or even $8K. Generally speaking each event would cost around $650 with airfare. There were 3 events. The out of state league games ran around $350-450 including airfare. Honestly, you don't get to hang out with the players that much so I attended very few out of area (not including Seattle) games. For us it was cheaper than local club and ODP.

I used your numbers! You said you paid $650 plus travel. Portland ECNL Pays $2000 plus travel. $2000 minus $650 = $1350. Maybe I am missing something, but we are traveling to 3 events and similar league schedule

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I used your numbers! You said you paid $650 plus travel. Portland ECNL Pays $2000 plus travel. $2000 minus $650 = $1350. Maybe I am missing something, but we are traveling to 3 events and similar league schedule

You didn't give a starting point and the thread name is ECNL $10,000 so I was operating from a $10K less the 1350 or $8,650. Perhaps I should have inquired what number you are starting with. All in all it is less than $5K

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i used your numbers! You said you paid $650 plus travel. Portland ecnl pays $2000 plus travel. $2000 minus $650 = $1350. Maybe i am missing something, but we are traveling to 3 events and similar league schedule

see post above. This guy is just mad because his dd is not good enough for ecnl.

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Nanny Nanny Boo BOO

see post above. This guy is just mad because his dd is not good enough for ecnl.

I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?

Wow, this entire name calling thing is awesome.

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i know you are but what am i?

Wow, this entire name calling thing is awesome.

a jealous ta troll.

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Nanny Nanny Boo BOO

a jealous ta troll.

I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?

Yep, name calling is great.

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see post above. This guy is just mad because his dd is not good enough for ecnl.

I guess I do not understand where you are coming from. When I said where are you getting your numbers from it was because I thought it was $10,000 (thread name) less $1,350. I am not mad about anything as my ECNL player was very happy playing out of Seattle with the caveat that ECNL was not available in PDX at the time. I am actually an ECNL supporter and I don't know if it is reading comprehension issue or the anger issue that seems to plague so many of the Talking Soccer bloggers that prevents people from understanding concepts.

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a jealous ta troll.

It's a CU mom. Affectionately known as Angry Poster.

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I guess I do not understand where you are coming from. When I said where are you getting your numbers from it was because I thought it was $10,000 (thread name) less $1,350. I am not mad about anything as my ECNL player was very happy playing out of Seattle with the caveat that ECNL was not available in PDX at the time. I am actually an ECNL supporter and I don't know if it is reading comprehension issue or the anger issue that seems to plague so many of the Talking Soccer bloggers that prevents people from understanding concepts.

Reading Comprehension and inability to collaborate are likely the cause.

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Da Math

You didn't give a starting point and the thread name is ECNL $10,000 so I was operating from a $10K less the 1350 or $8,650. Perhaps I should have inquired what number you are starting with. All in all it is less than $5K

As a discovery player you only pay a $650 Club fee but the SAME travel expenses so the gain/benefit of being a discovery player is that you save $1,350.

Buuuuuutt unless your DD practices full time or is a National Team quality talent she is not going to get/earn the same playing time as a full price member.

In "theory" it's a way to get exposure at the Showcases on the cheap but it will not be the same exposure as she would get if she was a full price member. In other words there is no free lunch.

And BTW if she is a National Team caliber player she doesn't need the exposure as much as she needs the competition in practice and league which is why those that can afford it play through U17 even though they have their offers.

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As a discovery player you only pay a $650 Club fee but the SAME travel expenses so the gain/benefit of being a discovery player is that you save $1,350.

Buuuuuutt unless your DD practices full time or is a National Team quality talent she is not going to get/earn the same playing time as a full price member.

In "theory" it's a way to get exposure at the Showcases on the cheap but it will not be the same exposure as she would get if she was a full price member. In other words there is no free lunch.

And BTW if she is a National Team caliber player she doesn't need the exposure as much as she needs the competition in practice and league which is why those that can afford it play through U17 even though they have their offers.

I agree with some of what you are saying. Some of it was not our experience... ie the not playing much part because of not practicing.

It all depends on the player. I don't think Seattle ECNL clubs are offering discovery positions to average or even average good players. When I threw the discovery option out there it was in response to local cost being $10k which is absurd. I threw it out there with the caveat that the player would need to be at the top of the group or it would not make sense.

Not practicing full time with the Seattle ECNL teams did not mean not playing. You are correct some players do not play at a certain level for exposure rather they do it because it is fun and they enjoy it. All of the discovery players we know U16 and above were already committed. It wasn't about that.