ECNL $10,000/yr vs Thorns Academy $500/yr

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Hey hero, you want a medal or a chest to pin it on?

Or for the typical TA lemming,

If BS was music you'd have your own brass band.

Or maybe,

Talks cheap, takes money to buy whiskey.


You get the idea. Or maybe you don't...

You don't need to worry about ECNL, you're too stupid to have a job.

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It's just too bad the Oregon ECNL clubs aren't organized and set up so that Oregon players can reap these benefits. No one said ECNL is bad. It's great. What everyone is saying is that Oregon ECNL is bad. Too bad the people will be paying for a product that returns about 50 cents on the dollar.

Just read below. That is not what people are saying.

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ECNL is poorly run in Oregon. Not only that, the teams are going to be marginal at best. It isn't going to be pretty.

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ECNL is poorly run in Oregon. Not only that, the teams are going to be marginal at best. It isn't going to be pretty.

But it will be a whole lot more beautiful than anything the Timbers have on offer... Now that is UGLY!

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ECNL is not well run in Oregon.

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The great Soccer Kreskin speaks!

Ecnl sales person pretty hot an bothered over the idea ecnl in this state is a joke.

Poor coaching

Really poor developental structure with putting more emphasis on trying to keep costs low vs what is best for player

Too large rosters so players don't even get to play

Too large rosters so players only get 50% of what they are paying for

Bad teams much like the ones already in ecnl who can't score any goals all season. Playing defense and touching the ball 5 times a game means little even if you are playing the wnt.

No point for exposure if the player isn't good enough or getting to play enough.

No point in overblown exposure when you can see the same coaches at big tournaments and they get kids who are better at those.

Just because SoCal blues has good players doesn't mean oregon ecnl has good players. Just because soca gets kids into college like they've always don't doesn't excuse the majority of ecnl kids not getting offers and more so from this state from the looks of it.

All of this at the cost of your kids college tuition. Sounds like a hell of a deal to me!

But by all means, take your advice from the parent who has no clue how this process works And only tries to correlate from points that have no relation to what it will be in this state.

The reason why they are trying so hard because they need your money and your kid to even having a prayer of this not being a disaster.

I love that you can see into the future and know what each team is going to accomplish over the coming season. If you are that good a judge of projecting talent and player growth you should scout for a major college program!

Do I know how good any one team is going to do over the course of the season? No. Do I know how the few teams that actually have more than 20 players are going to apportion playing time? No.

Do we know that the CU 14's are struggling? Yes. Do we know if they are going to get better as the season progresses? Yes. will that be enough to be competitive? No one knows for sure just like know one knows what the exact ticket prices are going to be for those 4 Airline trips they are going to take for ECNL.

If you took the time you waste here telling everybody your "opinion" you could actually accomplish something positive in your life..... but I digress!

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ECNL is poorly run in Oregon. Not only that, the teams are going to be marginal at best. It isn't going to be pretty.

Give it a couple years. These things don't just happen over night. Geez.

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Give it a couple years. These things don't just happen over night. Geez.

Too bad for the kids who have to live through these "first two years". Juniors or older will only see the negative of this experience, assuming your couple years is actually correct...

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Too bad for the kids who have to live through these "first two years". Juniors or older will only see the negative of this experience, assuming your couple years is actually correct...

What negatives do you speak of?

These threads are getting tiresome. You are obviously not having your dd playing ECNL, so why continue to post? Do you have an axe to grind? Are you hoping a couple of your dd's star teammates don't leave because they might read your posts on TS? All in a hope they can make one more run at one of the split state cups?

What team is your dd on? Let's spend the next few months analyzing any negatives of her playing with her current team, whether or not those negatives are real or imaginary.

How insecure are you?! If what your dd's is currently doing, is the best option for her great. For my dd the best option was clearly ECNL. We took into consideration the training fees, traveling costs, quality/quantity of training, the quality/quantity of matches. It was definitely the best option for her. We are not worried about college scholarships, if they come along, great. If not, no worries. Going back and playing in the OPL/OYSA split league just wasn't going to be challenging for her. For 'her'. Not me, not you or your dd.

It's the new reality, and it's going to be fine. With or without you and your dd.

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Too bad for the kids who have to live through these "first two years". Juniors or older will only see the negative of this experience, assuming your couple years is actually correct...

Hopefully after the first two years it will finally start to get traction. Patience is important in a lot of areas of life.

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Give it a couple years. These things don't just happen over night. Geez.

Thanks Captain Obvious! If you can't afford it or are afraid of losing for a couple years just don't do it. I sick of you repeatedly reminding everyone. It gets old.

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Too bad for the kids who have to live through these "first two years". Juniors or older will only see the negative of this experience, assuming your couple years is actually correct...

If the Timbers were actually doing something positive for youth soccer and supporting the ECNL efforts, then the first couple of years would be a lot smoother. But we all know the Timbers aren't really in this for the betterment of youth soccer...

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If the Ecnl clubs were actually doing something positive for youth soccer and supporting the Thorns Academy efforts, then the first couple of years would be a lot smoother. But we all know the ECNL clubs aren't really in this for the betterment of youth soccer...

It's a dog eat dog world.

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. If the Ecnl clubs were actually doing something positive for youth soccer and supporting the Thorns Academy efforts, then the first couple of years would be a lot smoother. But we all know the ECNL clubs aren't really in this for the betterment of youth soccer...

That's not fair to encl. they aren't all bad.

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What negatives do you speak of?

These threads are getting tiresome. You are obviously not having your dd playing ECNL, so why continue to post? Do you have an axe to grind? Are you hoping a couple of your dd's star teammates don't leave because they might read your posts on TS? All in a hope they can make one more run at one of the split state cups?

What team is your dd on? Let's spend the next few months analyzing any negatives of her playing with her current team, whether or not those negatives are real or imaginary.

How insecure are you?! If what your dd's is currently doing, is the best option for her great. For my dd the best option was clearly ECNL. We took into consideration the training fees, traveling costs, quality/quantity of training, the quality/quantity of matches. It was definitely the best option for her. We are not worried about college scholarships, if they come along, great. If not, no worries. Going back and playing in the OPL/OYSA split league just wasn't going to be challenging for her. For 'her'. Not me, not you or your dd.

It's the new reality, and it's going to be fine. With or without you and your dd.

Wow, we haven't met, but thank you for your insulting description of me…BTW you missed on all counts…I was merely reacting to the change in the timbre of the ECNL claims. First last spring it was going to be the greatest thing ever, then it was going to be the best way to guarantee D1 scholarships because it is the greatest league around, now "We know it will be tough for the first 2 or three years".

As adults we have all endured through periods like that and we know how to handle it, but the kids we are talking about (U15-18) have at most 4 years, so to blithely say "oh well, the first 2 or 3 years may be tough" is awfully callous.

See…it is possible to post, support a conversation, and not insult people. Maybe try it next time...